Genocide

Rwanda, Germany, Cambodia, and Sudan. 4 different countries with different cultures but interlinked with one word, one heinous word-Genocide. What are your opinions about this? What should the UN and the leading nations be doing against this? Can the victims ever be compensated for their torturous experiences? Plz do share.

Originally posted by: debayon

Rwanda, Germany, Cambodia, and Sudan. 4 different countries with different cultures but interlinked with one word, one heinous word-Genocide. What are your opinions about this? What should the UN and the leading nations be doing against this? Can the victims ever be compensated for their torturous experiences? Plz do share.

PS: No this is not a school project.😆

Its terrible. Someone should definitely stop it, but the questions becomes who and how. The UN can't do anything ... they say they can and pretend they can, but not until someone actually goes to these nations and physically stops the violence and the killings, nothing will happen. A few years ago, the genocide in Rwanda and Sudan was a big deal, we held a school event, did fundraisers, and raised awareness for it. But its become old news now, media doesn't cover it and so people forget and pretend as though everything is all good now.

As far as compensating victims go, you can't bring their loved ones back from the dead, and neither can you take away memories from there where they watched their loved ones die. What you can do is attempt to stop similar future occurrences - but again, the question becomes how do you stop it.

P.S. This better not be a school project!! I was looking for a good debate in that organized religion topic, and that was a school project. 😡

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Its terrible. Someone should definitely stop it, but the questions becomes who and how. The UN can't do anything ... they say they can and pretend they can, but not until someone actually goes to these nations and physically stops the violence and the killings, nothing will happen. A few years ago, the genocide in Rwanda and Sudan was a big deal, we held a school event, did fundraisers, and raised awareness for it. But its become old news now, media doesn't cover it and so people forget and pretend as though everything is all good now.

As far as compensating victims go, you can't bring their loved ones back from the dead, and neither can you take away memories from there where they watched their loved ones die. What you can do is attempt to stop similar future occurrences - but again, the question becomes how do you stop it.

P.S. This better not be a school project!! I was looking for a good debate in that organized religion topic, and that was a school project. 😡

The UN= the US= another Iraq and Afghanistan. That is probably the main reason why the UN isn't doing anything. Obviously it learnt it's lesson from Somalia and 9/11. The problem that arises is that why does it have to be mostly American troops who have to fight US battles? China has like 900 nukes, why can't it beat the living hell outta the Khmer Rouge, Al-Qaida etc... And the other members like France, Italy, Russia etc... Yes, I agree that it has become old news, and people don't care, but the point is when was it news EVER? People would just turn on the news, say "Oh, that's terrible" and go back to eating their meals again. Fortunately, Amanpour had done a documentary called "Scream Bloody Murder', which is pretty interesting actually.

Originally posted by: debayon

The UN= the US= another Iraq and Afghanistan. That is probably the main reason why the UN isn't doing anything. Obviously it learnt it's lesson from Somalia and 9/11. The problem that arises is that why does it have to be mostly American troops who have to fight US battles? China has like 900 nukes, why can't it beat the living hell outta the Khmer Rouge, Al-Qaida etc... And the other members like France, Italy, Russia etc... Yes, I agree that it has become old news, and people don't care, but the point is when was it news EVER? People would just turn on the news, say "Oh, that's terrible" and go back to eating their meals again. Fortunately, Amanpour had done a documentary called "Scream Bloody Murder', which is pretty interesting actually.

@ bold: completely agreed. You spoke my mind.

PS: Yeah, that's why I posted the disclaimer also.😆

If American troops won't fight US battles then who will? 😕 ohh ... I think you meant UN battles maybe? Haha, that's funny though ... "UN battles", when UN promotes world peace. Okay sorry, couldn't help it there. 😆

The problem is that you can't just go into a nation and kill 'em all bad guys, how do you differentiate? Do we want another Iraq/Afghanistan here ... where thousands of innocent people died to take the lives of that one group of people?

Yeah, its hard to instill awareness in people. Media sells whatever's hot, and apparently Tiger Woods is presently hotter than any genocide. (Sorry, that sounds crude.)

Haha, thanks for the disclaimer!

Look at the bright side, they are exterminated in the 1st generation itself, not like some other places where they are made to feel of a lower denomination for centuries

Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Look at the bright side, they are exterminated in the 1st generation itself, not like some other places where they are made to feel of a lower denomination for centuries

Oh, wow, bashing people's heads open with a baseball bat and then skinning their heads to hang them on temples isn't enough, there's a bright side?

Originally posted by: debayon

Oh, wow, bashing people's heads open with a baseball bat and then skinning their heads to hang them on temples isn't enough, there's a bright side?

Excrutiating pain for a few minutes vs suffocating pain for the entire life😉

Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Excrutiating pain for a few minutes vs suffocating pain for the entire life😉

life vs death😉

Genocide is not a problem unique to the modern world. The examples you site are more recent known examples which have become a significant human rights issue. Human history is littered with examples of such mass murders for social, political, ethnic and religious issues. From the systematic purging under the Holy Roman Empire to the Spanish inquisition. From the eccentricities of Caligula, to the eccentricities of Vladislav Tepes. From Salem witch trials to modern day neo nazi hunters.

What should the UN be doing? That is a difficult question to answer. The UN is touted as a cooperative peace keeping force, but its powers and actions are very limited. There is very little that can be done about genocide, because the UN as an entity lacks the capacity to understand the intricacies of the situation to control it.

The best we can do is offer monetary compensation, refuge and try and educate. Interference with peacekeeping forces may sound noble, but the situation is so delicate it could snowball into something even worse.

As cruel as it might sound sometimes genocide is better than some of the alternatives. Survivors of Nazi concentration camps, refugees from Africa often cite that they would have much preferred death over the rape and torture.