Don't understand reasoning behind Kabir's clash now - Page 5

Originally posted by: subbuappu

I guess here nobody is supporting Kabir rather people are lending their sympathies only to Dhruv that too some extent... and mostly everyone is sympathizing with Jhanvi for what she went through... I guess the scenes are little rushed to show Tashan between Jabir... in this whole mess the writers are missing small logics that can actually make people understand each one POV

I didn't like the way everyone is just blaming Jhanvi for their status and not looking into their own self.... agreed that they might not want to defame supposedly dead PK but could atleast take responsibility of their own actions

It is unfortunate for what happened to Dhruv but she did what she wanted. She just hates them for ruining her family and peace.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

I cannot whitewash every actions of Jhanvi . She is s grey FL. If i felt her actions wrong i will say that. I dont care what others think.

Didnt she broke Yabir . Didnt she broke Kabirs family (stepson and wife )

Wasnt Arush too a 5 year kid just lost his father . Why didnt she think whatever happened to me should not happen to another kid . If not kavyas ex in laws didnt came what would have happened to him.

Wasnt Kavya a widow who just lost her husband who was trying to built a new life for his son. (Lol i am a big shipper of Jhanbir and i have fought tooth and nail with yabir fans in this forum).

Didnt she used Dhruvs loves ,care and respect ,humiliated him infront of others and discarded him as a trash. He was kabirs brother.

Aarush has Kavya right? Whom did Pooja had? It is Kavya who came in between her. Yes she is grey. But Kabir is no saint. She is grey but he is not white. He is human.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

I cannot whitewash every actions of Jhanvi . She is s grey FL. If i felt her actions wrong i will say that. I dont care what others think.

Didnt she broke Yabir . Didnt she broke Kabirs family (stepson and wife )

Wasnt Arush too a 5 year kid just lost his father . Why didnt she think whatever happened to me should not happen to another kid . If not kavyas ex in laws didnt came what would have happened to him.

Wasnt Kavya a widow who just lost her husband who was trying to built a new life for his son. (Lol i am a big shipper of Jhanbir and i have fought tooth and nail with yabir fans in this forum).

Didnt she used Dhruvs loves ,care and respect ,humiliated him infront of others and discarded him as a trash. He was kabirs brother.

She wanted to cause pain to Sr. Mittals via Jr. Mittals by destructing their home just like hers was destroyed. She is just a human. If anyone really faced such situation then they wud understand. It is easy to say that she is not behaving rationally or she is not seeking justice rightfully. It happened when she was so young. She lived with that and grown up with that pain and need for avenge all those years.

10-15 years of pain and planning with 1 year of execution and hurt to family. They are crying this much.

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

But the post was not about Jahnvi v/s Kavya/Aarush. If they had shown scenes of Jahnvi suffering juxtaposed with Kavya/Aarush then it would have made sense.

The post maker was talking about Pooja vis a vis Senior Mittals. As regards Mittal family, Pooja's actions are right. Whatever she said about Mittals being guilty was right. If Kabir had come here to avenge Dhruv, then that's a different story. But Kabir was absolving his mother, grandpa and chaachi, who were clearly wrong.

Yeah Kabir didn't say he was avenging Dhruv.

Originally posted by: shruzzy

She didnt purposely broke kabir's family , kabir was ready to go with kavya to leave behind his family but she denied and it was janhvi/pooja who brought aarush grandparents also even pk used his friend so she used dhruv and never did she said too dhruv that she loved him back

i'm not whitewashing janhvi may be her way was wrong upto extent but that doesnt mean that she should be left alone to live in misery and held up for her revenge is wrong, what suffering are sr mittals having they are not even an inch of guilt in their behaviour and kabir is no saint he was ready to leave his family for kavya as he thinks his family was wrong putting blames (though they were wrong) on kavya but doesnt that mean they are worst in pooja's situation atleast they didnt killed anyone from kavya's family didnt snatch her shelter but in pooja's case it was worst still he is supporting them like they are innocents if he would be that saint then when commissioner was getting arrested he shouldnt have spoke for him and ok i understand its his family than it was even pooja's family too

Yeah she just did tit for tat. Honestly i don't like PK dying. Even when he fell i was hoping for him to be missing. But they killed him to make Kabir hero and Pooja villain. I wanted longer pain for PK. He was the next most interesting char after Pooja for me. The real battle was between them and must have been that way.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

I cannot whitewash every actions of Jhanvi . She is s grey FL. If i felt her actions wrong i will say that. I dont care what others think.

Didnt she broke Yabir . Didnt she broke Kabirs family (stepson and wife )

Wasnt Arush too a 5 year kid just lost his father . Why didnt she think whatever happened to me should not happen to another kid . If not kavyas ex in laws didnt came what would have happened to him.

Wasnt Kavya a widow who just lost her husband who was trying to built a new life for his son. (Lol i am a big shipper of Jhanbir and i have fought tooth and nail with yabir fans in this forum).

Didnt she used Dhruvs loves ,care and respect ,humiliated him infront of others and discarded him as a trash. He was kabirs brother.

They are her enemies and she is taking revenge on them. She didn't even kill anyone. She want the hurt for Senior Mittals. She doesn't necessarily desired pain for Juniors. But now that Kabir challenged her she will. It is also Kavya's tactlessness in dealing it. What she expected that they wud trust her? She shud have shown them even more concrete proofs.

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

I cannot whitewash every actions of Jhanvi . She is s grey FL. If i felt her actions wrong i will say that. I dont care what others think.

Didnt she broke Yabir . Didnt she broke Kabirs family (stepson and wife )

Wasnt Arush too a 5 year kid just lost his father . Why didnt she think whatever happened to me should not happen to another kid . If not kavyas ex in laws didnt came what would have happened to him.

Wasnt Kavya a widow who just lost her husband who was trying to built a new life for his son. (Lol i am a big shipper of Jhanbir and i have fought tooth and nail with yabir fans in this forum).

Didnt she used Dhruvs loves ,care and respect ,humiliated him infront of others and discarded him as a trash. He was kabirs brother.

Her goal wasn't Dhruv's pain but PK's. She needed to play his wife to achieve her aim. She didn't act romantic with him or consummate him. She always tried to stay away from him. You honestly are disregarding Pooja's pain. When she has so much pain in her life, you would expect her to focus on all these things when she only has revenge on Mittals in her mind.

Originally posted by: kala16

Each and every point I agree..

Instead of focusing on all these details, try to see the bigger picture.

Originally posted by: shruzzy

She didnt purposely broke kabir's family , kabir was ready to go with kavya to leave behind his family but she denied and it was janhvi/pooja who brought aarush grandparents also even pk used his friend so she used dhruv and never did she said too dhruv that she loved him back

i'm not whitewashing janhvi may be her way was wrong upto extent but that doesnt mean that she should be left alone to live in misery and held up for her revenge is wrong, what suffering are sr mittals having they are not even an inch of guilt in their behaviour and kabir is no saint he was ready to leave his family for kavya as he thinks his family was wrong putting blames (though they were wrong) on kavya but doesnt that mean they are worst in pooja's situation atleast they didnt killed anyone from kavya's family didnt snatch her shelter but in pooja's case it was worst still he is supporting them like they are innocents if he would be that saint then when commissioner was getting arrested he shouldnt have spoke for him and ok i understand its his family than it was even pooja's family too

Right. I see them fighting for their own families. Not siding with any of them. Seeing them as neutral. This post is about Kabir. His family has bigger sins.

Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest

I am not whitewashing Pooja either. I said in my initial post itself that her revenge was morally contentious according to each person's POV. If Kabir's basis for revenge was Kavya or Dhruv, it would have made sense. But he actually claimed that the senior Mittals were innocent and wanted to take revenge on Pooja solely for refusing to give his family shelter. When that is the equivalent of what his family did to Pooja. That makes him hypocritical and selfish- he's willing to ignore the sins of his family. He's taking revenge without any logic. Yet he's being portrayed as a an empathetic, white character and Pooja solely as a villain who is doing wrong. When both are right and wrong in their places.

Exactly. The show was trying to show Kabir as hero and Pooja a villain just like what happened with Maya. Star plus interference ruined it.