Fate Accountable for Everything? - Page 5

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

lol. once again, adpated from above-

and of course you have found incontrovertible proof for your ideas?😛run some experiments in the lab or wat? like test tubes and bunsen burners and light bulbs going on and off? all those wires leading nowhere😆

regarding the stuff you have above, for a guy flunking his grade, what is the cause? poor showing on that 1 or 2 hour exam. or a history of goofing off? vice versa for a guy who aces his exam but was off to the movies the night before?

and since you find everything incidental, ow do you explain the concept of humans having will?😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

lol. once again, adpated from above-

and of course you have found incontrovertible proof for your ideas?😛run some experiments in the lab or wat? like test tubes and bunsen burners and light bulbs going on and off? all those wires leading nowhere😆 heard of open circuits - wires running all over but no light...😆

regarding the stuff you have above, for a guy flunking his grade, what is the cause? poor showing on that 1 or 2 hour exam. or a history of goofing off? vice versa for a guy who aces his exam but was off to the movies the night before?

and since you find everything incidental, ow do you explain the concept of humans having will?😊

important point i mentioned natural dynamic applies more to nautural hapeneing in absence of will.. nobody goes to an exam goes like a zombie...😆 and the cause of failure is ability of immediate recall which can be what you read just befire the exams or whenever... dont forget brain has a storage ability.. in which case its an random access of ideas at the hall...😊monkeys cab ve traubed ti gave tge same will its a part of learning... and associative intelligence...

now i am sleepy. shub ratri rest of the anwsers will continue tomorrow...

Goodnight from Yoda....😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Goodnight from Yoda....😆

😡 master yoda is ME and I ain't sleeping. I am beyond natural dynamics😉

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

😡 master yoda is ME and I ain't sleeping. I am beyond natural dynamics😉

cos of ur av you are Padme... 😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

important point i mentioned natural dynamic applies more to nautural hapeneing in absence of will.. nobody goes to an exam goes like a zombie...😆 and the cause of failure is ability of immediate recall which can be what you read just befire the exams or whenever... dont forget brain has a storage ability.. in which case its an random access of ideas at the hall...😊monkeys cab ve traubed ti gave tge same will its a part of learning... and associative intelligence...

now i am sleepy. shub ratri rest of the anwsers will continue tomorrow...

Goodnight from Yoda....😆

lol. wonder what all that was about. hope you didnt feel compelled to come up with something for an answer here😆

ok, so "natural dynamic applies more to natural happening in absence of will". dont know what all that delphic pronouncement actually covers, but anyways- how about all the other cases when we dont have "natural happening in absence of will"?😛 as you so mysteriously put it?😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

important point i mentioned natural dynamic applies more to nautural hapeneing in absence of will..

dynamic process is not will-driven? Then what drives it ? if there is no will, no plan of action , wouldn;t that mean randomness / chaos? ow do you suppose the universe to run then?

nobody goes to an exam goes like a zombie...😆

oh we did! studied whole night before 😛

and the cause of failure is ability of immediate recall

huh? why would one fail if they recalled and threw up their knowledge in the answer sheets?

which can be what you read just befire the exams or whenever... dont forget brain has a storage ability..

yeah, it is called memory if i remember it right 😆

in which case its an random access of ideas at the hall...😊monkeys cab ve traubed ti gave tge same will its a part of learning... and associative intelligence...

Got English? 😳😳😳

now i am sleepy. shub ratri rest of the anwsers will continue tomorrow...

Okay, that explains the above😉

Goodnight from Yoda....😆

GN

Fate, Kismat, fortune.... what are they, they are beyond our control, but they are not complete us, its just a a support system. I am a firm believer in destiny, destiny gives you opportunities, the decision has to be made by you, destiny can not make decisions.... I read a very nice story about this would like to share with u all...

One fine day a village in India was flooded a lot and there were two guys who were trying to save themselves from the flood. One was a firm believer in god and thought that god will save him. The other guy said, I know how to swim so come with me I will take u to river bank. The guy said "My god is there, he will save me" So this guy jumps and goes swimming. After a while the water rises so this guy goes on roof of home. Then some people come in the boat and ask him to come in the crowded boat. He says my god is there god will save me. so the boat goes away with other people. The water levels rise further and this guy's house goes under water, he climbs the tree attached to the house and goes to the top of tree. Now a Helicopter comes to save the people and they ask him to come. But he sees the ladder and says no my god will come to save me... so the helicopter went back. Finally he drowned. He went to heaven and asked god "why he did nt save him" God said I came thrice once the other guy, once in the boat and once in the helicopter, you did nt take my help 😊

that's a nice story abhi, apt in this thread :)

Simple scenario :

Person A and Person B - Both are similar in most of the aspect of personality, emotions, intellect power, maturation, planning, living conditions, talent etc... lead thier lives at the end, Person A turns out to be a happy, successfull and one who has everything in life as compared to Person B who really fell short. Basically as in most cases for such situations it is said oh Person B's fate was not as bright then Person A. OR in hindi people often console B, sab kismat ka khel hai OR kismat is phuutoed OR kismat didn't clicked.

Debate : - Should fate be accountable in such scenario mentioned above ?

Originally posted by: Modesty

Fate too holds the key. Our behavior and personality traits depend upon our DNA. So one can say that fate is in our Genes. I remember how our Biology Professor used to joke that very soon we could have designer babies in the future -a lawyer, a pick pocketer or a doctor. The way we react to different situations i.e. our nature is already coded into our DNA and that our personality traits are inherited from our grandparents. Some are go getters and positive while others are too shy to even venture out of the house.

Wanna add that since our nature is encoded into our DNA - i.e.genes. DNA is unique to every person. Identical twins would have the same DNA. Unless or until A and B are identical twins their fate cannot be similar. Fate to alag hogi hi chaahe kuchh bhi ho. Magar unnees bees ka farak hoga not much difference. I think both A and B would be somewhat equally successful in their lives if their personlity traits and living conditions are almost similar.