JALANDHAR - The Revolution!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago

i have been following this show for quite a long time (like from Sati times)...though i find Mahadev'a lectures quite bore but love the action of the show 😛

Anyways coming to the POINT...the character i loved the most in the show was of JALANDHAR...if we study this guy in today's world then he fought for EQUALITY, DEMOCRACY and SOCIALISM...lets see how..

EQUALITY - there shud b no distinction b/w Gods and Damons...demons shud also have the full rights to live on Earth as well as Heaven

DEMOCRACY - the TRIDEVS (Bhahma, Vishnu, Mahesh) preach BHAKTI and Religion but Jalandhar preached that everyone is not BOUND to follow them or worship them...why shud ppl consider them superiors?

SOCIALISM - this is China policy...no difference b/w rich and poor...everyone shud have MONEY...not that devtas enjoying all luxuries and ppl on earth dieing for food...he stole the money from devtas for that

I think Jalandhar was a GREAT person with great thinking and it was WRONG to kill him for NO REASON!!!...why? just bcoz he went against the SO CALLED RULES of the Tridevs which they have set for everryone to follow???

Jalandhar was the FIRST one to REVOLT and this is called REVOLUTION which he wanted to bring in the world 👏

PS: neva mind if it didnt made sense...no offence 😛

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Kavyyaa

@Kavyyaa

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

What has happened with Jalandhar is there was no justification of killing him in the end. He was made to shine and shine and in the end the God's could have punished him and not kill him at all.

We had problems with this storyline because it deviated from what we know of Jalandhar that way we could have got an outright villain whose killing was justified even at the cost of cheating Vrinda of her chastity. The story was supposed to be why Vrinda became Tulsi which was never shown and not Jalandhar being the wronged hero.

But all in all the track was used only to get some eyeballs which it did but did not serve the purpose of why it was being told.

Tridevs are not meant to be challenged and ruled. They are the ultimate and they are the sanchalaks of the world there is no dispute about that and should not be unless if they are ruling for evil purpose.

When Vishnu will come as Ram it is not for selfish needs but for good and to kill evil Ravan and even end up being separated from his wife and go through pain.

Same is with Mahadev if he is staying separated from his wife and going though pain is not for selfish needs but mostly for jagat kalyan.

If only the so called boring preachings of Shiv is given good ear and understood we will become much better humans than what we are and not go through so much devastation we see now all around us.

This show is not just entertainment which it does along with good education of life. If u put all the shows together on tv and compare it to this show none of them can match the class and and quality of Mahadev on tv today.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 12 years ago

SOCIALISM - this is China policy...no difference b/w rich and poor...everyone shud have MONEY...not that devtas enjoying all luxuries and ppl on earth dieing for food...he stole the money from devtas for that

China's current policy is pretty thinly disguised legalized state slavery. Google Apple & Foxconn - the latter has made iPads & iPhones using labor practices that would be outlawed in most other countries. What Jalandhar did was justified, but akin to one country forcing the other to pay a huge indemnity as compensation for either services or damages.

But that story was distorted. In the Samudra manthan, it was the asuras who voluntarily weren't interested in anything but the amrit, and that too, Vishnu cheated them of it. What they showed in this serial - Bali assuring Vishnu that the asuras would not claim any of the other things got in the manthan was pure hogwash. Neither did Vishnu punish the asuras for 'jumping the line' - he successfully (as Mohini) managed to ensure that all the amrit went to the devas, and beheaded Rahu for being the only asura to figure him out.

Jalandhar didn't believe in equality in this serial - he believed in the superiority of the asuras over the devas. Otherwise, his crowning as trilok adipati and his speech after that should have been one of reconciliation b/w Devas & Asuras, not one haranguing Devas for what they had done in the past.

His open refusal to respect the tridevs was his right, and Narada was unjustifiably in his face in singing the tridev's praises. However, he went out of his way to insult those who did respect Mahadev, which included many asuras as well, and that was certainly not needed. His problem was that having ousted Indra, he set his sights on all the tridevs. Had he just restricted his crusade to Vishnu, who of the 3 did discriminate against the asuras, he'd have been justified. Instead, he assumed that all 3 tridevs were equally partisan, even when his guru assured him that Mahadev actually was fair to the asuras. As a result, he needlessly made an enemy of Mahadev, which he exacerbated by going after Parvati (whether it was abducting her in this serial, or trying to in the original Shiva Purana)

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viper833

@viper833

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

China's current policy is pretty thinly disguised legalized state slavery. Google Apple & Foxconn - the latter has made iPads & iPhones using labor practices that would be outlawed in most other countries. What Jalandhar did was justified, but akin to one country forcing the other to pay a huge indemnity as compensation for either services or damages.

But that story was distorted. In the Samudra manthan, it was the asuras who voluntarily weren't interested in anything but the amrit, and that too, Vishnu cheated them of it. What they showed in this serial - Bali assuring Vishnu that the asuras would not claim any of the other things got in the manthan was pure hogwash. Neither did Vishnu punish the asuras for 'jumping the line' - he successfully (as Mohini) managed to ensure that all the amrit went to the devas, and beheaded Rahu for being the only asura to figure him out.

Jalandhar didn't believe in equality in this serial - he believed in the superiority of the asuras over the devas. Otherwise, his crowning as trilok adipati and his speech after that should have been one of reconciliation b/w Devas & Asuras, not one haranguing Devas for what they had done in the past.

His open refusal to respect the tridevs was his right, and Narada was unjustifiably in his face in singing the tridev's praises. However, he went out of his way to insult those who did respect Mahadev, which included many asuras as well, and that was certainly not needed. His problem was that having ousted Indra, he set his sights on all the tridevs. Had he just restricted his crusade to Vishnu, who of the 3 did discriminate against the asuras, he'd have been justified. Instead, he assumed that all 3 tridevs were equally partisan, even when his guru assured him that Mahadev actually was fair to the asuras. As a result, he needlessly made an enemy of Mahadev, which he exacerbated by going after Parvati (whether it was abducting her in this serial, or trying to in the original Shiva Purana)

Your Hatred for Lord Vishnu has no bounds. Btw in the Scripture Jaladhar was hated by the tridev;'s ( Lord Shiv hated him for what tried to due while lusting for Goddess Paravati.)

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Nandini

@NandiniRaizadaa

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Posted: 12 years ago

The truth is what they showed about Jalhandhar is a farce. The Jalandhar of the Puranas is very different from the one they showed and glorified

yes if DKDM Jalandhar was a reality yhen even I would have been impressed but they showed misleading facts and made a hero of a monster

in the real story there was no Matasaya Kanya who was murdered ,

Jalandhar was a normal Asur who lusted after Parvati

he was not a very guud husband either, he kept Vrinda in jail and even blinded her

So these are not attributes off which one should become a fan

yes I agree the farce they showed , one can become a fan of that farce

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kannimeetichuri

@kannimeetichuri

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada
The truth is what they showed about Jalhandhar is a farce. The Jalandhar of the Puranas is very different from the one they showed and glorified

yes if thiid DKDM Jalandhar was a reality yhen even I would have been impressed but they showed misleading facts and made a hero of a monster

in the real story there was no Matasaya Kanya who was murdered ,

Jalandhar was a normal Asur who lusted after Parvati

he was not a very guud husband either, he kept Vrinda in jail and even blinded her

So these are not attributes off which one should become a fan

yes I agree the farce they showed , one can become a fan of that farce

exactly. i totally agree. i remembered yesterday's dialog of mahadev where he said adhikansh vyakti jo anuyaii hai , buraai ki varshasv ko dekhkar buraai ke orr akarshit hojayenge.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada
he was not a very guud husband either, he kept Vrinda in jail and even blinded her

I just read the original Shiva Purana account here, and found nothing that said that this was what he did. Where exactly did you read that?

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sucheta

@kaatayani

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Posted: 12 years ago

Innocent question- did a "Real" Jalandhar even existed??

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Nandini

@NandiniRaizadaa

Trailblazer

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

I just read the original Shiva Purana account here, and found nothing that said that this was what he did. Where exactly did you read that?

I think this is the abridged version of the original text. In the hard copy of around 1000 pages which was lying in my grandma's house Jalandhar was abusive to vrinda. Reason her devotion to narayan

But even if we go by the contents of this link there is nothing to suggest that Jalandhar was a revolutionary leader or was any different from any other asur like mahishasur, taraka or any other

In my opinion why people are getting so impressed by DKDM ' s Jalandhar is because

One he was shown as a poor little boy whose mother was brutally killed by Indra . There was no matasya kanya so the issue of murdering her doesn't arise

Two the role was played by mohit raina. Now he is a great actor and he brought in a certain kind of magic to the role. I can lay bets that had the role been played by any other actor who was lesser known or one of those actors who prey villains , this type of fan following would not have been there

It was clever of cvs to use mohit.

Actually I had stopped posting about Jalandhar due to this this type of glorification he received. But calling him a revolutionary is something unbearable so I spoke out

Sorry if I offended anyone . That was not my intention. Jalandhar was no more or no less then any other asur.

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Chaithali

@Chaithali

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

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Jalandhar was glorified so much in DKDM and it got so much of recognition only because of Mohit and because of Mohit it was well hyped by the channel.
The character has no relevance in purans apart from Vrinda who is worshiped as Tulsi.

Nandini u have laid out the points very well. He is not a revolutionary by any means but Ravana was.
He is not only very knowledgeable but had so many talents.
Ravana is known even to a small child even though he/she might not know his story.
But I do not wish to see the story of Ramayan in Mahadev.

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