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Posted: 13 years ago
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To prevent being swayed by the winds that come in from any directions, to give direction to your life, to withstand and rise against all resistance, to be successful ; goals, today are considered crucial.
Goal setting, as an exercise, has been very unrewarding to me so far. Nevertheless, I hope the struggles build me up for a stronger future.
I'd like to listen to the experiences of those who set goals/try to set goals/implement goals. I think there'll be some learning involved.

Secondly, I wonder whether swaying with the winds is actually really so bad as it is made to sound. To go with the natural flow- is it so wrong? My mind says it is a romantic concept, but oh well!

Views on the above are appreciated. :)
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thank god, I thought it was a stupid football topic ๐Ÿ˜›
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Hi clodpod, long time since I have seen such an interesting topic. :) Heck, with all the wh**ehouse ads on this forum it's the only topic :P

Anyway, let me speak about a recent experience of mine involving goal setting.

As some of you may know, I am pursuing my CA course and most recently I wrote the entrance test, ie the CPT aka common proficiency test.

I had made a plan to study 3 months before my exam. But and the end of it all, I had only been able to study one and a half months before it.

Let me examine the reasons why I strayed from my plan:
1. The portions were so simple I didn't feel challenged nor interested.
2.It had been such a long time since I studied so it was difficult for me to get back into study mode.
3. I had lots of distractions.

So I guess you need to really want to do it, or have something that makes you wanna do it, and you must be free from distractions. :)
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I'm sorry it has been unrewarding for you... but, dont give up.
OK, so, where do i start? I have a goal.. in my life. I do think if I cannot achieve it, my life would end. And, it hasnt been a pleasant experience so far, there are times when I cry and feel hopeless when I fail to re-collect, when i waste too much time etc.
I'm just in the preperation stage for my goal.. and have about 3-4 years time until i can take my exam to achieve my goal. I started preparing last year...and, I have to admit, I wasted LOADS and LOADS of time! :( I wouldnt call it preparation at all ..I was 17 last year when I started preparing, and i was naive(dumb rather, to not know priorities of my life), got very distracted. My mental health was majorly messed up especially last few months last year.
Since January this year..I have had amazing time in terms of my preparation. I am proud to say, I was consistent so far ๐Ÿ˜ณ and i should be, the graph should go up, sky-rocket for the next 3-4 years! >:( ...it's actually wonderful how when your priorities change, your whole attitude towards life change.
Lets talk about preparation, especially if one's preparing for things like Civils, etc which require minimum 2 years of hardwork --
#1 -- Anyone can aim for a goal, but when one steps into the preparation aspect of it - it's tough and is a lengthy process. I have poor knowledge, and.. i feel I need to study and learn everything from the grass-root levels...so it takes more time for me. Also, i set a routine, and if I dont complete it one day, it piles up for the next day and so on and on...and I hate to keep anything pending ๐Ÿ˜† so, yes, I am careful to complete my daily targets, atleast regularly :):)
#2 -- One must tune themselves and be very DEVOTED. Especially if your an 18 year-old like me, where you have so many things that call for your attention, got to tune yourself. I believe one must have a drive, and passion, hunger to keep going. Man is lethargic by nature, and hence it takes great deal of passion, commitment, sincerity and devotion to keep yourself stuck to the routine of preparation. Personally, I always think that world is too insecure. I gotta make myself a secure place in this world ASAP and many other things, that motivate and scare me.. ๐Ÿ˜†
#3 -- Great deal of patience is also required - while preparing, while writing exams, and much more is needed, if you fail in your first attempt. Mnetal strength is really put to test when one works hard, then fails... which brings me to another important thing - one must also be very persistant. never back down, never give up until you reach the goal. Also, a sincere disciplined lifestyle.
#4 -- Consistency - it's difficult, takes time and again, takes a great deal of motivation to fall into study-mode, so any little gap or break, will be a hindrance. Hence, never lose touch with your studies..no matter what happens!
...Mindbender, yes, there are sooo many things that distracts me, but, I am doing something these days while getting carried away is... STOP. Step back, think, I ask myself - is it anyway going to help me achieve my goal? *obviously not* ๐Ÿ˜ณ ..chalo, get back to your book ๐Ÿค“
Mindbender, because IDK what exactly might be swaying you, I'd like to add something that commonly sways everyone of our age, which has "swayed" me and ruined my mental health and screwed up my prep last year... I dont believe in friendships, nor do I trust anyone, nor am I interested in friending anyone, ofcourse I believe in being warm, friendly..just no attachments as I trust no one, so, as you can see, I dont and never want to get distracted in matters of personal relations. No phones, no messages, no hangouts, no nothing! And when I'm in college, I mostly spend time at library if no classes are going on.. all these are actually helping me, as I wasnt like this last year and my preparation was POOR comparatively.
so, what I realised is that.. sit with your books most of the time, when I am distracted, I am more intent on sitting for more time.. All I can say is, before your mind goes somewhere - step back and think. Before my mind goes anywhere, I think of a hard future, think of my goal and all the list of reasons why I have set my goal.
Also, while studying, I feel - making an analysis of what I've learnt, and how I can improve upon it in terms of language, viewpoints, keypoints, etc etc is necessary, or else your prep will be futile. For me, there has to be atleast little improvement as days pass by.
One more important thing is, i go back to everything I read..on a daily-basis and monthly basis.. No one in this world, atleast I cannot remember certain things if I read it once.
Thankfully, I have my Papa who always helps me, challenges me and guides me. Hope I pay back for all the pains he takes to read the stuff I do, just so that I can have someone to discuss my topics, subjects with.
I also keep saying to myself this great quote of Swami Vivekananda for my motivation ๐Ÿ˜› "Arise, awake, stop not till the goal is reached" ๐Ÿ˜ณ
Swaying with the wind... is not for me, although I am by nature very easy-going, but I have tuned myself like I said...swaying wont get me anywhere I'd like. My goal is my only wish...which'll make my other list of wishes come true ๐Ÿ˜† and it's the question of my life, I cannot do nakhre here :P ..just 3-4 years of commitment, once i reach my goal, I'll do so much nakhre then, sky's the limit after that ๐Ÿ˜†
Now, IDK if my approach to my preparation is the best, but I do believe in it as I dont think my devotion and commitment can be questioned. I have to be more focussed and leave I-F, hmmm.
I am so sorry for such a long post... ๐Ÿ˜ณ hope my post wasnt boring :(
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Originally posted by: mr.ass

thank god, I thought it was a stupid football topic ๐Ÿ˜›


Which was the best goal, huh? ๐Ÿ˜†

Originally posted by: mr.ass

Hi clodpod, long time since I have seen such an interesting topic. :) Heck, with all the wh**ehouse ads on this forum it's the only topic :P

Ha ha. The mods have been kept interested!

Anyway, let me speak about a recent experience of mine involving goal setting.

As some of you may know, I am pursuing my CA course and most recently I wrote the entrance test, ie the CPT aka common proficiency test.

I had made a plan to study 3 months before my exam. But and the end of it all, I had only been able to study one and a half months before it.

Let me examine the reasons why I strayed from my plan:
1. The portions were so simple I didn't feel challenged nor interested.
2.It had been such a long time since I studied so it was difficult for me to get back into study mode.
3. I had lots of distractions.

So I guess you need to really want to do it, or have something that makes you wanna do it, and you must be free from distractions. :)

Distractions do have a way of just emptying out when the drive is there, isn't it? :)
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

I'm sorry it has been unrewarding for you... but, dont give up.

I am ,also, a believer in the powers of persistence.
OK, so, where do i start? I have a goal.. in my life. I do think if I cannot achieve it, my life would end. And, it hasnt been a pleasant experience so far, there are times when I cry and feel hopeless when I fail to re-collect, when i waste too much time etc.

Is your aim Civils too?
#1 --
#2 --
#3 --
#4 --



...Mindbender, yes, there are sooo many things that distracts me, but, I am doing something these days while getting carried away is... STOP. Step back, think, I ask myself - is it anyway going to help me achieve my goal? *obviously not* ๐Ÿ˜ณ ..chalo, get back to your book ๐Ÿค“

Have you read any books on goal setting/self development? If not, I am just convinced yet again that if a person has a goal in mind, he automatically does everything that these books prescribe. If yes, then you are implementing everything next to perfectly, really! All your points (above and below ) point towards an unwavering focus as regards the academic front.
Mindbender, because IDK what exactly might be swaying you, I'd like to add something that commonly sways everyone of our age, which has "swayed" me and ruined my mental health and screwed up my prep last year... I dont believe in friendships, nor do I trust anyone, nor am I interested in friending anyone, ofcourse I believe in being warm, friendly..just no attachments as I trust no one, so, as you can see, I dont and never want to get distracted in matters of personal relations. No phones, no messages, no hangouts, no nothing! And when I'm in college, I mostly spend time at library if no classes are going on.. all these are actually helping me, as I wasnt like this last year and my preparation was POOR comparatively.

Why do you trust no one? Is it inherent or because it was broken?
Same question with regards social life (no phones, hangouts, etc). You've never had a very active social life? Or you had an active social life, and you quit?
If you find any question too personal, just ignore it and I'll understand. My intention while asking these questions is simply to understand more of where you are coming from. I always have a craving for understanding the context.

What I have observed thus far is that your reference throughout has been towards only academic goals. Its like, even among various goals, you have focused upon only one type of goal. But with me, this model doesn't work so well. I am quite convinced that study, while being an important part of life, is not the only part. I have goals in various areas of life, be it academic of course as well as personal development, social, etc. This is not to criticise you or to say that I am right and you are wrong; just giving you a peek of where I come from.
Swaying with the wind... is not for me, although I am by nature very easy-going, but I have tuned myself like I said...swaying wont get me anywhere I'd like. My goal is my only wish...which'll make my other list of wishes come true ๐Ÿ˜† and it's the question of my life, I cannot do nakhre here :P ..just 3-4 years of commitment, once i reach my goal, I'll do so much nakhre then, sky's the limit after that ๐Ÿ˜†

That's the whole point you know. I have an issue- I don't get motivated by thinking that if only I study for say so and so time I'll have my future in place, which will be secure and I'll lead a happily ever after life. It is ingrained in me presently that security is a myth. Change is the only thing that is constant and hence looking for security is actually prone to disaster.
Why do we have these goals after all? To achieve success in life, right? But money, fame, etc just don't seem to be able to have enough an influence on me. To me, everyone who gives his 100% in whatever he does is successful, simply because it means you have that calmness of mind and also giving your best implies you are improving everyday. By everyone, I really do mean everyone- be it a sweeper, farmer or businessman.
Now, IDK if my approach to my preparation is the best, but I do believe in it as I dont think my devotion and commitment can be questioned. I have to be more focussed and leave I-F, hmmm.

The pros and cons are for you to decide. :)
I am so sorry for such a long post... ๐Ÿ˜ณ hope my post wasnt boring :(

Anything but! It is always a delight to read insightful posts.

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I just wanna say, a goal without a plan is just a wish..

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Distractions do have a way of just emptying out when the drive is there, isn't it? :)


you said it. and whenever I have free time, all my favorite shows would have ended, all my friends will be busy, won't feel like reading books. ๐Ÿ˜†
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Mindbender, I hope I am not writing too much.. :( ...i just want to make myself clear to your questions. :):)

Originally posted by: Mindbender


Is your aim *GOAL* too? ...yes , yours too?!

Have you read any books on goal setting/self development? If not, I am just convinced yet again that if a person has a goal in mind, he automatically does everything that these books prescribe. If yes, then you are implementing everything next to perfectly, really! All your points (above and below ) point towards an unwavering focus as regards the academic front.
No, I didnt. Thanks a lot Mindbender :)

Why do you trust no one? Is it inherent or because it was broken? ..I trusted few people, and, IDK.. my trust for everyone except my parents, has ceased after being down for 1-2 months last year.. nothing BAD happened, but I'd say my EQ is fragile, and I have to find a way to keep myself happy, so I decided to put a full-stop to "frienships" :)
Same question with regards social life (no phones, hangouts, etc). You've never had a very active social life? Or you had an active social life, and you quit? IDK what exactly "social" means, but I'll try answering..I was never too social , friendly, yes.. but wasnt into socializing much, although I'd text few friends, hangout etc. I had a small circle of friends(7-9 people) and would be "social" with them. And now, I am just friendly face-to-face, it's my nature, I cant help it when someone approaches me. I have two "best friends", I admit, I cannot stop caring about 'em, however, I dont trust them or expect anything from them too. In short, I dont phone/hangout/gossip with anyone.. I do spend/waste loads of time going out, "hanging out", talking with amma-papa if that counts?
Plus, ever since I became serious, I find everything a waste of time.. if it is no way going to help me for my prep, or, personal dev or sth related to my mom-dad, I find everything a waste of time.. although sometimes I succumb to certain things like I-F, shopping, good novels ๐Ÿ˜ก

If you find any question too personal, just ignore it and I'll understand. No, no..I understand why you've asked :) I just hope I was able to make some sense! My intention while asking these questions is simply to understand more of where you are coming from. I always have a craving for understanding the context. ..

What I have observed thus far is that your reference throughout has been towards only academic goals. Its like, even among various goals, you have focused upon only one type of goal. But with me, this model doesn't work so well. I am quite convinced that study, while being an important part of life, is not the only part. I have goals in various areas of life, be it academic of course as well as personal development, social, etc. This is not to criticise you or to say that I am right and you are wrong; just giving you a peek of where I come from.
Personal development -- It's as equally as important as my prep for civils is. I read books, novels regularly...not the soppy waste-of-time ones, but good ones that enrich my general knowledge, even the ones that teach about life(like Anna Karenina, Notes From Underground, The Fifth Horseman etc) . And, yes, I wanna improve in my attitude towards life, in my way of thinking, my sense in fashion(yes ๐Ÿ˜†), looking at things, my health and, my communication skills especially! I'm poor in vocabulary, no wonder I write such long posts :( ...and all i can say is, I'm still on the lowest rung and I'm working on it. But somehow, GS, newspapers, magazines are taking top-most priority, in other words, dominate my goals in general.

Socialising -- I'm sorry, but I dont see what I'd get from it. :( ..maybe it's because of my EQ level. IDK..

That's the whole point you know. I have an issue- I don't get motivated by thinking that if only I study for say so and so time I'll have my future in place, which will be secure and I'll lead a happily ever after life. It is ingrained in me presently that security is a myth. Change is the only thing that is constant and hence looking for security is actually prone to disaster.

@ bold - Can you please elaborate? I wanna know your views on that.

Yes, ofcourse, money fame security are not going to make you happy. They are just like by-products of the career your going to LIVE through. Especially power and prestige. I am least bothered about power/prestige. Money, yes, I wanna travel the world, buy things for my parents, do loads of shopping ๐Ÿ˜ณ ... lol, but TBH, I also do want to contribute and do some social work, and, I have always wanted to know the life and culture of various countires, regions, especially the culture of the tribals... * MY GOAL* is the only place where I can exercise my wishes. Plus, I find even the preparation interesting(it's a WIDE range of different subjects put in a blender, so, I dont get bored at all - suits me well because I am very volatile and need variety all the time, my dad tells me that the post of an *** officer too exposes you to different things, is very much full of variety),
it's empowering, when I learn about different things everyday. And, these days, I am finding some sort of THRILL ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜ณ ..The happyness, feeling of empowerment - after finsihing off with sth, i find it thrilling while waiting for a few days before the new fresh magazines are realeased in the market every month๐Ÿ˜† and equally thrilling when I do test papers, and all... preparation isnt bad once you get engrossed in it. Bottomline to my motivation is I enjoy and love what I read, I love being occupied, and this is the best thing I can think of, not only does it help me professionally, but on personal front too, and dunno why, I feel secure when I read... not just academics, good books in general.
You know what, maybe my fragile EQ and the sadness and hurt I felt last year, also ignite the passion in me, because anytime when I remember those "bad" days and feel blue, hurt, I read more, i swear... I go mad and concentrate a loottt more than I usualy do. I'm still new to all this(just 6 months whilst being completely new to prep), and I have a long way to go..
PS - Security is definately a myth, but, it's real at the same time too ๐Ÿ˜› ..it's a myth because, no one, no where can be secure, anything can happen any minute. I hope this is what you meant.

Why do we have these goals after all? To achieve success in life, right? But money, fame, etc just don't seem to be able to have enough an influence on me. To me, everyone who gives his 100% in whatever he does is successful, simply because it means you have that calmness of mind and also giving your best implies you are improving everyday. By everyone, I really do mean everyone- be it a sweeper, farmer or businessman.
Totally agree :)
Now, IDK if my approach to my preparation is the best, but I do believe in it as I dont think my devotion and commitment can be questioned. I have to be more focussed and leave I-F, hmmm.

The pros and cons are for you to decide. :)
I am so sorry for such a long post... Embarrassed hope my post wasnt boring :(

Anything but! It is always a delight to read insightful posts.

Thankyou :)



Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 13 years ago
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you said it. and whenever I have free time, all my favorite shows would have ended, all my friends will be busy, won't feel like reading books. ๐Ÿ˜†

Oh common, it's the age of internet. Shows don't end anymore. ๐Ÿ˜†

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

Mindbender, I hope I am not writing too much.. :( ...i just want to make myself clear to your questions. :):)

I like reading. :)
Why do you trust no one? Is it inherent or because it was broken? ..I trusted few people, and, IDK.. my trust for everyone except my parents, has ceased after being down for 1-2 months last year.. nothing BAD happened, but I'd say my EQ is fragile, and I have to find a way to keep myself happy, so I decided to put a full-stop to "frienships" :)
Same question with regards social life (no phones, hangouts, etc). You've never had a very active social life? Or you had an active social life, and you quit? IDK what exactly "social" means, but I'll try answering..I was never too social , friendly, yes.. but wasnt into socializing much, although I'd text few friends, hangout etc. I had a small circle of friends(7-9 people) and would be "social" with them. And now, I am just friendly face-to-face, it's my nature, I cant help it when someone approaches me. I have two "best friends", I admit, I cannot stop caring about 'em, however, I dont trust them or expect anything from them too. In short, I dont phone/hangout/gossip with anyone.. I do spend/waste loads of time going out, "hanging out", talking with amma-papa if that counts?
Plus, ever since I became serious, I find everything a waste of time.. if it is no way going to help me for my prep, or, personal dev or sth related to my mom-dad, I find everything a waste of time.. although sometimes I succumb to certain things like I-F, shopping, good novels ๐Ÿ˜ก

I like the way how you observe yourself. Your choices seem to be conscious indeed (as you said you don't sway with the wind), so I am sure you are a great learner (not speaking academically).

Personal development -- It's as equally as important as my prep for civils is. I read books, novels regularly...not the soppy waste-of-time ones, but good ones that enrich my general knowledge, even the ones that teach about life(like Anna Karenina, Notes From Underground, The Fifth Horseman etc) . And, yes, I wanna improve in my attitude towards life, in my way of thinking, my sense in fashion(yes ๐Ÿ˜†), looking at things, my health and, my communication skills especially! I'm poor in vocabulary, no wonder I write such long posts :( ...and all i can say is, I'm still on the lowest rung and I'm working on it. But somehow, GS, newspapers, magazines are taking top-most priority, in other words, dominate my goals in general.

It is indeed nice to know that . Personal development, I think, can count as a very good hobby too.

Socialising -- I'm sorry, but I dont see what I'd get from it. :( ..maybe it's because of my EQ level. IDK..
Social goals don't necessarily mean socialising. They might mean the exact vice versa. ๐Ÿ˜†

it's empowering, when I learn about different things everyday. And, these days, I am finding some sort of THRILL ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜ณ ..The happyness, feeling of empowerment - after finsihing off with sth, i find it thrilling while waiting for a few days before the new fresh magazines are realeased in the market every month๐Ÿ˜† and equally thrilling when I do test papers, and all... preparation isnt bad once you get engrossed in it. Bottomline to my motivation is I enjoy and love what I read, I love being occupied, and this is the best thing I can think of, not only does it help me professionally, but on personal front too, and dunno why, I feel secure when I read... not just academics, good books in general.
You know what, maybe my fragile EQ and the sadness and hurt I felt last year, also ignite the passion in me, because anytime when I remember those "bad" days and feel blue, hurt, I read more, i swear... I go mad and concentrate a loottt more than I usualy do. I'm still new to all this(just 6 months whilst being completely new to prep), and I have a long way to go..

I have nothing to add really. Just keep it up!
(That thrill is all that I am chasing I think. It struck a chord.)
PS - Security is definately a myth, but, it's real at the same time too ๐Ÿ˜›
Is it me speaking? :P

..it's a myth because, no one, no where can be secure, anything can happen any minute. I hope this is what you meant.
Yup, that's the essence.

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