EYEOPENER:Lets ban Pakistanis in BW but continue our business with Pak

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Mahesh Nair Updated: Oct 6, 2016 16:39 IST

#Ae Dil Hai Mushkil #Arnab Goswami #artists #Bollywood #Fawad Khan #India #Modi Sarkar #Pakistan #pakistani #surgical strikes #uri attacks


Now that one week has passed after India's surgical strikes against terrorists camps in Pakistan, can we please stop congratulating ourselves? Can we please sit down and calmly look at issues raised? Specifically, can all of us walk into a cinema hall and look at what happened to Bollywood?

In the beginning of this tragic-comedy drama, the Maharastra Navnirman Sena gave a 48-hour ultimatum to all Pakistani actors to leave India. They protested outside Karan Johar's Dharma Productions office.

Poster of 'Ae Dil Hai Mushkil'

They said they will not allow Dharma's Ae Dil Hai Mukshil(which features Pakistani actor Fawad Khan) to release on Oct 28th.

They have also threatened to stop the release of Excel & Red Chillies forthcoming film Raees (which features Pakistani actress Mahira Khan in a leading role opposite Shahrukh Khan).

I am puzzled by what gives MNS the right to demand this? Could it be sheer goonda power?

After all this is a party which won one seat out of the 219 it contested in the 2014 elections and its lone MLA from Junnar, SB Sonawane has already launched another party.

But then MNS is not just the comedian we see on our screen. Soon the BJP, Shiv Sena, Congress, NCP and others also asked Bollywood to boycott Pakistani artistes. Many well-known personalities (many from Bollywood themselves), TV news anchors and media companies also called for a boycott. The accusation leveled at Bollywood: How can you use Pakistani artiste when your Jawans are being killed by Pakistan-supported terrorists?

I am no admirer of Fawad Khan or Mahira Khan. I think India has far better actors if they are given a chance. But I fail to understand: Why didn't the government of India which is directly affected by cross border terrorism ban the use of Pakistani talent in India? How can the Modi sarkar issues visas (since 2014) to Pakistani artistes when our Jawans are being killed by Pakistan-supported terrorists?

Is it because Pakistan artiste operating in Bollywood is a not really such an important issue for the government? Is it because the government wants officially to project that we don't want to mix art with politics or military actions? The answers to these questions are not what party officials, Arnab Goswami, or rabble rousing military experts would want to hear.

Whilst we are seated inside the cinema hall and watching this Bollywood-under- attack dramedy, let us take a commercial break:India's exports to Pakistan in 2015-16 was $2.17 billion. India's imports were less than $500 million during the same period. Simply put, India makes more from Pakistan than Pakistan from India.

This year in Pakistan there has been a surge in demand for Indian cotton, dairy products and sugar. Incidentally, Pakistan was the largest buyer of Indian cotton in the 2015/16 season.

So in the last six months as an anti-Pakistan fever was gripping us, Indian companies were happily sending cotton and sugar from Mumbai's port to Karachi. Have you ever seen the Shiv Sena or the MNS threatening to beat up these Mumbai based trading companies or Mumbai Port Trust officials?

In the case of cement it is the reverse scenario. Because of Indian demand, there is a surge in cement imports from Pakistan. Cement from Pakistan turns out to be cheaper. The average price of a sack of an Indian brand is around Rs 550 but Pakistani supplies are sold at Rs 480-500.

Have you ever seen Arnab scolding Indian businessmen on how dare they import cheaper cement from Pakistan when thousands of innocent Indians are being killed in Pak-sponsored terrorist acts?

Remember, these are all official Indo-Pak trades authorized by the Indian government.

According to an ICRIER report released in July 2016, India's annual informal trade with Pakistan is about US$ 4.71 billion. Of this, India's exports to Pakistan are estimated to be USD 3.99 billion and imports from Pakistan USD 0.72 billion.

The ICRIER report gives an interesting example of informal trade: The New Textile Market is a major textile hub in Surat with about 50,000 members. About 42,000 of its members are exporting overseas. The main export items of these exporters are Salwar Kameez Dupatta (SKD) and dyed and other fabrics etc. About 90 percent of these exporters export to Pakistan via Dubai and only 10 percent do it directly.
I have not yet seen any "nationalistic" party asking how dare these Surat traders send Salwar Kameez Dupatta to Pakistan?

Enough of this blaming Bollywood dramedy or as the Anupam Khers and Ashok Pandits exemplify nautanki.

Even though it's a clich this is true: Bollywood is a soft target.

(L-R) 'Ae Dil Hai Mushkil', 'Raees' and 'Dear Zindagi' all have Pakistani artists in them.

Today you will hear these psudeo-nationalists call for a ban on Ae Dil Hai Mushkil. In some days you will hear them asking to ban Amazon which is planning to launch Ae Dil Hai Mushkil in its paid digital video service. Next year they will ask Salman Khan and Kabir Khan's Tubelight to be banned because it features Chinese actress Zhu Zhu and China is supplying weapons to Pakistan or because Salman Khan made a stupid statement.

The Indian government will turn a deaf ear to all this threats or shrug it off and say this is not our official policy. India will officially continue doing business with Pakistan and making pots of money, terrorism be damned.

And then our nationalists and our country's conscience keepers will wait for another chance to hit Bollywood and grab eyeballs.

(Mahesh Nair is a writer and film maker)

http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/surgical-strikes-done-lets-ban-bollywood-but-continue-our-business-with-pakistan-3037698.html

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lets criticize people for discussing political issues in bollywood forum and then continue to make another topic on the same issue oneself. 😉 😆
Edited by NathuPyare - 8 years ago
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Disclaimer : I personally am not in favor of banning any artist. For the larger scheme of things, it doesn't resolve anything.

But, neither do I care if someone wants to ban them. Gah.. please go ahead. Coz again, in larger scheme of things, it doesn't matter.


Now On the article, Everything aside, I so do not agree with 'Boohoo' crying of Bollywood. BW is not a sacred industry. BW-vasis very well jump into all socio-political matters of the country. They are always getting involved. Which is of course their right. Their FOE. And they can do as they please.

So, if they have the right to jump into all matters related to country. If something happens, if the same countrymen demands ban, criticize these celebs, They shouldn't be crying boohoo, we are a creative industry, please leave us alone. No, it doesn't work that way. You have not kept your boundaries to being ONLY a creative industry. You very well enjoy lot of perks on being in limelight. You have a comment to make on everything. So, yeah, You can face criticism too. Remember your favorite, FOE. Your actions can have Reactions. And these same Reactions are also FOE. And with FOE comes Responsibility.


BW needs to stop crying. Such rotdus these people are. They shout intolerance, award wapsi, support Kahnaiya, yeda yeda peda. Ok. Good for you. It's a democratic country. But the minute a finger is pointed to them, or the minute they are criticized, Behind mein Fire. Boohoo starts. Cut the crap. And face it.


So if someone calls these BW-wasis as Pseudo Liberals, Hey don't call us that. But We can very well term everyone as Pseudo - Nationalist whoever doesn't agree with us. đŸ‘đŸŒ


PS - And now, people can bash me for criticizing BW industry & mahaan celebs. 😆😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NathuPyare

Lets criticize people for discussing political issues in bollywood forum and then continue to make another topic on the same issue oneself. 😉 😆



From now on, I aint even going to care about it.


People cry about these topics & then keep making them.


So as long as these topics are here, I am gonna post on them.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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businessmen dont shout from the rooftop "we all are of a different class and above all, dont ask me to put a ban on imports/exports." they simply follow Govt rules & regulations. if govt ask them to stop trading, they will simply listen to it.

and moreover they dont play with common man's emotions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: NathuPyare

Lets criticize people for discussing political issues in bollywood forum and then continue to make another topic on the same issue oneself. 😉 😆


This topic talks about the double standards of banning Pakistani actors from Bollywood while continuing business with Pakistan in other industries. It is very much relevant to this forum.

I requested certain members who were demanding Pakistani members of the forum to condemn the Uri attacks - which is completely unrelated to Bollywood, hence I requested it be moved to debate mansion.

There is a clear distinction between the two. If you can't see it, I can't help it. Hopefully other sensible members understand.
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Originally posted by: ponymo


This topic talks about the double standards of banning Pakistani actors from Bollywood while continuing business with Pakistan in other industries. It is very much relevant to this forum.

I requested certain members who were demanding Pakistani members of the forum to condemn the Uri attacks - which is completely unrelated to Bollywood, hence I requested it be moved to debate mansion.

There is a clear distinction between the two. If you can't see it, I can't help it. Hopefully other sensible members understand.


Double standards? yes of course. 😛

your topic starts with surgical attacks then moves on to discussing MNS's protest, MNS's political standing ("After all this is a party which won one seat out of the 219 it contested in the 2014 elections and its lone MLA from Junnar, SB Sonawane has already launched another party."), then drags BJP, Shiv Sena, Congress, NCP and others, ... then questions - "How can the Modi sarkar issues visas (since 2014) to Pakistani artistes" ...and so on and so forth (don't have time to read the whole essay)... and yet you say that it is not a political discussion...OK

I'm sure the mods would be able to see the distinction which is invisible to me, and also, I'm sure, many other members who have not selectively closed their eyes.

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Originally posted by: NathuPyare


Double standards? yes of course. 😛

your topic starts with surgical attacks then moves on to discussing MNS's protest, MNS's political standing ("After all this is a party which won one seat out of the 219 it contested in the 2014 elections and its lone MLA from Junnar, SB Sonawane has already launched another party."), then drags BJP, Shiv Sena, Congress, NCP and others, ... then questions - "How can the Modi sarkar issues visas (since 2014) to Pakistani artistes" ...and so on and so forth (don't have time to read the whole essay)... and yet you say that it is not a political discussion...OK

I'm sure the mods would be able to see the distinction which is invisible to me, and I'm sure many other members who have not selectively closed their eyes.


Pakistani actors being banned without a legitimate reason is indeed relevant to the Bollywood forum. This article exposes the double standards of the MNS fanatics who are vociferously behind the ban and the other politics involved. I see nothing wrong with it because it is all part of the discussion.

The only topic I asked members to stop posting was those targeting Pakistani members, which is completely unrelated to Bollywood. But if you conveniently want to attribute statements I never made to me, then be my guest, you're not the first to do that, nor will you be the last one to do that. Cheers!
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Originally posted by: ponymo


Pakistani actors being banned without a legitimate reason is indeed relevant to the Bollywood forum. This article exposes the double standards of the MNS fanatics who are vociferously behind the ban and the other politics involved. I see nothing wrong with it because it is all part of the discussion.

The only topic I asked members to stop posting was those targeting Pakistani members, which is completely unrelated to Bollywood. But if you conveniently want to attribute statements I never made to me, then be my guest, you're not the first to do that, nor will you be the last one to do that. Cheers!


similar topics have been banned saying that geo-political issues are not be be discussed in bollywood forum. if you can't distinguish between those topics and your own then clearly we disagree on "double standards". anyways, i let the mods decide...and if they think its alright to make such topics then even better...i will also join the party đŸ„ł
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Businessmen frankly admit, woh log dandha kartei hei. When you paint the town red with "Aman ki Asha", then terrorists kill people, these accidents happen.

I think Sonali Bendre's opinion was something similar. It is the government which should take decision. Second; Whatever decision it takes, it should be for every business between Pak and India.

I agree with her. If film federation takes decision based on MNS threat, it creates a wrong impression of the government. (Government policies being are run by proxies).

But film people also should be frank. They chose Pak artists because, they came for cheap and lent a help in overseas market. They don't want them now because, Indian collection might go down due to them.
Pak artists also must be feeling happy. Fawad in one year has earned, how much he could have earned ten years being in Pak. It is a win win situation for both. If an opportunity comes again, both won't hesitate to jump in.

No need to glorify "art", "peace" etc. Admit, it is your dandha. After all, we are all human beings. Who is not selfish? No need to cover up the selfishness with flowery words. When you speak such words, you get stuck.

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