Draw Muhammad contest Taxas!!! WHY??

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: 9tanki

Nobody is forcing them to see or belief what some cartoonist are drawing. Cartoonist have freedom to express themselves freely without reprisal.

True but nothing wrong in being considerate. Some may say they are not showing the same consideration towards followers of other religions, but that would make both groups get into a mudslinging war that would span centuries of history.

Originally posted by: 9tanki

Charlie Hebdo incident and last incident in Texas shows that some coward think their religion is too weak to handle any kind of criticism.

How many times are we going to condemn those cowards?

Originally posted by: 9tanki

What happened after Charlie Hebdo, people started "Everybody draw Muhammad day"
If radicals keep issuing fatwa or threatening for life for drawing cartoon, do you think non muslim will stop making fun of it ? Such cartoon contest everyday will keep rising everyday no matter whether muslims like it or not.

Yes, it became a vicious circle now. The ones drawing the Muhammad cartoons feel challenged to show that they are not afraid. The ones attacking them feel challenged to show that they will go to any lengths to defend their religion.

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-Aarya-

@-Aarya-

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: 9tanki

Nobody is forcing them to see or belief what some cartoonist are drawing. Cartoonist have freedom to express themselves freely without reprisal. Charlie Hebdo incident and last incident in Texas shows that some coward think their religion is too weak to handle any kind of criticism. What happened after Charlie Hebdo, people started "Everybody draw Muhammad day"

If radicals keep issuing fatwa or threatening for life for drawing cartoon, do you think non muslim will stop making fun of it ? Such cartoon contest everyday will keep rising everyday no matter whether muslims like it or not. Anyways aniconism is for muslim, which doesnt apply to non muslims.

What about the moral ground on which this was executed? There is no verbal provocation which can justify killing and what did those who staged the provocation intend to happen, did they not foreseeable consequences? Its morally wrongdoing by giving offense, and you should not do it, and when you do, you're offensive and nothing more to it. The free speech in this case is irrelevant, cause her actions were morally culpable vs what she actually commit.

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990853

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

What about the moral ground on which this was executed? There is no verbal provocation which can justify killing and what did those who staged the provocation intend to happen, did they not foreseeable consequences? Its morally wrongdoing by giving offense, and you should not do it, and when you do, you're offensive and nothing more to it. The free speech in this case is irrelevant, cause her actions were morally culpable vs what she actually commit.

Why is it always with muslim if people says X, there will be Y consequences, and if people says Y, there will be Z consequences. ? Consequences here means violence. Isnt there any article on peaceful protest that they know about it ? Or violence is the only answer ? Why is it always their way or direct way to heaven ?

Nobody would have come to know about that contest had there been no killing. People could have protested about it or they could have left it on their God to take revenge and this incident would have died peacefully. But people think they are God or soldier of God and if they keep opposing free speech through violence, then its not going to end.

I just hope no one issue fatwa for me for my debate. 😆

Edited by 9tanki - 10 years ago

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AnuMP

@AnuMP

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Agree that the contest is in bad taste.

But free speech should have no limits unless your free speech harms me physically or my belongings. If you start placing other limits on speech, then something you say will offend someone someplace at sometime.

Besides, protection of the First Amendment is necessary for offensive speech. Inoffensive speech does not need protection.

Your speech may offend me, but I will defend your right to be offensive. We simply cannot legislate good taste😆

As to what other communities would do - please check the image out (Moderator, if you think it is against IF's rules, I will edit the post)

This won the Awards in Visual Arts competition sponsored by the National Endowment for Arts of the US government. While people were outraged, there were no gunmen coming into the Stux Gallery or to the AP office which was selling copies of the photograph on their website.

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990853

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

I just want to know I am supporter of this cartoon contest, does it mean someone can issue fatwa for me ? Or my opinion doesn't matter as long as I don't draw image of my views ? Am I allowed free speech or I should be scared that tomorrow someone can harm me because of my views ?

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Arwen.
Events like that Draw Mohammad Contest makes me want to make fun of Holocaust or some other equally sensitive issue...

of course you won't.😉 Because you know how the civilized world would react, and no one in their right mind would want to go to the medieval east where you'd get a medal for it.😆 You're doing no ehsan buddy, except khud peh😆

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#27

i dont know why someone would not like the cartoon contest. You dont like drawing, or you dont like weird looking characters?😆

the world progresses on the back of intellectual discourse. These cartoons are a way of bringing certain ideologies in sharp focus. A lot of us do believe that those ideologies are bad for the world, on par with nazism. So buddies, it's not just free speech for the speaker, its about people receiving a different viewpoint.. Why should their choices be limited by the crazy antics of a certain group?.

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Summer3

@Summer3

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: 9tanki
I just want to know I am supporter of this cartoon contest, does it mean someone can issue fatwa for me ? Or my opinion doesn't matter as long as I don't draw image of my views ? Am I allowed free speech or I should be scared that tomorrow someone can harm me because of my views ?

Some of the cartoons that I googled are really too much. They should draw a line somewhere at least. Any normal person would get angry reading them ... even if they are not Muslims.

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: 9tanki

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If we go by your theory what's ur opinion on jokes that could be offending too ? Should people stop making jokes ?

It depends on how many people are offended and to what extent they are offended. If it a large population that is offended and if the 'jokes' are highly offensive, then yes, people should stop making 'jokes'. There is nothing funny about flaring tempers of millions.

Originally posted by: 9tanki

.The one drawing cartoon of Muhammad or Politician are just expressing their feelings whether the follower like it or hate it.

Fine but if "those guys' at the receiving end of the jokes want to express their feelings in their own way, are we ready to absorb the risk of another 9/11 or 26/11? I am not. It's not like these cartoonists or the organizers will be at the forefront fighting terrorism anyway, so they have to be more responsible. We simply can't expose a nation to danger because of the foolish actions of a few. Like I said earlier, there is no conceivable reward whatsoever to these contests. And i am not buying pseudo-psychoanalysis that these contests will bring a 180 degree turn in people. Sorry!

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souro

@souro

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Posted: 10 years ago

#30

I didn't understand what is offensive in that Jesus picture. I only see a crucified guy in yellow against an orange backdrop. Am I missing something? 😕

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