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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sweetdollz



Right so a use of a personal anecdote gives members the right to to give lessons on the correct way to behave does it?

If you read the post clearly you will notice that these are the exact words used in the post. C has simply quoted the parts that she feels wer problamatic. It's there for me to see, it's there for us all to see.

Thankyou.
Getting personal against any member is against the rules of the forum. It's been mentioned by Gagan ( SkyLight ) too . 😊
Let's get back on topic here ... The creatives are walking on very dangerous grounds here. very dangerous grounds indeed.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: chandnixxx

Thankyou.
Getting personal against any member is against the rules of the forum. It's been mentioned by Gagan ( SkyLight ) too . 😊
Let's get back on topic here ... The creatives are walking on very dangerous grounds here. very dangerous grounds indeed.

From what's been highlighted, the poster didn't get personal. When a personal anecdote is brought up by Elysia herself to make a point, the poster is not wrong in countering that point. If that poster kept on with it, then yes it is getting personal. But from what that person wrote, it's simply replying to what Elysia herself brought up in an attempt to counter an argument. (And may I add, Elysia herself posed a question regarding that anecdote, even if it was rhetorical.)
Edited by likarsh - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
I think i might have seen that post made by Skylight Chandni.

I'm curious to know actually if the moderators of the forum find this post , clearly hinting at how a member should behave in their personal life a violation of the rules. . 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
And by the way, I realized this was misunderstood:

Anna herself brought in her sister and her equation. The reply you've quoted (however exaggerated) was replying to what Anna herself put forward as an example to counter an argument.

I didn't say the quote was exaggerated, I meant the reply, however exaggerated, was replying to what Anna...

And I'll bring it up again. Elysia also put forth a rhetorical question. Just because it was rhetorical doesn't mean that the poster is at fault for replying to it.
Edited by likarsh - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: SunShine_A


Not commenting on other things since elysia responded well but @bold
really? and if he then who is he to give punishment to anyone, who is he to decide what is right and what not? And what punishment one should get for doing any wrong thing
and punishments? what kind of pnishments? which would kill other


You've misunderstood me . I meant he doesn't go around punishing people on a daily basis because he enjoys it as a hobby. I meant that he only does it when someone does something wrong... and by something wrong I mean something he doesn't like. That's all. I understand that he has no right to punish anyone... even his own wife. I don't support that kind of thing because I don't think it improves anyone or makes them a better person. There are better ways to change people and their habits. That's all !
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Elysia

Aya, I think that the issue for most people is that in "trying to create sympathy for Viraj", the writers are stepping on dangerous ground. You see, there are men out there who've openly declared that they worship Viraj. They see him as a role model.
There's a lot at stake here than just annoying one group of viewers. The writers are dealing with a social issue -- domestic violence. And trying to create sympathy for a character such as Viraj who is the abuser, it'll present a very wrong and damaging message.



I am a fan RajVi because of the ACTORS not because of what Viraj puts Jhanvi through...
anyhow @bold...I feel that your right as some people are just not sane enough to see the
right from the wrong and the real from the reel. I think its time that Viraj either changes for
good or Sia takes a stand. They can't play the cat mouse game the whole time.
It's also distorting the whole message of the show

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Posted: 13 years ago

Good morning fellow members of humanity = )


Just my two cents (that may not even be worth a dime), but let's get into the Psychology of Sia/Jhanvi's behaviour towards Viraj. Humans, weird little odd creatures that we are, can either obtain a positive or negative response in consequence to an act or behaviour. Jhanvi suffered from extreme, inhumane domestic violence. Now, this occurrence could either compel her to respond in two different ways.

  1. Run the hell away, and hate on all forms of violence, violent traits, and men in general.

OR

2. Unconsciously, get attracted/pulled towards men who evoke or portray similar traits of
violence, possessiveness, and the obsessive need for control. This is the detrimental
effects of Psychology for you!


Now before the Jhansi ki rani's jump on me with their historical sword, swinging it at my direction, let me assure you that the second point is by no means claiming that Raghav is blah blah blah psycho. All I am saying is that, if you look at this in a psychological perspective, Jhanvi is an individual whom has followed the second path as opposed to the first. THIS, ladies and gentlemen is not her fault due to every person responds differently. She has associated aggressiveness, violence and possession as a form of portraying extreme love due to the 'so-called' affection Viraj used to rain upon her.

For her to feel sympathy, makes no sense to us humans but when analyzing her behaviour, it is palpable that the domestic violence has literally taken a root into her mind. Have you guys ever wondered why some women endure the violence? Why do they not get a sword and chop the bas***ds head off? Why do they go back to their former abusive partner? Why do they move on with an even more violent partner? WHY?

Because they are accustomed to the violence. Their mind has accepted it as part of a norm and hence instead of running over the London Bridge and hiding in a cave, they return back to hell and feel sympathy for the psychopath. Mind you, I am not pointing out the helpless women who are forced to stay due to their society, culture or children - but the ones who are free to take the next plane to Antarctica and staying the hell away from the creep!


In conclusion to my rants, I have split ends! = \ I need a hair cut damn it! Oh and did anyone notice that KB is looking sexier? Hmm maybe I should knock a few heads and get them all amnesic to see if that is the reason why the leads tend to look more ruffled and stubbled and nicer when losing their memory! 🤣🤣

P.S. Stubbled is not a word. I am aware. But I wonder ... is nicer a word? Sounds weird.


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Posted: 13 years ago
Viewbie note: The rules are in the process of being finalized, and should hopefully be out tomorrow. There will be no doubts as to what is allowed and what ain't.

Two things I'd like to note here:
  1. If you're going to bring personal anecdotes into the discussion as analogies to the serial, fine, but then expect it to be critiqued. Otherwise, don't bring it in. As the rules do and will state, personal attacks are not allowed, but then again, by the same token, don't create a situation whereby the analysis of the situation can get interpreted to be a personal attack, even if it wasn't intended that way.
  2. The rules will state this as well, but if you think somebody is violating either the rules, or the smooth functioning of the forum, use the REPORT button. But please do not take it upon yourself to tell her either to follow the rules, or what is or isn't allowed. Even now, there are rules there for anybody to read, so if you think they're being violated, report it, and we'll look into it.
I'm leaving this thread open for now, but please stick to the topic, and also, lets avoid dragging issues like Syria into this. 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
i do not think creatives would be so stupid to create sympathy for a character they themselves have shown to be so evil.And people's behaviour can change, but in case of Viraaj it is not his behaviour, violence and obsession is in his blood, as his father was also an abuser, so how can you change.
And considering people talking on Raghav and Viraaj differences or similarities, yes the only similar thing is that they r males, and the biggest difference in between them is Raghav is feels remorse for his mistakes and punishes or hurts himslef to get away of his pain, while Viraaj punishes and hurts others to get his own relief from his pain.

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