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ritzbitz786

@ritzbitz786

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Posted: 12 years ago

Ok, so before anyone jumps down my throat upon reading this title of this thread. I am saying before hand, calm down please.

Because I am NOT here to talk about how Viraj was glorified

I am NOT here to talk about how Sia shoulda been shown being independent and handling Viraj buss. without another man/lover

I am NOT here to show how or if a Viraj redemption track should have or should not have been shown

i am NOT here to talk bout how Viraj should have died

I am NOT here to talk about how Raghav/Sia were not focused on

I am NOT here to talk about how to leap was stupid, with no story or substance

I am NOT here to talk about how CV's messed everything upon beyond repair

and lastly I am NOT here to talk about how HC made the right decision...

Because right now, I'm talking about the characters, and taking the storyline from a "real" POV

That same real POV that members of the forum would often attack "Virajians" on rebutting to them "How can you support Viraj or think he is even worty of redemeption, in real life if a women was getting abused, if it was your family, you sister, your mom how would you feel.."

That same REAL life kicks in for me today when I saw Raghav die

Because in real life, a mother (Gayatri) losing her second son is heart breaking, Krish losing his chachu who was his father figure is hearbreaking

and Sia, losing her husband after she has been through so much, and that too on karwa chauth is heart breaking..

Today I felt like everything Sia went through, even though horrible, was temporary, in the sense that there was always "light" at the end of the tunnel...

Ex.) When she was with Viraj, at first the hope was he would change

When he wasn't changing, at least she could try and get away from him (in which she did succeed)

Even when her baby died, I know it was heartbreaking as being a mother is the most fulfilling thing in life, but she was young, she could logically get pregnant again, have more kids so there was that hope

But losing Raghav, death, is so permanent, sucha big loss, one which you cannot account for, no one can replace Raghav ever...Even if they show her being preg. with Raghavs baby and raising him and seeing in him Raghav (Just a scenario, not suggesting it or saying/thinking it will/should/could happen) her life partner, her humsafar is not there to grow old with her. That child, will one day grow up get married and have a family of his own...and all throughout Raghav will not be there..

So all I'm saying is, in the reel world and in the real world, your husband dying, on karwa chauth is one hard d**n blow. A permanent one, an irrepairable one.

And I'm sure some people will ask "well what diid you expect to happen.." once again, I'm NOT here for any of that. Just stating, Raghav dying was a really hard blow , sad, and if it happened in real life, and I was giving my condolences to a victim of Domestic abuse who moved on and got remarried and her second husband died, I wouldnt even have words to say.

And just my two cents: Today could have been the perfect last episode, leaving the show from being further butchered..Because if they showed:

Viraj, in trying to save Raghav, himself gets killed..

Bam..

We woulda had a redeemed Viraj who even his "Jhanvi" would remember fondly for saving her Raghav's life..

Viraj himself would have died a true, selfless lover, who gave up his life for Raghav and finally learned how to love selflessy, by knowing his "Jaan" is happy with Raghav

and Raghav/Sia could have moved on..

And that would be the perfect last episode

and we wouldnt have had to put up with the show anymore😆

Just my two cents.

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Soaps1

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Posted: 12 years ago

If they had cared for the right message to go out, Harshad would not have quit the show and Sriti won't be unhappy ... they never cared for the message and what they have shown in past 3 days is mockery of not just belief system of people but also God ... God saved evil and is ready to give him another chance but a good man is killed to give evil like v a 2nd chance? Utterly disgusting ... but like i said they never cared for the message so is useless

And no am not here to prove HC did right thing or wrong thing but to state the fact that the show never cared for the message we have been screaming it for months now, much much before HC even decided to quit this show

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vandana

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Posted: 12 years ago

So all I'm saying is, in the reel world and in the real world, your husband dying, on karwa chauth is one hard d**n blow. A permanent one, an irrepairable one.

wait till u see this very sia going back to v...forgiving him...forgetting everything...

raping this very message...the very base of humanity into million pieces...

thinking"oh he's a changed man...he did not kill raghav..he opened his shoes before entering the mandir...he has such a puppy face"

though... its a fact that raghav would've been alive had v not tricked sia...

but then who cares for anything as long as v remains good...

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ritzbitz786

@ritzbitz786

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Soaps1
If they had cared for the right message to go out, Harshad would not have quit the show and Sriti won't be unhappy ... they never cared for the message and what they have shown in past 3 days is mockery of not just belief system of people but also God ... God saved evil and is ready to give him another chance but a good man is killed to give evil like v a 2nd chance? Utterly disgusting ... but like i said they never cared for the message so is useless

And no am not here to prove HC did right thing or wrong thing but to state the fact that the show never cared for the message we have been screaming it for months now, much much before HC even decided to quit this show

For me, its not even about HC quitting the show. At all. I'm merely talking about the character of Raghav.

If HC wanted to quit, they could have just ended the show, with a good ending, showing good triumphing over evil.

Or they could have gotten another actor to portray Raghav, I mean the lead in Kuch tho log was replaced. It happens, wasn't something out of reach for them.

And as for mockery of belief system, I agree with you, but this is the utmost mockery of that belief system, and faith in God, the utmost, when Sia moves on, and things look better, oh..your husband died, Sorry...NO, GOD DOES NOT DO THAT.

But, I think this all goes back to the whole system of soap operas. Honestly. Shows should be made with a clear concise method, ok this is our storyline, these are our characters, this is what will happen til the end and we will knock it out in this "X" number of episodes (hoenstly, how Pak. dramas work), rather they are endless, luckily not as endless as American soaps which have being going on for 20-30 + years, but the storyline is not "pre-written" til the END, rather just the basics of it are, and the twists/turns come along as TRP's go high/low. Story changes are made last mint etc.

The whole script is not written from the beg. and it should be.

I think out of every soap I have ever watched, I haven't been happy with the story throughout, ever, any show.

So I think maybe if not get rid of the soap opera institution all together, they should now come out with shows, whose script is pre-written kinda like a movie, you have 3 hours to get the whole message through, in this case, like 50/100 episodes to get the whole message through and end it.

Hope Indian TV industry sees that soon.

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vandana

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Posted: 12 years ago

ritz...

i'm sure wen the show was conceived...the writers had a particular story in mind...which was a definite inspiration from the movie agnisakshi...

raghav entry...in sia's life...was based on the storyline...

wat the cvs did after that was i feel to satisfy the whims and fancies of certain ppl...

coz the rage raghav and raghavii created was beyond the imagination of everybody...

in general rugged leads like raghav r not well accepted in indian dramas...

plus it had the negative point of the female lead being a victim...

it was a gamble...which paid well...but to some it came as a threat...

so raghav and raghavii were killed very very slowly...

in the long run...the msg was lost...

the website of the channel clearly states it inspred from the movie agnisakshi...the msg being" there's hope for every victim out there...u just need to gather that courage to walk out of an abusive relationship...and look around...u need to realise ur inner strength"

in this case..it was raghav who was that catalyst...

jahnvi was always sia..it was just a matter of time before she recognised herself fully...

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Soaps1

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Posted: 12 years ago

I am sorry but in this show's case atleast i don't buy the TRP crap because TRP jumped when sia won her battle and viraj was put in jail ... only after he was shown out again and in control within a week that TRPs dipped again. And the leap promo where V was turned a baby and raghav sia were shown as parents that was the last nail.

And am not talking about HC exiting or not exiting either but how its not just now but the fact that they never bothered about the message, now is the worst though! I mean Viraj was threatening to kill Raghav in the car wasn't he, if he did not let go of sia? He still cares about himself only and considers only he has right over sia and just because he is changed now Sia should come back to him, he still did not care for her or what she wants. So if Raghav had not died he would still make their life hell and won't let them live in peace. And now that Raghav is dead and he suddenly feels guilty because he knows that Raghav is no more and SIa is free people are suppose to accept he is redeemed? And if Sia forgives him and goes back to him then i don't know what to say ... none of this is about TRPs, i am damn sure about it. Also i feel this was a fixed duration show and they are stretching it for no reason, they should have ended it on a happy note but they would do that only if they cared for the right message to go out.

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sam123_0

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Posted: 12 years ago

This show has made a joke of everything since the beginning!!!

Women!

A domestically abused victim!

A mother!

Hope!

Love!

Religion!

Rituals!

Lastly God!!!!!

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ritzbitz786

@ritzbitz786

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Posted: 12 years ago

I don't know about fixed duration. Reason being is because which soap is, ya know?The channel does want to create twists and turns, and does want it to go on forever and reap money from it, and ruin storylines and messages and get attacked by viewers and then change the storyline etc. to appease to one fan party, then to another, etc. its like a vicious cycle the TV industry has started. And I hate it and am fed up with it, because shows lose thier message, esp. this show. Other shows ok saans bahu, its all for entertainment, no message intended. This, there was a solid message.

I wish it was fixed duration! I mean yes, it was based off agnisakshi, but agnisakshi took a story that had a message and dished it out in 3 hours.

But one thing I can say for sure, after watching oh so many soaps with their twists and turns, even soaps1 you can say alot of the HC shows viewers were upset, there were petitions story lines were changed etc. and not just HC shows, any show!

Indian TV industry needs to do away with these, or at least introduce proper shows to TV.

The kind that are pre-scripted,pre-written and most imp. pre-taped, recorded and edited!

So no matter how the viewers feel about it, its already pre- finished.

When we go to a movie theatre and we hate the movie, we know we can't cause a stir, email the CV's the channel asking for a story change. Because its pre-recorded.

And shows with a message like DSDDSB, should not be made into soap operas or on going for infinite episdoes, or even be shot everyday, cuncurrently while being on air.

No, they should be planned, executed, shot, recorded, edited, finsihed, then aired.

And honestly, Not only is that better for viewers, but for actors alike.

Because they spend 5 years portraying only 3 leads in 3 shows, they aren't able to showcase their acting skills.

But if there were fixed duration, pre-recorded shows, withint a year they could do at least 10-15 shows, and have excelled at their acting and been more diverse.

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athenasarwale

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ritzbitz786

Or they could have gotten another actor to portray Raghav, I mean the lead in Kuch tho log was replaced. It happens, wasn't something out of reach for them.
But, I think this all goes back to the whole system of soap operas. Honestly. Shows should be made with a clear concise method, ok this is our storyline, these are our characters, this is what will happen til the end and we will knock it out in this "X" number of episodes (hoenstly, how Pak. dramas work), rather they are endless, luckily not as endless as American soaps which have being going on for 20-30 + years, but the storyline is not "pre-written" til the END, rather just the basics of it are, and the twists/turns come along as TRP's go high/low. Story changes are made last mint etc.

The whole script is not written from the beg. and it should be.

I think out of every soap I have ever watched, I haven't been happy with the story throughout, ever, any show.

So I think maybe if not get rid of the soap opera institution all together, they should now come out with shows, whose script is pre-written kinda like a movie, you have 3 hours to get the whole message through, in this case, like 50/100 episodes to get the whole message through and end it.

Hope Indian TV industry sees that soon.

I agree wid you reg the story analysis ...they should be written from the beginning not change it later ..that too when they are dealing wid main aspects of the show ...as part of discussion considering only characters of the show ...DSDB was always abt DV victim and abuser ,she was shown married and having abused married life ..so when they started off wid it ..they need to have focus on how she turned out to be DV victim,what is thought process of abuser ,what made him do this stuff,as a wife how she tries to change it ,if she can't how she became independent and fighted against it ,if they wouldn't have thought of saviour in her life ..they would have very well concentrated on these ...so while they thought to project story this way then what's the need of creating a character which even after its closure ,actually not making any difference to the story ? 😕 i am sure wid out raghav they could have shown same things they are showing now wid few changes..if they want DV victim to go back to a changed abuser then what's the use of saviour in the first place? i absolutely find it unnecessary 🥱 leaving abt how actor portrayed it and lived it, if talking abt only characters as u said, then yes have always said and saying now Story was always abt viraj and jhanvi ...cv's have messed it bringing in characters who are not related to main plot so as a whole agree wid this point ,they need to have a complete script and should be sure of it before starting the project ...