Young Sumo, behavior not justified

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi

I felt very mismatch behavior of young Sumo, we saw sensitive young Sumo when she saw her mom's jewelry, rude Sumo turned very emotional...That's obvious too ...

BUT then how could be she was so mean when Shravan told him,his mom left him,that did not affect her at all...after many years now she is 'changed' and she says," Itani bhi badi bat nahi thi."😕


She still dose not realized her behavior towards Shravan...poor boy

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dear... I think you are mistaken
If you are talking about the scene wherein he comes and sumo is busy bullying a bunch of boys.. He never mentioned about his mom, he said "Sumo tumse baat karni hain"

Had he said that, she would be affected for sure! And if you are talking of some other scene, then sorry😛

But yes, I believe she has been shown insensitive towards him, but its the core of the young sumo... Much required for the present storyline to shape up!
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[QUOTE=Artist_Forever]Dear... I think you are mistaken
If you are talking about the scene wherein he comes and sumo is busy bullying a bunch of boys.. He never mentioned about his mom, he said "Sumo tumse baat karni hain"

Had he said that, she would be affected for sure! And if you are talking of some other scene, then sorry😛

But yes, I believe she has been shown insensitive towards him, but its the core of the young sumo... Much required for the present storyline to shape up!
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Hey,

They showed he told her ,his mother left him,she didn't care at all (shoed like she wanted to save her "cool" image)]
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Phibi!
I totally see where your coming from. A few days ago, I had made a similar post discussing Suman's behavior. For me, her behavior just can't be justified regardless of her age as people have said. Being an young adult does entail having enough common sense to clearly distinguish between right and wrong. And Suman clearly did have that ability--she just wished to ignore the consequences of her actions.

She knew how she humiliated Shravan. And how he felt. And Suman would know especially, because as a person who was so careful about her reputation, she would also be aware of how it would feel to be constantly rejected and humiliated in front of the entire school. We cannot blame "adolescence" for her mistakes. And neither can this be dismissed as foolishness or immaturity. It was purely based off of who SHE was at that time. That was her personality. Her own, conscious decision.

Her actions go beyond what can be regarded as immaturity. Even teenagers have an understanding of right and wrong. A person who clearly did and still does have some significance to you, regardless of how much you value your reputation, if he clearly is in need of your support, than as a friend, it is your responsibility to help him. And let's just say for a moment we forget about the fact that she didn't support him in a time where he needed her the most, the fact that she brought his personal matters in a public atmosphere, ridiculed his feelings towards such a sensitive topic, making him feel even more humiliated in front of the entire school is what makes her actions even more selfish.

How as a person can you let another individual feel so humiliated and disrespected, especially when people and yourself have made him such an outcast already.

This isn't a matter of bachpana, this is about the most basic and rudimentary rule of distinguishing right from wrong, which at the age of 18, should be a fairly easy task. It's not fair at all, not to the audience, not to their friendship, and especially not to Shravan who was so clearly affected by these events, NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY ARE. When you are affected so deeply by a person and his/her actions, time is simply not a factor. His pain is not any less than anyone else's and should not be dismissed as something of the past. It is still very much present. And not something he can just simply get over.

Dard dard hi hota hain.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Young Sumo absolutely knew his mom left. He told her, and she said, if she left, she left, what am I supposed to do. This after she had said loudly that she doesn't feel hearing another one of his complaining about his parents' fight.
Sumo definitely knows what happened, and that his mother indeed left. Because she's been friends with Pushkar all these years, goes to their house, etc. And the family is a rich well-known family. It's most likely known to everyone the wife left the family. So yeah, she would and should know that Shravan's mother indeed left that day and that was what he was so upset about.

Sumo was wrong then, but what really is the problem is her lack of true apology and acknowledgement of it to Shravan. You know there are stories of people who have been bullied in life getting Facebook messages from their bullies now that they've grown, up apologizing-- like really heartfelt apologies.

What does Sumo do? It's one thing if she doesn't want to write message to him and wants to do it face to face. But she writes a letter with a smiley face. Okay, that's fine too. But then she is aware clearly that he is upset. She saw him feigning ignorance of her, but then sees how much he clearly remembers everything when he came to her house.

(Here she also did something which shows how still childish she is a bit with this. She removed a chess piece. Maybe she did think if he lost he wouldn't be back since her grandfather would be happy with the win. But still, what she did was insert herself into what was between Shravan and her grandfather, and kind of even dishonor/sully the sportsmanship that existed between the two men.)

So she realizes when she clearly sees how aloof he is with her. She says sorry. He brushes it off, but she is too immature to realize the obvious. How is it not clear to anyone that he clearly is bothered by it, as can be seen by his coldness to her? So she hits back with her defense mechanism. And says the thing which probably speaks truth to the matter of how she views it. Sure she said it to cover herself up, but she clearly neither then nor now had grasped exactly how big it was. So big that she SEES right in front of her how he behaves with her. Still she says what she does.

A mature person would not have said what she did, but would have realized it still was an issue.

Then comes her quickness to lash out at him over the Mata ki Chowki incident. But okay, that can be passed over. Though that is the straw that broke the camel's back for him. It was after that he decided to do what he did.

So Shravan does what he does. Which was wrong. And she absolutely is right for being aloof and angry at him. But here's the thing. Even today in the Holi episode, when she settles everything and says 'hisab barabar'---a MATURE person would have acknowledged and apologized for her actions 10 years ago, and for slighting him and not taking into account his feelings at present. So even with her being angry and balancing accounts with him, even with her not forgetting and forgiving his actions--if she were truly to be done with a good and clean conscience, it should be with her acknowledging her wrong actions as well.

I guess it's Hisab Barabar for her because he hasn't apologized for his actions, so why should she really do so. If we go by that thought, yes, score is even. But she has no moral high ground over him for as long as she refuses to acknowledge and apologize. Yes, he did worse to her-- he plotted and planned it for specifically for that reaction (that too he does it at the age of 26-27 when HE should know better). And he needs to apologize. But that doesn't absolve her from her need to truly acknowledge and apologize either.

But I do think the way narrative sees it, it is of the opinion that since Sumo has changed, has been waiting for him all this time so she could apologize, that is her justification. And that Shravan is in the wrong (which is true), needs to apologize (which is true) and see her as she is today and realize what she has gone through (also true).

Everything the narrative is implying in terms of Shravan I absolutely agree with. But regarding Sumo, Nah! She does need to GIVE him that explanation of why she didn't contact him for 10 years, but rather was waiting for him. And she also needs to ACKNOWLEDGE that even if she had good intentions in mind and wanted to apologize, how she wanted to do it and how she went about it were faulty.
Edited by KhatamKahani - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree she wasnt that young to not know what is roght or wrong... She knew what is right and what is wrong but she didnt know to stand for the right... When.shravan told her his mother went somewhere she disnt realise that his mothrr left her... She must have know the depth of the incident latter... She was ready to apologize to him but it was too late.. May be her behaviour towards him wpuld have changed if he didnt.go to london... Also she took.him for granted and he let her do so.. Their relation came to a point where she kind of had complete power over him... She only realised him worth when he was no more around... If shravan wasnt so blinded by love and took a.stand against her bossy nature then he wouldnt have faced that public humiliation...
At present when she said sorry and he said it wasnt a.big deal she thought he was over it and.she casually said it.wasnt a.big deal.. Its clear that she dint mean.it..
Also I think.sumo dont have that.much strong feelings towards shravan as he.has... Whatever feelings.she has is mainly due.to her waiting for him and stalking him.. He knows.her.more than she knows him... We as audience knows how much hurt shravan is and how strong his feelings are for her is thats why we tend to have more liking towards shravan than suman... Shravan's entire personality change is.due.to sumam but her.change.is not due to him...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I completely agree with you dear. Suman's character leaves me cold. My theory is that she is the female equivalent of the Angry Young Man of Indian television.

If you check usually you will find characters like Maan from Geet, ASR from IPKKND, Vivian's character (sorry dont even remember the show name & hero's 😆) they are angry, egoistic, insult the FL repeatedly but yet someone does fall in love with them.

I suspect the CVs have thrown us a googly by reversing the gender & given us a less likeable heroine someone whom many may not root for but who will still find love. Shravan's tag line should be Teda hai par mera hai 😆😉

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