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Posted: 10 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Druids



Till 1826, billions of Hindus didn't even exist.

Oh yes, Sir Raj Ram Mohan Roy, an opium agent of the British and his chaddi buddy Dwarkanath Tagore (Sir Rabidranath Tagore's grandfather) stopped bad Hindus from the heinous practice of Sati right?

And Tagore ran Sonagachi brothels on the side where he supplied little boys also to the Brit officers. Thank God for these 2, otherwise Hindus would still be living in the stone ages.




Nope, it were the demi-gods Bentinck and Canning who saved Indians from Sati and non-widow remarriage respectively, not these dirty li'l Black Natives.

Btw, I want the name of whatever you're on.


Or rather, what the obscure blog-writer you gathered this gem of information from, was on.


And oh, "Hindus" came into existence only after 711 A.D. 😛


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Posted: 10 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: krystal_watz



Bold: No. Mocking sonething does not amount to calling for its demise. What led to this conclusion, I wonder.


Well the Posters they used alongside the Cartoons saying 'Stop Islam' should acount for this Conclusion
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Posted: 10 years ago
#93
Lets not talk about Other religion Guys.
they are not the ones being killed with the tag of 'terrorist'
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Posted: 10 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


WHy? you want a spliff? 😃

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Posted: 10 years ago
#95
Spliff? I think you doth lie. This sounds no less than 'stacy.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

"Stop Islam"? Seriously?

Ofcourse you wouldn't notice that 😆
Check the Link i send you earlier and see the pictures too.

Now don't tell me i made up the pictures and article as well cause thats just Stupid 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
#97
I support the movement for the reason Rehanism mentioned earlier-Changing the response by making them get used to it.The process is called systematic desensitization.-a natural process in which human produce less emotional or physical response to a repeated stimulus.The result is the same when done on a individual or on masses.The result is also the same regardless of whether the stimulus is naturally occurring or brought about by an external force.
One can find loads of clinical and empirical evidence and case studies about it, even online.Plenty of social evidences as well.One such would be the gradual tolerance of homosexuality in the West.Same-sex couples kissing would have been a downright outrageous sight some years ago.Now,not so much.The evolution of Christianity from perhaps the most violent religion in the past to its more tolerant form is another one.There was a time when slight offenses could get one crucified or burned at stake.Even Galileo came close to it merely for supporting Copernican heliocentrism.Now Dan Brown can write Jesus Christ is not God and had secret affair with Mary Magdalene without getting shot.What has changed? The constant and gradual exposure to opposing ideals and counter beliefs gradually made people more comfortable with it.The intention is to lessen the response and thereby making it more favourable to the society, not a reversal of ideals.To a Christian, what Dan Brown has written could still be unpardonable,but not provocative enough to resort to violence in the name of it.After all,a provocation is only as powerful as the response it generates.

Cartoons of Muhammad too will go the same way.Muslims badly need desensitization.Need evidence?Switch on Al Jazeera or BBC Middleast news,you will find that in plenty.After all,who needs it more than those who kills someone just because he or she drew a picture that offended them?

To me this is not about Free speech vs hate speech.That's something which has different interpretations in different places,it seems.People are free to draw lines where ever they want.Not reliable enough to take a stand.I'm only interested in the intentions and possible outcomes.Since Pamela Geller is a known anti-Islamic activist,I doubt whether the organizers have any good intentions in mind.More likely,they are just mocking the religion.
However,regardless of whether the organizers are aware of it or not,such movements can gradually make Islam a more liberal and peaceful religion.I support it for that possible outcome.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#98
QL, you may have a point here. I am getting systematically desensitized to these psychoanalytic, behavioral therapy advancing esoteric posts so much so that I have very little resolve left now to "fight back" anymore. It is working!

I would like to think that "free speech" laws are what led to "opposing ideals and counter beliefs" to come to the fore but what do I know?!

So, in your systematic desensitizing therapy, if as a first step we draw cartoons of Muhammad, what's the next step that you are proposing as a coping mechanism? Relaxation techniques? Isn't this a 3 step process by the way?

This "therapy" is what led to people accepting homosexuals? Or Christians to gradually turn into broadminded individuals? Do you realize these two are extraordinary claims with nary an evidence? How did you make the jump from "treating a guy having a phobia or two" to "curing masses" employing this technique?

What next? Mass hypnosis?


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Posted: 10 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: ..FallAndFly..

Ofcourse you wouldn't notice that 😆
Check the Link i send you earlier and see the pictures too.

Now don't tell me i made up the pictures and article as well cause thats just Stupid 😆






If that's the case, then its xenophobic beyond all doubt. Though I still won't put it in the category of "hate speech" as I would something like "Kill All Muslims" or "Wipe out Moslems".


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Posted: 10 years ago
Mr. K, I think you're viewing the term "de-sensitisation" in water-tight definitive terms. Not every terminology that's tied to psychoanalysis or psychiatry needs to be viewed through a strictly technical lens.

A lay example in favour of this would suffice: A decade earlier, people would balk at any mention of homosexuality. Post the success of the movie "Dostana" which eased the idea into the minds of the masses through a hunorous take, the topic gradually evolved into non-taboo for discussion.

Though you're correct on one point. The "Rammohan approach" (re-defining the texts to nullify any excuse in favour of Sati) is preferable to the "Young Bengal" one of publicly making a show of eating beef and desecrating the Geeta. But the question is, does the Orthodox Islamic worldview provide for even minimal "easing space"?

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