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Vrish

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Vibs

We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now. There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka. He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

In this serial, they seem to be following the North Indian version, since there's no Surapadman so far, and so it's unlikely that they can just import them from nowhere. But what they have done is shift Tarakasura so that he lived during the time of Sati, and even tried to contrive her death. Then during the establishment of the Shakti Peeths and the birth of Parvati, they showed him try to sabotage that as well. This is definitely off text.

If I find those page# above, I'll let you know. Or else, if Varaali is reading this, she can fill in the sources.

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Vibhishna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#672

They seem to infuse the storyline with every myth possible. I really don't understand why they have to do this - like Bahrupa trying to kill the baby Parvati, etc.

By the way, is Vidyunmali (and his brothers) mentioned in the North Indian texts too?

Also, they showed Ganga's entry recently and Ganga being in Swarga Lok. Didn't Mahadev promise the river Saraswati that she would join Ganga who flows out of his jata during Sati's post wedding farewell rituals (sorry, I keep forgetting the names of the rituals).

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varaali

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Posted: 13 years ago

#673

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Vibs

We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now. There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka. He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

Krauncha was a mountain, who was blocking Kartikeya's path when he was on his way to kill Surapadman

And Surapadman had a son called Bhanugopan, who was killed by Veerabahu, the general of Kartikeya's army

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Vibhishna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#674

Originally posted by: varaali

Krauncha was a mountain, who was blocking Kartikeya's path when he was on his way to kill Surapadman

And Surapadman had a son called Bhanugopan, who was killed by Veerabahu, the general of Kartikeya's army

I am familiar with these details. Didn't Karthikeya himself kill Banugopa? Its been a long time since I read Skanda Purana.

It will take me a couple of weeks to pull out my books. They are sort of inaccessible now.

I was just curious about Vidyunmali shown in this serial. I was wondering if there were texts in the North which mentions him and other sons of Tarakasur.

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Vrish

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Posted: 13 years ago

#675

^^^^ No, it was Veerabahu who did it. Kartikeya did in Krauncha, Taraka, Simhamukha and Surapadman.

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Vibhishna

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Posted: 13 years ago

#676

I have a question. Did Rishi Dadichi exist when Parvati was born? I thought Indra had the Vajra long before Parvati's time.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#677

What is the difference between Sati and Parvati? I know they are both forms of Adishakti, but both of them are humans.

How does Parvati stay with Shivji even though she is a human and how does she become "yogya" for him, when it takes Sati so much time to become "yogya" for Shivji and realize her powers?

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Nandini

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Posted: 13 years ago

#678

Sati did not do tapasya. She got shiva easily. She had a little ego and prde. She didnt really want to follow the path of aurtarity and selfknowledge. She realised all that during the yajna and decided to give up her body. As parvati she chose the path of tapas. Due to the prolonged meditation she attained divinity and also attained complete self knowledge of being a godess

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Vrish

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Posted: 13 years ago

#679

Vibs

That struck me as a blooper as well. Any idea about the timeline when Indra got to fight & slay Vritra? In this serial, they made a complete khichri of it by having Vritra & Tarakasura as friends But I too thought that Indra's fight w/ Vritra would have happened during the time of Sati, in which case Dadhichi would have had to die then. So Meena and Parvati living w/ him is really weird.

tptwi

Parvati was Sati reborn, but she was a completely different person. Something like Krishna & Rama, if you will. Both were human, and that wasn't the reason Sati couldn't stay w/ Shiva. Sati found herself torn b/w a husband, and a father who disrespected him despite him being the supreme godhead. That's why she abandoned that body, so that Daksha would have no relationship to Shiva, and that the latter would be at liberty to punish him. Being human wasn't what stopped Sati from living w/ Shiva.

Parvati became yogya for Shiva after thousands of years of meditation following Kama's incineration.

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Vrish

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Posted: 13 years ago

#680

Okay, the episode they showed just now about the story of Markandeya, and how he was saved by Shiva from Yamaraj brought to mind another question.

Markandeya's parents, as the episode showed, were given an option by Shiva to either choose an ignorant son who'd live long, or a wise one who'd die @ 16 (the episode showed 12). The parents chose the latter, and as the episode showed, Markandeya became very learned by the time he was due to die.

Then, when he found out about what lay in store for him, he decided to go and propriate Mahadev. Yamaraj came to snatch him while he was clutching Mahadev's linga, and Mahadev came and saved him.

Question I have is - did Markandeya want an extended life only to serve his parents? If that was the case, then when his parents died (I don't think they were immortal), shouldn't that have cleared the way for him to pass on as well? Why did he get to be immortal, as opposed to just having an extended life?

Note that he's one of the few immortals in Hindu mythology, alongside Bali, Vibhishan, Hanuman, Jambavan, Parashurama. Was he a favorite of Mahadev that caused this?

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