The 36 Tattvas of Lord Shiva - Page 2

Originally posted by: camella

Lovely post as always..thanks for posting this minu di!!😳 btw..could you post something on the chakras, ida,pingala,sushumna and the various forms of shiva-shakti present at each chakra sometime?it's something that has always intrigued me..😊

Originally posted by: mnx12

The most important about Shiv & shakti's story is their union, seperation & again union forever. When he learnt about sati's end at Kailash his reaction was different. Now when he is on the Earth the last element, his reaction is like a normal human. This is not even maya but a reality. Her seperation from him is a realty. He has come here lookin for her not like a God but like a human. the moment he will sense her presence, when any of her body part is found. He will become the same protective Shiv, now will not want to get seperated from her, so will stay at all the places. This will be their biggest gift to mankind.

This Shiv will then want his Aadi Shakti back with him, physically & his next effort will be in that direction.

It's not only Shiv, even Shakti is always eager to unite with him. So both of then will take step in uniting once again permanently.

& Yes Shiv is the player, but he enjoys the game with his Shakti. In her absence he will be mostly inactive.

Originally posted by: NST1983

I'm not arguing about this puranic or near-puranic treatment of events! Your version is really ok!

I was commenting about tattvas only. For example, what concerns maya - this tattva is veru different in kashmiri shivaism comparing to Shankaras advaita or dvaitic philosophies. When in later (Shankaras advaita and dvaita) it's illusion, in Kashmiri shivaism it's real. But maya covers shuddha tattvas, it obscures real nature of Siva. Who can reach this real nature? Not only enlighted God, but human by the means of practice. So, jeevanmukta becomes Shiva, still having his own body. But when a normal human is in illusion, he he still doesn't loose his real nature

Originally posted by: tannipartner

could you explain that in blue?

Originally posted by: NST1983

I'm not arguing about this puranic or near-puranic treatment of events! Your version is really ok!

I was commenting about tattvas only. For example, what concerns maya - this tattva is veru different in kashmiri shivaism comparing to Shankaras advaita or dvaitic philosophies. When in later (Shankaras advaita and dvaita) it's illusion, in Kashmiri shivaism it's real. But maya covers shuddha tattvas, it obscures real nature of Siva. Who can reach this real nature? Not only enlighted God, but human by the means of practice. So, jeevanmukta becomes Shiva, still having his own body. But when a normal human is in illusion, he he still doesn't loose his real nature

Originally posted by: flamingo_aries

Thanks minu for the enlightment🤗...

Wat i followed frm ur post is...v too r made up all those tattvas except the prior 5...i dnt knw abt Vishnu tattvas at all..but i can draw a conclusion dat Shiv n humans has common tatttvas...unless the 5 major which makes Him Devadhi Dev...if one can master the remaining tattvas,one can attain the remaining,importantly other 5 tattvas too...but ya it takes lot of severe penance n years too...😆..which is impossible with average life span of 50 yrs in Kalyug...😆...

Anyways awesome post..👏

Originally posted by: NST1983

According to Kashmiri Shivaism Shiva is supreme consciousness, he's both the One but he's also present in the diversity, in all the nmaterial world and humans. He, by his own will expands himself in all other tattvas, but it doesn't mean that lover-level tattvas exclude higher-level ones.

So, I meant that this nature cannot be lost, cause it's the only reality (and Shiva resides in the heart of every person), bur a person of course can experience that he lacks it.

The highest goal of Kashmiri Shivaism is a person becoming Shiva (It differs from philosophy of dvaita where jeevas inherently inferior to Bhagavan). It doesn't mean that he can accomplish that easily, or during one life. And it doesn't mean that person can do it on his or her own, he/she needs blessing from guru, human and/or God

That's how I understand this. Sorry if there are any inconsistencies