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Posted: 13 years ago
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awesome post n analysis!!👏!!!!!!!
i too feel the same! viraj wants to have a picture perfect wife he portrayed! jahnvi is indeed his creation!! i believe when viraj sees jahnvi as sia (who after being strong enough to face viraj) he would never recoganise...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khota_sikka_sri

Ana I like how you related VD to the concept of Machevelli. To tell the truth I don't think VD loves Jhanvi either. I haven't watched this show from the beginning, but what I did notice is that VD seems to want to possess Jhanvi. He wants to own her. He keeps calling himself her God, and that leads me to believe that you're right that he "created" her and therefore feels that he is God.

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even i haven't seen this show from begining so i dont know wheather i am right!! sorry if i went wrong, (since i havent seen viraj from begining i myt get wrong)
i feel viraj has an idea of a perfect husband and he believes husband is wife's only god and consideres him as god and as he is the god he created a wife out from jahnvi in his imagination
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sarah, Viraj carries that concept a bit too far. Like Ana said, he tried to create Jhanvi into the woman he wanted and didn't really like her for what she was. Most "perfect" husbands at least like the person for who they are.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yea!! true.. !!
i meant for him he considers himself perfect!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yeah that's true. He considers himself perfect. He considers himself to be Ram. And that's why he doesn't understand why Jhanvi left him. Because if he's Ram and Jhanvi is Sita, then Ram and Sita should be together.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khota_sikka_sri

Yeah that's true. He considers himself perfect. He considers himself to be Ram. And that's why he doesn't understand why Jhanvi left him. Because if he's Ram and Jhanvi is Sita, then Ram and Sita should be together.

yea!!
thats why he said her ram is coming!!
and i guess thats why he said he cant doubt her !!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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loved ur analysis ely...
would just like to add that even jahnvi never loved him...
she was just obligated towards him...
and viraj was responsible for this to a large extent!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Brilliant Analysis ! 👏
I like the comparison you made of Viraj to a Machiavellian figure. I actually didn't think of that until now. And you are right, Viraj tried to manipulate and mould Jhanvi into something that would suit his desires. He didn't want to see any flaws.
He thinks of himself as God and that's where his misconception lies too. Deep inside, power and authority is what he thirsts for and for him it is an extreme level. Above all humans, God is seen as the perfect one, hence he believes that he also belongs in that category and tries his best to fulfill the requirements. When I say requirements, I mean things such as power and authority, which Viraj sees as a must to be God.
As for Jhanvi, yeah she never loved him. She thought she did, or he manipulated her into believing so. But it was more of duty for her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As far as I can see the Viraj-Jhanvi relationship, it's very Pygmalion-Galatea to me...her life prior to him is of little importance except where he feels it interferes with her present, and this in a way is convenient for him -- by not taking into consideration what she was like before the wedding and moulding her into something she's not, he can fashion her into whatever he wants...and the relationship in truth is all about him, really, she doesn't have much of a place there except as an affirmation of his God complex and another person to hold power over. Let's not forget that till Priya revealed her real motives he viewed Jhanvi as easily replaceable if the girl was trianed to do her mannerisms and look like her. Priya manifests the same mannerisms as Jhanvi...enough to make him consider remarriage. He wants her to don Jhanvi's look, wear Jhanvi's clothes, adopt Jhanvi's quirks...but is that all that Jhanvi is? According to Viraj...well, yes. As long as she physically resembles Jhanvi and has the same personality type, he doesn't really care about Jhanvi ki dil until Priya's admission that she was after his money.

Jhanvi's love for him, on the other hand, was more of a way she chose to fool herself IMO. She wanted to believe that she loved him, and that her love for him would eventually make him a more normal person...until the moment she realised that doing so would result in her having to live out a nightmare all her life. Why should she love him? She barely knew him, he didn't love her as much as he loved what he was going to create from the ashes of her former personality, she had no freedom, she couldn't even so much as breathe without his permission.

Something about Viraj's lecture to the abused woman yesterday struck me. For him knowing Jhanvi isn't important...what was important was that Jhanvi should instinctively know his needs and attend to them ASAP, and that she should meet the expectations he has of her. The way the husband acts isn't important -- he has enough power and it is his right to use (or abuse) that power over the wife, who in this case is more a subject than an equal. You can see this in the way he treats Jhanvi and Priya -- note how he often says "if you love me, you'll do this". Whether he loves them or not is immaterial and should be taken at face value, no questions asked. And consider the kind of power he has! He's practically not at all used to being denied, no matter how ridiculous his request is...that much is evident by the fact that he is at a loss for words when Raghav defies him. That kind of power is heady, and one gets used to it far too easily.
Edited by BizzyLizzy - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: BizzyLizzy

As far as I can see the Viraj-Jhanvi relationship, it's very Pygmalion-Galatea to me...her life prior to him is of little importance except where he feels it interferes with her present, and this in a way is convenient for him -- by not taking into consideration what she was like before the wedding and moulding her into something she's not, he can fashion her into whatever he wants...and the relationship in truth is all about him, really, she doesn't have much of a place there except as an affirmation of his God complex and another person to hold power over. Let's not forget that till Priya revealed her real motives he viewed Jhanvi as easily replaceable if the girl was trianed to do her mannerisms and look like her. Priya manifests the same mannerisms as Jhanvi...enough to make him consider remarriage. He wants her to don Jhanvi's look, wear Jhanvi's clothes, adopt Jhanvi's quirks...but is that all that Jhanvi is? According to Viraj...well, yes. As long as she physically resembles Jhanvi and has the same personality type, he doesn't really care.


Something about Viraj's lecture to the abused woman yesterday struck me. For him knowing Jhanvi isn't important...what was important was that Jhanvi should instinctively know his needs and attend to them ASAP, and that she should meet the expectations he has of her. The way the husband acts isn't important -- he has enough power and it is his right to use (or abuse) that power over the wife, who in this case is more a subject than an equal. You can see this in the way he treats Jhanvi and Priya -- note how he often says "if you love me, you'll do this". Whether he loves them or not is immaterial and should be taken at face value, no questions asked. And consider the kind of power he has! He's practically not at all used to being denied, no matter how ridiculous his request is...that much is evident by the fact that he is at a loss for words when Raghav defies him. That kind of power is heady, and one gets used to it far too easily.

Well said. Their relationship is indeed a more twisted and darker version of Pygmalion. I'd mentioned this in another post. [For those who aren't familiar with the Pygmalion myth, he was a man who carved a woman out of ivory and fell in love with his own made statue.] It can be transferred to Viraj-Jhanvi in the symbolic sense -- that Viraj carved Jhanvi and he fell in love with his own creation. However, not because she was beautiful/perfect, but cuz he created her. That, of course, made her perfect in his eyes.
You made some excellent points on Priya. I observed the same. When he found traits in Priya that he'd liked in Jhanvi [the stuttering, the singing], he also saw her as a potential replacement -- given the right "training", as you put it. If he'd created one Jhanvi, then he could create another. However, Priya turned out to have "deceived" him and that broke the illusion for him.
I love what you wrote in the second paragraph. Word, Bizzy. In his eyes, a husband is a God and should be pleased/obeyed in every sense. Nothing he demands is beyond the realm of reason. Plus Viraj is incapable of loving anyone but himself. That's the essence of his character -- his selfishness, his desires, his wants, his likes/dislikes, him. There is an expectation that the world will naturally adjust to his demands/needs -- be it his wife, his mother, or some stranger who won't stop to show him the direction to Gurgaon.
Truly. That power is heady. We saw it when he renewed his vows to Jhanvi, carrying her on his back, and then pressed his palm to her forehead with the words "saubhagyavati bhava". The pleasure, the rush of power was evident.

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