Pushkar - the alter ego - Page 2

Originally posted by: sanfan

Thank you...Pushkar...the dark horse...the one to watch out for...he is the guy who has never pulled any punches...say it as I see it...and now watch him go far for his love in unrestrained fashion😆 😆 if rumours are to be believed!! Love makes the world go around...

"Love that knows no reason, no boundaries, no distance...

It has a sole intention of bringing people together to a time called forever"

Originally posted by: Echoesofpassion

Your posts always leave me speechless👏

What an analysis! Even I didnt look at that last scene like that till now. Its so true tho! Pushkar not only was the voice of reason but also the voice of Shravan's alter ego. The one that makes him realize, the one that makes him question. We have not only seen this today but also in the past many times! Wow I never realized this till now. Amazing catch! And an amazing piece of writing on the cvs part! This show never fails to amaze me❤️

Originally posted by: docbenna

This is so wonderfully put up the Alter ego Pushkar so correct

As for Suman and how pct as her passion as viewers are yet to see how her passion became her profession 😛

Only question where's Nirmala hiding in all this it's as if she just vanished into thin air 😕 Ramnath's expression on berry slap 😆 is enough to bear with his nautanki he is actually making a mountain out a molehill I say because as a man he could have accepted that he was wrong eventually it would have been fine but now it's not just Shravan but Suman Tiwariji a lot of people's relationship with him he's purposefully destroying 🤢 😡

Originally posted by: redwine1

Hey Red Thank you for the response

Pushkar as the alter ego ... hmm interesting thot ... do u call him that coz... he makes him realize what shravan knows is right ... Most times he forces Shravan to face the person he has become ... the worst of himself ...

Exactly..that's what I mean by the alter ego...

I have quote again from my post above ...to make the same point while also giving the character Pushkar his specific roleplay...

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"But what was Pushkar really doing yesterday...He was playing the role of Shravan's alter ego yesterday. Who is an alter ego? Alter ego has been variously described but in all meanings one thing is implicit that the alter ego is a part of oneself, it's your second self, an intimate friend and a constant companion"

This interplay between Shravan and Pushkar mustn't be seen as one questioning another. Yes, it is so but it is also a questioning of the self. Of our own perceptions of events and perspectives that have been developed over years of conditioning our mind. To me the use of Pushkar in that scene was a sublime piece of writing...

It was as if Shravan was listening to his inner voice, (a voice that had been conditioned for unemotional responses yet could never give up warring when it concerned Sumo)"

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So, Red...that's implicit in the meaning of alter ago...its your other self..that gives you as you call it a rude awakening. Alter ego is sometimes variously described as also a friend and companion who speaks in a voice that is different from your own. Actually, I wanted to point out that in this case very beautifully both had merged. Yes...there was Pushkar doing that but It was not as if Shravan did not know it...His heart already knows this...so when Pushkar came in front of him, while the words were Pushkar's, the thots were that of Shravan's alter ego...his other self..which you beautifully descibe as the Mind v/s Heart battle...

So Your prodding the other day had the right effect...I use the phrase in the same way...It is not to uplift Pushkar in the scene...it is to bring down Shravan or bring up, depending on how we see it...However, Pushkar has also been the voice of reason...so the use of him had a double effect...instead of a stupid monologue that a lot of writers resort to...and spoil a scene..this was fantastic becos if you see who else could have a mirror to Shrav in this situation. This is really Shrav questioning himself in the garb of Pushkar's words...not necessarily due to Pushkar saying those words...

One lie ... that Shravan was abandoned by his mother ... had to supported by another ..of her being happy with a NEW FAMILY ...

Now years later .. to keep that lie ... a series of lies are being spoken .. whats more heinous acts ... unconscionable acts are being performed ... just so that he can save his one LIE ...

Playing devils advocate to Ram ... what if he tells Shravan .. i hid the fact ... ur mother did not actually abandon u .. i made her .. coz i thot her influence was not good ... that would end the lies for him ...

But now its not just Mother in the fold ... its the love in the fold as well ... interesting times ahead for the Ram & Chachi jodi ...

Red... I am so glad you made this point...about the pack of lies to save one lie...When Nirmala tore the divorce papers...Ram knew that his lie of telling Shravan that she has gone with another family after marrying Ahuja just did not stand. Ram and Nirmala are still married as per the court of law (although as per law's provisions, Ram could have got a divorce after 7 years by filing the Habeous Corpus Act 😉 but our old lawyer's brain also went into a shell😆😆 anyways..kidding that's not the point..

My point since you raised the one above..what does one make of the actions of Nirmala...she knew that Ram knew that she was not getting married to anyone as her marriage without the divorce was null and void..so how does one see her act of walking out on her son? ( not her husband...that's her prerogative..she can choose not to be with a man that had so little trust in her) We have seen Sumo considering this a misunderstanding...it is all that it is?

Originally posted by: docbenna

Lovely posts Red but can you please explain Nirmala's character 😕 her actions as a mother simply cannot be digested as a wife she's right based on what was shown but as a mother I just cannot relate to her story that the writers have shown 🥱 is it the writers fault in conveying or is there more to be seen??
If she could be there for her boss children while she just blindly with

out a glance left her own child without even trying to get in touch with her pisses me more than Ramu and chechi antics 🥱

You always kept mentioning about two love stories that will play a part in Sumo and Shravan story which is the second one after Pushkar Preethi 😃

Rekha... my awesomeness🤗😊

Loved yesterday's episode and unfortunately, it was not because I can forget Macbeth and consider Macduff as hero, forget Hamlet and love Horatio, forget Michael Henchard and heap praises on Donald Farfrae. 😆😉 Ah! well...

Yesterday's episode was interesting for me, particularly, in the way it asked us to probe, question, interrogate, and reflect Truth. This show is fascinating in that four of its major characters are lawyers - Shrav, Push, Ram, and Nanu. And funnily, Sumo is associated with food... a life force, a basic necessity. Being lawyers all of them are asked to seek out truth and to comprehend the truth.

Yesterday, during Shrav and Pushku's interaction, being a lawyer meant completely opposite to being a friend. Yes, Push is both a friend and a lawyer... but, then he is merely a voice that only asked of Shrav to decode as to what constituted Truth. Pushkar turned out to be the conscience keeper of Shravan Malhotra, the voice he keeps on hearing when he has hurt her or misjudged her. Pushku is the manifestation of the dil vs dimaag debate that goes on in Shrav's head (Red and Rekha... your analysis is bang on).

A debate which was already raging in the mind of Shrav... his eye expressions and the fact that he was pacing in darkness (Namik's eyes, sorry, I digressed). His answer which seemed disappointing for most of the forum members is to look only for what is obvious. He did his duty, if he hadn't done someone else would have done so. As a lawyer, he followed the protocol. Truth was on the side of Berry (however much we dislike it😆) and he judiciously won the case for him. His opponent Mr. Chandan Sanyal was giving out leases on illegal property and he was made accountable for it.

This character trait of Shravan has been highlighted before as well, whether the time he took on a premeditated revenge on Sumo (She was wrong and so she should pay), or taking Urvashi for a joy ride (She was a selfish woman so I pay her in the same coin, an incident btw, most of us liked😆).

And yet, during the Urvashi episode, it was his father and again Pushku asking him to look beyond the obvious.

Its not that he has never looked beyond the obvious, case in point... Truth as once Shravan himself said to his alter-ego Pushkar in relation to Chachi incident that she did right from her point of view. It was he who understood the dichotomy of being Sumo and Suman, not Pushkar who has seen her grow as a person during these last ten years. It was he who went beyond the family politics to go and help Sumo during the Khosla incident. It was he who went ahead and gave a swing to Sumo not Pushku.❤️

Truth is both singular/absolute as well there are Truth as seen from multiple lenses.

Shrav's truth is absolute in one regard... in relation to his father. His father for all purposes hasn't failed him (read... hasn't left him or been indifferent to him (Red, thank you😃)) and also, he believes that his father is an apostle of truth. He is not a liar, so when he hears the accusatory tone of Sumo... he goes ballistic. And note, he takes the blame on himself. His father is not wrong though he might be. Also, when he said get lost to Sumo... he was still confused. He hadn't heard his father accepting to Sumo that he has done it purposefully.

But, then as Pushku, the small voice of his conscience reminds him that as a lawyer/son he has won, but, he has failed as friend. Was it Pushkar who was reminding him that beyond the obvious, the visible there are other truths or was it his own voice which asked him to feel the difference? Like you, Rekha and Red, my answer is he was already in despair, trying to justify his own actions to himself and he was failing miserably. The dialogue between him and Push... what does it matter whether I did it knowingly or unknowingly was Shrav debating between his mind and heart... knowingly or unknowingly didn't matter...What mattered is that she has lost her passion because of him. He couldn't justify his actions and he was waging a losing battle. Trying to see the Truth that he had won and to feel it... but, he failed completely. He lost because he failed her as a friend... and what's worse, he couldn't say "get lost" to that image of him being responsible for her loss. No wonder, he was called a loser by Berry.

Pushku's other dialogue to him... have you ever seen her cooking? And she only does it to get a positive feedback was so poignant. Shrav who had seen her cook numerous times as part of his deal to get her homework or just to be at her side (Push has seen Sumo as a professional, it is Shrav who has seen her love, her affection and passion during those childhood cooking sessions. He had first seen her cook her signature dish... Karela not Push) ... Feedback form which in earlier episodes brought a smile to his face because the form represented her presence, is now completely misunderstood or broken.

Push was no external character but, his inner voice asking him to revisit his actions... and he knew the answer already without Push trying to make it aware. No wonder as a man defeated, fallen into despair he was trying to validate his actions... but, all he could see was darkness. During the Khosla episode, Shravan had said, "Ki mujhe sasti cheez ka shuak nahin hain"... probably its time he realizes that all that glitter is not gold. Beyond the obvious, there are some truths worth fighting for. Sasti cheez does have some value...

Yesterday's episode had a wonderful parallel drawn between Sumo and Shravan. Sumo both in success and defeat was able to share her feelings with friends and family. Shravan couldn't even enjoy his success... defeat which has already started to make its presence felt shall be experienced in darkness and alone. Sumo's defeat was negated by the love and affection she got from her family and Shrav's success was belittled by none other than the six-footer himself, having to battle his own muddy thoughts... with no family to support him.

Sumo was only defeated by circumstances and the misreading of her situation by Shravan. And Nanu's advice to her was apt. That life can only enjoyed to its fullest when one faces grave circumstances. She will again rise

But, there was another dialogue by Nanu which did not refer to Sumo or to her situation. This was when he said that "only that person rise that fall". Sumo didn't fall, she was merely defeated. And as per by the law of probability, she can win again. But, there was one who had fallen and probably shall fall more. I guess we know who we are referring to...

And then only one option remains... to rise. It should be easier for him then, we do know how much he hates to choose...😉

Thank you Red and J for your wonderful insights. J, for your explanation of "get lost" and Red thank you so much for Pushkar's explanation. Love you two..🤗

Rekha, sorry for this long delay in responding to your post, the wifi connection loves to play hide and seek out here.

Lovely thoughts and brilliantly expressed🤗

Muah😳