Qualities inherited by AStha and Sia!! - Page 2

I have watched on and off Astitva so please excuse me if there are mistakes. I have written this based on the fabolous updates of sree;s.

Anjali you have rightly pointed out hereditary vs. upbringing has always been a debatable topic. All aspects of anyone's life - their character, sense of responsibility, good and bad habits, ability to cope with difficulties, and the faithfulness - are shaped primarily during childhood. The bright memories of childhood can strengthen and warm them during trying times, and, contrarily, those who have not had a happy childhood can in no way remake it. Even if they are not with their real parents their characteristics are always developed. In this case both Sia and Astha have always had parental affection but I think they both in different ways were showered with too much warmth and brought up in very secure environments, and this can play a vital role on how they perceive things now. They were brought up in a lovingly environment but the parental genes are still there and characteristics will surface in them as we get to know them more.

There are some common characteristics between Sia and Astha. They are stubborn in their own rights and fearless. They are ready to fight for a good cause and deliver justice to the wronged. They are also hasty and jump quickly without thinking about the consequences, which is a trait that is related to their father. His idea to run away from everyone without consulting is also seen in his kids where they do not think its always necessary to ask their family before taking decisions.

Sia – Sia has been shown as strong, self-motivated and strong-minded just like Simran. She is also very caring and is concerned for the society more than herself. Unlike her mother Archana who had not thought once about it when kidnapping that how this would affect the kidnapped kids parents. Instead of adopting she ruined a family's happiness. On the adverse Sia after her good friends were dead still thought about them and came all the way to India to look for answers. Regarding her reaction to the reality of her parenthood she took it the same way as we had expected her to. She like another other in her situation would have wanted to know about her real parents. I think Archana providing a false story like money was not something that a level minded person like Sia could easily buy. And if it was indeed money then Sia wants to be there to help them fulfill their quest by helping them.

Astha – Astha not able to successfully pass the medical exams show that this has nothing to do with the upbringing but in fact that sometimes you need the parent's genes as her parents were not doctors. All in her family starting from Simran to Shaguna to Abhi's parents had spoiled her. She has got away with what she wanted and that she believed was because she was a part of them. It is not easy when you are loved so much to be told that you are really no the part of it, So it was why she reacted the way she did feeling lost and unsure. Its not that she did not love Simran anymore or forgot all that Simran has done for her over the years but its that she did not even have a hint that she was not a part of them that made her react this way.

Agreed ...

Behavior is more dependant on the upbringing. Simran has spoilt Gudia Ashtha "rotten" 😊

Simran had pretty much all the luxaries of life that she could need, she was very well settled - had the burden of loosing a child - reflects onto Gudiya's upbringing - no sense of responsibility, she is a "bade ma ki bighadi hui ladki"

We don't know too much about Sia Astha's upbringing. From the snippets we see - seems like the kidnapper had her feet firmly on the ground and that reflects in Sia's maturity, sense of responsibility and so on - don't think it has anything to do with the genetics.

Originally posted by: anitamanns

Behaviour is definately not genetic. It is picked up from the enviorment. Children's behaviour is a reflection of their parents. There is a wonderful parentling book called "HOW TO BEHAVE SO YOUR CHILDREN WILL TOO" and i think the title says it all.

But here in the case of Gudiya Asatha.. she is a direct product of being a spoilt child. Simran may have all the qualites that we think are great etc. But when you spoil your child as has been apparently shown in the serial than the immature reaction that we see is also expected.

Sia Asatha on the other hand was brought up well..or so it seems..we don't get much indication of that.. she reacts as expected with the desire to find her roots but when it came to not hurting her mom.. when she was ill she agreed to stay back ... she left when she found that she had been manipulated. No body will stand for that definately not a grown up child..adopted or otherwise.

Originally posted by: Akshata

Intelligence, and talent are inherent ....

My late lamented relatives from my father's side (my father was an extremely intelligent, talented man) were all talented, some brilliant lawyers, surgeons amongst them. I am mediocre, untalented.

Originally posted by: Akshata

Temperament(mild or hyper) may be inherited ...

Again, from my own life, I am hyper, temperamental, so is my mother, but my daughter is extremely sweet, never raises her voice even when provoked.

We would all like to believe that all good things are inherited and bad things are environmental. Maybe so, but the environment shapes and brings to the fore whatever little bit may be in the genes. A potential Einstein may not flourish if circumstances throw him into penury. What talent did Hitler inherit, to cite the other extreme.

i do agree when u say that genes alone donot play a part in the way u react to situations but some of u have mentioned that genes donot have any part to play at all and this is wrong.

we are what we are bcoz of two factors - our genes and our upbrining. both are an integral part.

coming to astitva, sia 's balanced nature is definitely from simran . although we know that the characters are fictitious and its just a story, but seeing a striking similarity between sia and simran (the composed and balanced) , we have to trace back to the genes factor. i do agree, simran has a hand in making aastha a spoilt brat but coming to the genes part of it, aastha seems to have gone more on dad who is also fickle-minded and stupid at time.

I want to first begin with a round of applause to each and every one of you! I feel that every one's post is just outstanding and brilliant!!! You are all very intelligent and talented..... 👏 (Through upbringing or genetics what ever it may be)

Back to the topic as hang....I don't know what more to add.

SIA - is definitely like her mother and her father. It's obvious how she's just like her mom, as you all have mentioned above. The following are a few things that come to my mind that relate to her father:

Both had an eye for photography

Both were driven extremely stubborn

Both choose to do their own things without thinking about how it might hurt their loved ones, especially their parents.

Both are extremely passionate and carefree people. Saurabh once has mistress in the very beginning of the show but later changed his ways, so between her parents and grandparents, to a certain extent this very fact could have influenced SIA's inherited personality.

We don't see SIA being motivated at all in academics, she seems to be more concern with matters of the heart and emotions.

Astha - With Astha all i can say is that she's just brought up to be a brat. She's been sheltered and that has resulted in her personality and her behavior. Even though Neha was emotional, she wasn't a brat like her daughter. Astha is more like her grandmothers (nani and dadi); both were emotional and use to take extreme measures in times of distress. Although the dadi changed later on in the show, initially she was extremely hot headed.

Both Astha and SIA have one thing in common; they both were raised without a father. Even thought Astha had the influence of her grandfather, there still seems to be a distance.

With Sia, you see her not truly aware of the father daughter relationship, and with Astha, she too can't understand the relationship she has with Sid. For her any caring gesture or affection is misread into love. Both don't know what the meaning of relationships and are immature when it comes to understand what each of them mean.

I have to say both girls are like Abhi when he was younger.

Thanks.

Before I begin to write my view points on this topic, I would like to thank all the members who have given their input on this topic. I must tell you all that the replies were simply great, one exceeding the other.

I would like to give a special mention to the replies by Akshata. Tremendous analysis, very thoughtful, I must say. Keep it up, Akshata.

This topic as Anjali puts it, "Nature Vs. Nurture" is very debateable.According to me, a child inherits some qualities, some mannerisms from parents. But it is also true that the child gains from the environment in which it grows. So I would say that it is a Mixture of both "Nature" and "Nurture".

In general, if you see a child or a grown-up, you can indentify in his /her face, a resemblance to either of the parents. The child might have acquired certain mannerisms from them, it may be anything - standing style, walking style, way of speaking, likes and dislikes with regard to food ....the list is endless.

I would at this point, like to tell you all something about me. I have a unique style of holding my pen or pencil while writing. Unique in the sense, many of my friends, who have noticed this, have burst into laughter. But, to tell you the real truth, my father holds his pen the same way I hold it. So do you all think that I have copied this minute stylefrom my father? The answer is NO. This has just come in me, my parents noticed this similaritiy in our writing style when I was in my Std 6...This is just a very small example thro' which I want to tell you all that "Certain Qualities can be inherited".

Now i will move on to the real Topic of Discussion.

I would list out certain characteristic traits in AStha and Sia and then compare them to their parents.

The Wavery Nature of Astha: Astha wants to become a doctor just because Simran is a doctor. She has promised her mother that that she will one day, become a doctor. But, to become a doctor, one needs to put in lot of hard work. But Astha, a playful character as she is, wants to enjoy life. She is not serious about her studies. She always makes up her mind to study well, attend classes, read in the library. But she then thinks otherwise, does not keep upto what she has thought.
THis wavery nature in Astha has come from her father Abhi who also suffered from this. He married Simran, then went to Kiran, repented forleaving Simran, wanted Simran back, married Neha. So he never had his prorities straight on marriage.

Astha not Understanding Situations: Astha after knowing the truth that Simran is not her mother, could have calmed down, understood Simran's viewpoint. But she never did that. She got wild at a woman who devoted 18 long years forher.
Abhi also messed up many situations because of his immaturity. To talk of the worst, he allowed Neha to brood over the fact that he was more friendly ans caring for Simran.
If only Abhi had the maturity, he could have clearly bridged between Friendship for Simran and Love,Affection for Neha. This line between Friendship and Love is very thin, but one should be very clear in drawing this line. Abhi did not do this, did not understand the situation , thus lost Neha.

The Impulsive, Insecure Nature of Astha: Astha has been brought up by Simran in a very pampered way. One thing, Astha has known in life is that, she should be loved by all. When she saw Simran caring for Divya at first, then Sia, Astha lost her cool, felt insecure and jealous.
This attitude , she has inherited from her mother, Neha who was a very insecure character. She was very insecure before marriage because she had a mentally unstable mother, then, she was a very insecure wife, always used to have the fear of Abhi going away to Simran.

Astha is very impulsive in her reactions. She always has the attitude of jumping into conclusions without analysing things. She behaved very rudely with Simran after she got to know that Simran is not her mother.
Neha, her mother, also did the same thing. She could have analysed the Abhi-Simran issue in a better way, talked her heart out in a cool and composed manner to Abhi. She did not do it and was very impulsive in whatever she did.

Now I would move on to Sia.

Liking for Photography, Books: Sia has a liking for photography. She loves to read books. She gets so involved reading those books that she remembers the writings in the books she has read.
Abhi was a fashion photographer, so Sia has inherited that trait from her father. Abhi used to write columns in papers, now writes books. So the intellectual mind to read and understand human relationships has come to Sia from Abhi.

Great Level of Maturity, Sensibility, Determination, Dedication: Sia at her tender age, is so mature, has her priorities set. Though she reacted rudely to Archana once she knew about her truth, she quickly analysed the issue, told Archana some soothing words that she is her mother.
Sia is able to advise anyone, be it Simran, AStha, Sid. She shows a high level of maturity, sensibility.
She has inherited this from Simran who was very mature from a small age. Simran had her priorities set, wanted to do service as a doctor, achieved it. The same levl of dedication and determination can also be seen in Sia. Sia was determined to ctach her friends' killers. She did it. So, Sia, like Simran, knows the art of setting targets in life and achieving them.

So with this comparison, I say that AStha has taken up all the worst qualities from her parents. Though there weer certain nice qualities in Neha and Abhi, AStha has inherited a set of bad qualities from her parents.
Sia on the other hand, has taken up only the good qualities of her parents, Abhi and Simran and not inherited the bad or negative qualities in them.

I personally think that genetic factors do impact on someone's behaviour; plus childern develop their own behaviour from the circumstances they are brought up in.

Astha"Guriya" does act like her mother (Neha) when she feels insecure and jealous. She is very short tempered and does not think before she does anything.

On the other hand "Sia" (Astha) is like her father: She has same qualities as journalism and photography. She also has Abhi's negative qualities as She thinks she in in love with Anand who is her father's age( not knowing that he is his father). Abhi fell in love with Simram who was ten years older that him. She also has Simran's qualities as smart, calm, soft hearted, proplem solver etc. She tries to solve her own problems rather than blaming only on other people. Finally she realized that eventhough, Archana is not her mother, but there is still love and affection betwween them.

In essence, parents behaviour does reflect on children.

Here is an interesting link that talks about behaviour and genetics:

http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/beha vior.shtml