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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: chandnixxx



It's a simple case of too many chefs spoiling the broth.

As far as i know Anshuman Sinha, Anil Nagpal & Dheeraj Sarna, all four writers are currently writing for the show.

Since they are writng as a team , and more importantly since its a team of MALE writers there is always that danger that if they don't keep themselves on a tight leash, we'll either have episodes that look like they have been written by a five year old, or make Jhanvi look like a joke. 🤢

@ Vandy
I don't think questioning Shriti Jha is going to get us anywhere sweets. They are ' actors ' and they are there to do their job, that is IT. There is only so much they can do. 😔



@Bold: That really does seem to be the case.

I'm not at all liking how the CVs are dealing with the show at the moment. But like it has already been mentioned, it's the TRP fever. Whatever brings in more TRPs will be the path they choose to go down, which when it comes down to the idea of delivering a message to the viewers, would not actually serve that purpose. Entertainment? Sure, it might be that. But actually informative, inspirational, motivating? That it might not be. =/

PS: Side Questions - Someone mentioned they changed the writers. Were all of them changed, or just a few shuffled around? Plus, was there a woman in the previous set?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ chandni...
i know...but atleast she can give her opinion
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice post Vandy!!👍🏼 That guy NEVER DESERVES sympathy.. chahe woh kisi bhi bhayanak bimaari ka patient kyon na ho

God forbid that girl!!! How can she even think of him after what all he done..

The next thing Cvs will show is Sia saying, " Viraj.. aapne mere gharwaalon ko maardaala, mujhe torture kiya.. sab kuch kia.. but sab aapki bimaari ki vajay se hai.. I'll forgive u and We'll live together ever after.. "😕

Go sia.. get back to the hell!!

If she does it, I'm gonna quit the show!!😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The "Viraj" character is beyond redemption in real life. But as a character Viraj has the greatest potential in this show.

Jahnavi remembers almost nothing of Viraj's affection for her. The only memories she has of Viraj are the horrific things he did to her. So, sympathy for Viraj is out of question.

Still, I would like to believe that Viraj is NOT a Prem Chopra. He does not need a "goody goody hero" to counter him.

I don't understand why the character of Raghav was brought into the story, especially at this early stage.

Viraj is a negative character, that goes without saying. But Raghav too is not perfect. He has his "slave" whom he treats badly. He too is prone to violence, and may very well cause physical harm (inadvertently), as in the scene where Jahnavi passes the wrong tool to him when he is under the car and can't see her.

Viraj plans his tortures, Raghav too is seething with anger all the time and, in my opinion, not the safest guy to marry. Raghav has also displayed cowardliness, as in when he refused to take the repeated calls from Unniyal and sped off on his bike.

Please don't get me wrong. Viraj as a husband is non-negotiable, but as a fictional character is immensely rich in possibilities. The story writers should refrain from having Viraj commit near murderous acts, unless they want to portray a psychopath.

Raghav, again is not ideal husband material. He is unable to show affection, express his feelings, and is prone to violence and despotism. Also, he gets into trouble unnecessarily. All these characteristics will lead to too many ups and downs in a marriage.

Jahnavi is too weak, period.




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: criticaleyes

The "Viraj" character is beyond redemption in real life. But as a character Viraj has the greatest potential in this show.

Jahnavi remembers almost nothing of Viraj's affection for her. The only memories she has of Viraj are the horrific things he did to her. So, sympathy for Viraj is out of question.

Still, I would like to believe that Viraj is NOT a Prem Chopra. He does not need a "goody goody hero" to counter him.

I don't understand why the character of Raghav was brought into the story, especially at this early stage.

Viraj is a negative character, that goes without saying. But Raghav too is not perfect. He has his "slave" whom he treats badly. He too is prone to violence, and may very well cause physical harm (inadvertently), as in the scene where Jahnavi passes the wrong tool to him when he is under the car and can't see her.

Viraj plans his tortures, Raghav too is seething with anger all the time and, in my opinion, not the safest guy to marry. Raghav has also displayed cowardliness, as in when he refused to take the repeated calls from Unniyal and sped off on his bike.

Please don't get me wrong. Viraj as a husband is non-negotiable, but as a fictional character is immensely rich in possibilities. The story writers should refrain from having Viraj commit near murderous acts, unless they want to portray a psychopath.

Raghav, again is not ideal husband material. He is unable to show affection, express his feelings, and is prone to violence and despotism. Also, he gets into trouble unnecessarily. All these characteristics will lead to too many ups and downs in a marriage.

Jahnavi is too weak, period.




u feel viraj has the most potential as a character...i feel just the opposite...coz i find his action repitative...there is nothing new he offers me as a viewer...
thats the thing naa??? how can jahnvi remember any affection of viraj wen he never showed any...did he ever show any kind of affection for her..leave alone treating her like his wife...he always treated her like something that he possesed...he failed to recognise or treat her like a human being...
u really wanna know why raghav was brought in the story???
he was brought as a ray of hope for jahnvi...he was brought forward as someone who will be jahnvi's strength wen she faced viraj as sia...he was brought in as a silver lining in the dark clouds of millions who r abused day and night...he was that one light at the end of the dark tunnel which made ppl feel that yes...wat if they r married...wat if they r moving out of an abusive relationship...breaking free ...hoping for a new life...there is one raghav out there...who will hold ur hands...who will lead u to a better life...a life full of love and affection...and respect...a life which will never ever remind u of ur dark past!...
i guess by slave u meant sunder...who is his friend😆😆if u feel raghav treats him badly...then i feel u really need to know wat frendship is all abt😆😆
raghav being prone to physical violence??😲😲 atleast he knew that watever he was doing will not cause any harm...to anybody...
darling...raghav is a no nonsense person...he did not display cowardlines wen he did not recieve that call...he had told viraj clearly that he did not know who jahnvi was...and viraj misbehaved with him...so wat do u expect him to do? recieve the call again..and tolerate viraj's nonsense???
@ bold
and wat exactly is ideal husband material????
for a girl a person who respects her as a human being...treats her well is a good husband...
one doesn't need to be showered with gifts and roses to be felt loved...
if u feel raghav is unable to show affection then u need to rewatch his scenes...he is the most affectionate character i've seen...if he can connect with a child...he can connect with anyone...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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what was shown yesterday that Jhanvi to caress viraj forehead is utter nonsense. how can woman change her feeling immediately after she is shown run away and cried like hell and in few minutes she starts sympathysing with viraj. This is just utter nonsense and killing of Jhanvi's character too.
As woman i will never return back to such abusive fellow whom i will not even call human being forget husband even if the person is on dying bed asking for forgiveness.
Viraj should never be forgiven no matter what. His sins can't be forgiven as lifes of so many whom he killed can come back. Rather he should be left to repent and die alone.
CVs are posing wrong message to all woman and i take it as insult of womanhood where they are trying to show no matter what your husband does with you , you should remain slave and treat him as your master and continue living. CVs are just motiviating such sick mens in society and increasing their confidence to abuse , torture, kill as still you will have your wife with you because she is married. Height of STUPIDITY and NONSENSE shown.
even the original movies like agnisakhshi and daraar did not supported such abusers and in end they got penalised with loosing their life and supported Woman's freedom.
I guess the CV himself must be big abuser that is why he is supporting Viraj's deeds blindly and showing as if nothing worst has happened and taking all casually.
Character of Sia or Jhanvi is ruined.
One more thing lot of people who support viraj are anti woman freedom that sia is married and she should not be with other man. Let me tell them that as woman she has every right to move on, get herself free from torture and lead her own life with any one who deserves her and give respect to her and treat as Woman not animal. She can't spend the whole life alone and be symbol of abuse and waste her future by simply being helpless and crying everytime.
if Jhanvi is shown sympathysing with Viraj then she is not less than animal who after getting beaten by their masters still stays with them.
IS CV TRYING TO SHOW THIS?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -vandy-

"u feel viraj has the most potential as a character...i feel just the opposite...coz i find his action repitative...there is nothing new he offers me as a viewer.. ."

basically agree with you. I meant that Viraj's life story, his mental make up etc. and the resultant actions have a great potential for any story writer. The repetitiveness of Viraj's psychotic acts in the story is a failure on the part of the story writers.. (my opinion)

thats the thing naa??? how can jahnvi remember any affection of viraj wen he never showed any...did he ever show any kind of affection for her..leave alone treating her like his wife...he always treated her like something that he possesed...he failed to recognise or treat her like a human being...

true. Which is why there's no danger of anyone (Jahnavi included) feeling any sympathy for Viraj. To be fair, Viraj did show some tenderness towards Jahnavi, but that was totally overshadowed by Viraj's abuses.
u really wanna know why raghav was brought in the story???

i think it's obvious to everyone why raghav was brought into the story. But, Raghav being too prominent a character in this show can't merely remain a support figure for Jahnavi. He has too much baggage and Jahnavi's too frail (emotionally) to be able to deal with not 1 but 2 men with complicated pasts. As viewers we are left withh too many unanswered questions, at least at this stage.

he was brought as a ray of hope for jahnvi...he was brought forward as someone who will be jahnvi's strength wen she faced viraj as sia...he was brought in as a silver lining in the dark clouds of millions who r abused day and night...he was that one light at the end of the dark tunnel which made ppl feel that yes...wat if they r married...wat if they r moving out of an abusive relationship...breaking free ...hoping for a new life...there is one raghav out there...who will hold ur hands...who will lead u to a better life...a life full of love and affection...and respect...a life which will never ever remind u of ur dark past!...
i guess by slave u meant sunder...who is his friend😆😆if u feel raghav treats him badly...then i feel u really need to know wat frendship is all abt😆😆
Raghav and Sundar are by no stretch of imagination a jodi of equals. Sundar shares the same relationship with Raghav that Unniyal shares with Viraj. My idea of a friendship is not where one is a chamcha of the other.
raghav being prone to physical violence??😲😲 atleast he knew that watever he was doing will not cause any harm...to anybody...

How can you be so sure. There is a distinct possibility that Raghav will accidentally hit his friend Sundar one of these days.
darling...raghav is a no nonsense person...he did not display cowardlines wen he did not recieve that call...he had told viraj clearly that he did not know who jahnvi was...and viraj misbehaved with him...so wat do u expect him to do? recieve the call again..and tolerate viraj's nonsense???
@ bold

If I were Raghav I would have answered the phone and yelled at that person for calling repeatedly. But, that's me. Also, did Raghav save that number. How did he know it was the same number?

and wat exactly is ideal husband material????

Raghav is considered to be "ideal" lover/husband by a large number of members posting on this forum. I just feel that Raghav is also a moody person, not wanting to (able to) show his feelings, and in the long run it will be difficult to communicate with such a man.


for a girl a person who respects her as a human being...treats her well is a good husband...
one doesn't need to be showered with gifts and roses to be felt loved...

Viraj showering Jahnavi with gifts is also an aberration in his character, since he is incapable of showing his love.


if u feel raghav is unable to show affection then u need to rewatch his scenes...he is the most affectionate character i've seen...if he can connect with a child...he can connect with anyone...

Even with Krish I don't think Raghav emoted much. It was Krish who emoted more.

Anyway, all said and done, Raghav would be preferable as a life partner compared to Viraj, if that's what you want spelled out.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: criticaleyes


basically agree with you. I meant that Viraj's life story, his mental make up etc. and the resultant actions have a great potential for any story writer. The repetitiveness of Viraj's psychotic acts in the story is a failure on the part of the story writers.. (my opinion)
watever be the reason..it is repitative and boring😆😆

true. Which is why there's no danger of anyone (Jahnavi included) feeling any sympathy for Viraj. To be fair, Viraj did show some tenderness towards Jahnavi, but that was totally overshadowed by Viraj's abuses.
jahnvi feeling sympathic towards viraj will kill her character completely...and thats where my major concern lies

i think it's obvious to everyone why raghav was brought into the story. But, Raghav being too prominent a character in this show can't merely remain a support figure for Jahnavi. He has too much baggage and Jahnavi's too frail (emotionally) to be able to deal with not 1 but 2 men with complicated pasts. As viewers we are left withh too many unanswered questions, at least at this stage.
raghav is that one character who does not have any baggage...raghav and sia will complete each other...its their painful past which will make them connect!

Raghav and Sundar are by no stretch of imagination a jodi of equals. Sundar shares the same relationship with Raghav that Unniyal shares with Viraj. My idea of a friendship is not where one is a chamcha of the other.
thats where u went wrong...given a choice unniyal will not think twice before disassociating himself from viraj(thats wat chamcha's do) and given a choice...sundar will not think twice before laying his life for raghav(thats wat i call frendship)

How can you be so sure. There is a distinct possibility that Raghav will accidentally hit his friend Sundar one of these days.
wanna bet? raghav will never ever do any such thing😛

If I were Raghav I would have answered the phone and yelled at that person for calling repeatedly. But, that's me. Also, did Raghav save that number. How did he know it was the same number?
wen i get a call which disturbs me...i don't need to save the number..the moment that number flashes...my brain recalls it...and as i said..raghav is a no nonsense person...he knew viraj will not talk properly...then y recieve the call and boil his own blood?

Raghav is considered to be "ideal" lover/husband by a large number of members posting on this forum. I just feel that Raghav is also a moody person, not wanting to (able to) show his feelings, and in the long run it will be difficult to communicate with such a man.
moody ppl make the best hubby's😉 believe me...and wen in a relationship...u do not need words to communicate...ur gestures are more than enough to show wat u feel for ur spouse...




Viraj showering Jahnavi with gifts is also an aberration in his character, since he is incapable of showing his love.
but wat will jahnvi do with materialistic things given by a person who has scarred her soul?



Even with Krish I don't think Raghav emoted much. It was Krish who emoted more.
😆😆..then y did krish not emote or show the same feelings with his mom or dadi? reason is..children understand the unspoken language of love...one touch...and they know how much the person loves u...krish gets the same feeling from raghav...😊


Anyway, all said and done, Raghav would be preferable as a life partner compared to Viraj, if that's what you want spelled out.
yes😃😃😃

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sambaza

viraj is the hero and he is negative! This makes this serial interesting to watch.. now adding more layers to viraj sounds damn exciting.

viraj is not the hero...he is the villain😊
now tell me if it sounds interesting?😆😆😆
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