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Do you guys think in an open forum, where the visitors are from different age groups, the explicit contents shall be banned? 🤔



Hail to Internet... the place where, Men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Define explicit content in Open Forum?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monar

Do you guys think in an open forum, where the visitors are from different age groups, the explicit contents shall be banned? 🤔




Technically as long as you limit registration to over 13, demarcate explicit content clearly, you are safe under most international laws. So It really depends on the forum, its members and what they deem as explicit content.

Communities like 4Chan and Somethingawful allow any explicit content. The only rule is that nothing illegal and non work safe images should be in specific forums.

A lot of forums will allow explicit written content, but prohibit explicit imagery.

Then you have a large group of forums that are conservative and sensitive to explicit content. India Forums is one of them. It makes a conscious decision to even censor words like fcuk to monitor language.

There are even some forums where your av would be considered offensive.

To really understand 'explicit' in the context of modern day internet, I refer people to the FanFiction.net decision of 2002. Basically they decided to prohibit NC-17, or explicit content, which would be graphic literary po*n. Their allowance of M rating is deemed to be appropriate for a site that has users of varying age groups, nationality and culture. Go read an M fiction and some will sure make IF members blush in embarrassment and wonder if it should be reported as NC-17. Then if you dare go read NC-17 fan fiction, most IF members will probably have a massive cardiac arrest. An important thing to keep in mind is that a lot of fanfiction is written by teenagers, especially in the Harry Potter and Twilight section you have 13-14 year old girls often writing explicit content.

I personally don't believe in internet censorship. A forum is just a forum. It does not have the responsibility to babysit, supervise and monitor children online. Parent's have a responsibility to raise their children right, and hopefully prepare them to appropriately handle many difficult situations they will come across online. I don't believe in 4Chan's philosophy where they will intentionally mess with kids, I do believe that forums have responsibility in preventing undue harm to younger audience. However, that responsibility is not in censorship but in maturity when a challenging situation comes up. If you shut down a difficult topic, you have not protected a kid, but compelled them to go discuss it in a more dangerous and misinformative environment. But if you can take a difficult topic and turn it into teachable moments and serious life choices people face, you have given a kid more reliable information to mull about.

The most successful online forums are those that focus their rules on hate speech, flaming, and trolling rather than censorship. But ultimately you go by the community rules. I'm just glad I ain't mod no more to have to make that ethical call.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monar

Do you guys think in an open forum, where the visitors are from different age groups, the explicit contents shall be banned? 🤔



Hail to Internet... the place where, Men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.

Sometimes I open the fridge and stare at the contents for no reason at all, just like I do with IF now a days!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posting messages that display or link to po*nographic or sexually offensive material. Posting sexually suggestive materials or graphic intimate details of sexual nature whether in story form or while discussing an episode will not be allowed. Debates on subjects which are sensitive and adult will be closely monitored for content. Any topic containing videos, pictures, articles or individual postings by members on Nudity, discussions or postings related to any kind of nudity or po*n, and not deemed fit for an universal audience will be closed and trashed and warnings given. It also applies to published articles. Whether any such topic is appropriate in a section will be decided by the Dev Team and the decision of the Dev Team on any such kind of topic shall be final
This is a portion from this forum's COC...which applies to our DM as
well...so no one is throwing out the morally and the ethically sensitive people out from the DM😆
Although this is an open forum ...its bound by its rules and regulations and a very detailed COC...
I choose to come on this forum because it is moderated and at the end of the day discussing everything here is not allowed...the day this forum becomes open to everything I will choose not to come here...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -ZestfulNirvana

I agree with RTH.


The reason I came up a 'bold' post was due the fact that this section in particular have always had members dealt with topics considered almost abhorrent by society (specifically Indian) in a sophisticated way. Although, I guess it was a bit too daring and I do apologize for it.

I really don't consider my post 'explicit' in content as they did not mean anything offensive to anybody in person. Everybody are entitled to them in real life. We fantasize within but fail to discuss in open. I do agree the amount of personal restraint associated with it. But, why not discuss them in a generic sense so that they serve as an awareness to ignorant visitors ?

However, it is pointless to let go of such topics merely because the forum belongs to people of all age groups considering their emotional aversions. Viewers discretion needs to be advised. And the debate forum is meant to toss aside all sorts of morally and ethically sensitive people.







I don't think you meant any harm or offense, but one part of being in any community is being sensitive to the majority consensus. The fact is that the community on India forums is more conservative. They are not morally or ethically sensitive, they were raised in a culture where certain lines are drawn and pushing these boundaries is disrespectful to cultural sensitivities.

To a certain extent, some perceptions and behaviors do need to be changed. However, you can't just come in and expect people to abandon the moral culture they hold onto in jiffy.

Personally, I'm a libertarian and against censorship, but at the same time I try to keep in mind what environment I am in. Sometimes I do offend and disrespect moral sensibilities unwittingly, and in some cases I probably come across as a heartless soulless beast, but I think if we make a conscious effort to understand and respect other people's moral sensitivities, they become more open to understand and respect why we perceive things differently and we can come to a common ground of compromise.

So next time you want to push the envelope on any forum, really think twice about who the general audience is, what culture they subscribe to and focus on finding that common ground of compromise rather than pushing the envelope only towards how you think it should be.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Define explicit content in Open Forum?



which you don't want 10 year old to read?!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monar



which you don't want 10 year old to read?!



Then we don't have to worry about being explicit, 10 year olds are not supposed to be on IF. 😛 😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -ZestfulNirvana

I agree with RTH.


The reason I came up a 'bold' post was due the fact that this section in particular have always had members dealt with topics considered almost abhorrent by society (specifically Indian) in a sophisticated way. Although, I guess it was a bit too daring and I do apologize for it.

chill man,nothing to apologize, my topic is generic too. I want to know if people are appreciating the "bold" stuff here. and what degree of "boldness" they are fine with.


I really don't consider my post 'explicit' in content as they did not mean anything offensive to anybody in person. Everybody are entitled to them in real life. We fantasize within but fail to discuss in open. I do agree the amount of personal restraint associated with it. But, why not discuss them in a generic sense so that they serve as an awareness to ignorant visitors ?

"explicit" is generic, and if you say only images can make things explicit, there wouldn't be much market for Mills & Boons. What you do in bedroom shall remain in bedroom. there is a reason why it isn't allowed in parks or public places? that said, These kind of fantasies shall be avoid to force to 12/13 years. "Ignorance"? then we need a Kamasutra section in IF.. and no mods.

However, it is pointless to let go of such topics merely because the forum belongs to people of all age groups considering their emotional aversions. Viewers discretion needs to be advised. And the debate forum is meant to toss aside all sorts of morally and ethically sensitive people.

true that, and I strongly suggest to have viewer discretion for this forum then.



looks like you had hard time in IF with some mushy gushy serials :-).
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



Then we don't have to worry about being explicit, 10 year olds are not supposed to be on IF. 😛 😆




oh I never knew that rule.. I saw some fan girls from that age group. How did they manage to add themselves? IF dont force you to put year of ur birth? right?

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