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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pradarshak

I have recently came across this information written by Dadabhai Naoroji. I am an ordinary person and my views might not appeal to all. But I hope when this man who was also known as "Grand old man of India" and was also a mentor to Gandhi said something there must be some weight in it. He lived the era we are talking about and was well aware of the social-political scenario.

You didn't get anyone apart from Dadabhai Naoroji. 😕 He was a staunch moderate, li'l wonder there he'll praise the British for their (non-existent) contributions. He is the Grand old man and his visions were grand old too. Infact under him Gandhi started his career as a moderate demanding that Britain grant India partial independence.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

This is what I meant in my previous post.

If not English then Indians would have been forced to converse in Persian or Arabic which is not our language either. I don't consider English an alien language now because when the country were divided into provinces most spoke their mother tongue so any other Indian language is as alien as English to them.

I find it extremely difficult to brand one single language as Indian. So many languages are spoken widely in India that it is practically impossible for two Indians to converse in a common language.

I have no solution to offer in this regard. We truly are 'United in diversity'.

If the muslims successfully imposed Arabic and Urdu and the British imposed English on us then why the Indian Govt. can't impose something. Say if the Govt. imposed Sanskrit then in 60 yrs time most people would have learned it and all Govt. files would have been translated.

And as I said even when they go to international meets, Indians never make an effort to speak in their native language. Forget about their mother toungue, those dignitaries all know hindi then why couldn't they atleast speak in hindi which is our national language.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

ya but the point here is that they did not have our wellbeing in their mind whn they did this so they r not some kind of saints.

People can create rift only when there is scope.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

If the muslims successfully imposed Arabic and Urdu and the British imposed English on us then why the Indian Govt. can't impose something. Say if the Govt. imposed Sanskrit then in 60 yrs time most people would have learned it and all Govt. files would have been translated.

Because Indian government is no barbarian. We live in a democracy and no one can impose anything on us.

Don't you think that it is impractical to even ask Indians to speak in Sanskrit when even 50% of the Hindus can't converse in it?

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Posted: 18 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Because Indian government is no barbarian. We live in a democracy and no one can impose anything on us.

Don't you think that it is impractical to even ask Indians to speak in Sanskrit when even 50% of the Hindus can't converse in it?

thats the irony.if u go to germany u wont get a person who do nt knw german or a japnese dosent knw japnese it wil be ridiculous, but in india it will be comman that people dont knw hindi.

many people got converted to christians so they learnt english then many studied abroad so they learnt english then as britishers started the education system they had set the syllabus so naturally they taught in english so as to facilitate their children so enlish stayed here after them.

but as enlish is an international language and we r good at it so it is an advantage to us.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sandya_rao7

[Quote=Maya_M] People can create rift only when there is scope. [/quote]ya but the point here is that they did not have our wellbeing in their mind whn they did this so they r not some kind of saints.

I never argued that British were Saint. What I meant was that there was already anough animosity it just needed the fuel.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

Because Indian government is no barbarian. We live in a democracy and no one can impose anything on us.

Don't you think that it is impractical to even ask Indians to speak in Sanskrit when even 50% of the Hindus can't converse in it?

For the moment lets forget about the common people and the numerous languages of India. You didn't answer my main question, why do people who know Hindi doesn't speak in Hindi at an international meet??

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

For the moment lets forget about the common people and the numerous languages of India. You didn't answer my main question, why do people who know Hindi doesn't speak in Hindi at an international meet??

May be because English is also an official language of India.

I can't speak for them but I am sure that I won't speak in Malayalam at my kid's PTA meeting. 😳

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I am pretty irritated and hence this is not going to be a lucid post. in fact, thoughts will be all over the place. also a BIG "NVMD ☢️👎🏼" ALERT here. Enter at ur own risk 😉😉😉

1. we are benefited because of english education without a doubt. (we cannot forget that it was not meant for us when it started)
2. we are benefited by significant reduction in SATI practice (enforced by the British, yet as Soro said visioned by several Indians such as RRMRoy)
3. British divided us more than we ever required and ruled on us.
4. British unified us before leaving, and i cannot thank them for that. 😡 We are a FORCED unity in diversity. we mean it only when we are up against a foreign power.
we dont have a common language, we are much too diverse.
5. Partition was a huge disaster that we all complain about even till date. Forced unification was a bigger disaster in my 4 eyes. We may have been peaceful being smaller and segragated states. Lack of Sovereignity and dependency would have BROUGHT us WILLINGLY together over couple of years post independence. Some of us would have progressed and some digressed. I feel that ones unable to progress sometimes drag the entire country along to be a proud member of third world 🤢
I know this is very biassed and immature, but the lack of real unity (except in face of war) and excessive regionalism makes me wonder all the above.
Edited by mermaid_QT - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Maya_M

I never argued that British were Saint. What I meant was that there was already anough animosity it just needed the fuel.

ok but wht was the need for them to add fuel ?now also hey dont do anything to stop this animosity. on the contrary they add to it.

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