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saki

@sakisaki

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Posted: 16 years ago

#161

Originally posted by: anuradhasharma

please keep religion out of dis topic....

the fight is between terriosm + dere suppoters and humanity.......

burka is religious for muslims....and our country respect all religions.....

@ sakisaki

m not against paki citizens......but m against the extremists existing in pak....and running camps in pak...brain washing & training youngsters to become terriost...........dey hv brain washed dese youngsters so much dat dey cant see wats right and wats wrong..........dey hv teached dem in such a way dat dey see each and every human (not related to dere religion ) as dere enemies...........dey just kill widut relising wat dey hv done......

acc to Mr. zardari ...dere gove is not at all involved in dese attacks...and even he is a victim of dese terriost...his wife has been killed....

even pak is facing terriosm dese days....

why??...becose of dese extrimst............who r damaging ur country also......

and dis is our concern also....becoze ...its affecting us also...dese terriost r killing indians also.....

Kasab who is caught in mumbai terror attack said dat "he has no regrets".........u can very well imagine to wat extent his brain is washed by dese terror groups............

acc to ur media ..pak govt and pak army is also fighting wid dese groups widin pak and i thing dis is really a good step by pak govt....dats why dese terror groups r now against pak also...so dey r killing innocents at ur end also...............

but wen i saw dat ur media is making fun of mumbai situation .......i cried....my eyes filled wid tears.....how cud anyone say dese things....so many ppl were hostages dere ...and our comandoes were fighting dese terriost bravely......trying to save dose hostages....and pak media making fun of our comandos??....

"It's really a bad comment by Ms. Mamon . Are the countries mad to kill there own people. They are telling that US and India themself killed people " dis is sooo ridiculous....

and the thing u r toking abut nuclear war.....ur nuclear wepons.........pray to God dat nuclear war never happen in present or future...cozz its gonna affect only on innocents civilians.........

Anu i agree with you !! there are terrorists in pakistan !! and thats the reason pakistan faced the terrorism so much i agree with you on that 100 percent but goo through the old posts here and in other thread should india trust pakistan.

I honestly came here to share this all pain and i really felt bad ! My mum extra prayed for all those innocent people who died and their families and i came here i saw all thsi crap going on about pakistanis not pakistani extremists but people are saying stuff to whole bloody nation 😕😕 first i tried to explain but i gt comments on myself and very harsh ones 😆😆 you no there is a limit.😆

Extremists are everywhere in the world. Eurpeans and Usa all western states have nave NAZIS africans have rebels and other groups india has Hindu, Christian muslim extremists. So does pakistan thats why
pakistan faced so much terroism and nothing is hidden frm you.

Now why are these people blamming whole nations???

If pakistanis really were terrorists why they prevented UK from another disaster from happening???
ISI caught a man he was british citizen and he was GORA not desi and he was member of alqaida.
ISI caught him and they gt all the information frm him and told british security agents about it.
They even told how are they going to do this.

This is called intelligence and thats how you prevent yourself from failure.
Now why would pakistan do that with mumbai in situation like this ????? they gain what??
they want hate frm indians???? nooo pakistani acconomy is trash and the fact is pakistanis need
the friendship of india not dushmani
then why would they do that?? why would the public want to do that???

and no i never started these harsh comments ok !! they are here from the start and started by indian members !! from the very first post 😆😆😆

and about the camps !!
yes there are camps in pakistan

there are no camps on normal civilized areas !!
only in waziristan where pakistani forces are already fighting them

camps cant be made in civilized areas offcourse people wont let them

Edited by sakisaki - 16 years ago

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Morgoth

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Posted: 16 years ago

#162

Originally posted by: sakisaki

if you gnna start on insulting religions thnn i can cross my limits 2 and that gnna hurt you in ur butt even moree sooo leave religion out of it !! i respect all the religions and i respect all the holy places of erry religion
sooo you better dont goo over there😃😃 talk about countries here and stay derr 😃

oh but i am not insulting religions :) i am criticizing the double standards of certain extremists who restrict women's rights based on their interpretation of a religion, but still install satellite dishes on their roof terraces to watch scantily clad belly-dancing girls from Lebanon and Egypt.

they have also suggested a "one-eye" niqaab for women in KSA recently. try searching for it on arab news and you'll know.

the burkha is not prescribed by the qur'an. the burkha is a cultural measure implemented by the turks. but i'm sure you know that already. the quran prescribes modest dress - and that varies from culture to culture.

if you still believe i am insulting religion, go on, try insulting mine - once you figure out what it is.

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saki

@sakisaki

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Posted: 16 years ago

#163

Originally posted by: Morgoth

oh but i am not insulting religions :) i am criticizing the double standards of certain extremists who restrict women's rights based on their interpretation of a religion, but still install satellite dishes on their roof terraces to watch scantily clad belly-dancing girls from Lebanon and Egypt.

they have also suggested a "one-eye" niqaab for women in KSA recently. try searching for it on arab news and you'll know.

the burkha is not prescribed by the qur'an. the burkha is a cultural measure implemented by the turks. but i'm sure you know that already. the quran prescribes modest dress - and that varies from culture to culture.

if you still believe i am insulting religion, go on, try insulting mine - once you figure out what it is.

noo you went to the muslim holy land of saudi arabia !! you should go there because i never said anything about any religion go check my posts. I respect all the religions and for me the religions are there to make human a better human not to divide each other. So dont talk about any religion

2nd about women in islam
go and read the WOMEN RIGHTS in islam on wikipedia !!

a women or girls DO NOT have to wear full niqb cover face and everything NOOOOOo
In islam Women can show her face her hands
Women can even do make up
But yes women have to cover the head thats important in islam
BUT PEOPLE who tell there females to cover face everything they cann its there problem
they are wrong FOR ME THEY ARE WRONG they are not good or true muslims.
Yes in saudi arabia things are very very strict and thats the reason the curruption rate in saudi arabia is on the lowest in the world.

But for me the full burqa thing is WRONG so again dont go blame whole nation of muslim for that.
There are people in every religion who give a religion a totally different shape.

In every religion i can criticized each and everyone but no religions all should be respected without criticizing.

then you can tell me what your religion is !! you dont have to hide it from me !!
if ur not ashamed of it 😛😛

and your name telles MORGOTH you are very anti religion 😆😆😆 as morgoth was the evil in Middle earth universe 😆

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Morgoth

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Posted: 16 years ago

#164

Originally posted by: sakisaki

noo you went to the muslim holy land of saudi arabia !! you should go there

No thanks. Have lived there long enough.

because i never said anything about any religion go check my posts. I respect all the religions and for me the religions are there to make human a better human not to divide each other. So dont talk about any religion

i'm not talking abt a religion. i'm talking about extremists within a religion. there's a difference. Just as people here are not criticizing pakistan as a country, but extremist groups within pakistan.

2nd about women in islam
go and read the WOMEN RIGHTS in islam on wikipedia !!

a women or girls DO NOT have to wear full niqb cover face and everything NOOOOOo
In islam Women can show her face her hands
Women can even do make up
But yes women have to cover the head thats important in islam

BUT PEOPLE who tell there females to cover face everything they cann its there problem
they are wrong FOR ME THEY ARE WRONG they are not good or true muslims.

isn't that what the burkha's essential function is? to cover the face? that is what i was criticizing. and that is what the muttawa'in in KSA do - they harrass women who don't cover their faces.

Yes in saudi arabia things are very very strict and thats the reason the curruption rate in saudi arabia is on the lowest in the world.

ROFL.

sure. In theory.

In reality, everything works the way it does in south asia - on influence.

Why do you think there are instances like the Qatif girl? because the justice system is pathetic. even saudis are protesting against it - if they are not jailed for "treason to the mamlak." if you don't believe me, read up blogs like Saudi Jeans or Nzhinga - they are written by Saudi Muslims.

But for me the full burqa thing is WRONG so again dont go blame whole nation of muslim for that.
There are people in every religion who give a religion a totally different shape.

LOL. Who has blamed Islam or even an Islamic nation? I made a mention of muttawa'in (who are simply a govt agency promoting the burkha) and you lost your temper.

Just remember - criticism of any religion or country does not mean anyone is spreading hate.

I am no longer going to make comments on this thread. You need to calm down a bit and read everything objectively.

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@TheRowdiest

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Posted: 16 years ago

#165

Originally posted by: sakisaki

aho ta ferr je punjabi aa te jaa oo video wekh je ma tainu diti c !!

jaa pehlaan information le about islam

even women is equal in islam at some places the right of women are protected very strictly.
thats why dont just listen what you hear on media go search for urself and read the rules of islam.
Sikhism and Islam both are based on 70 percent same rules.
Because Guru Nanak was born in Muslim area one of his closest teachers were muslim.

Thats why muslim Saints are menshioned in Guru Garant
Baba Farid was great muslim Sufi saint and how he was mentioned in Guru Granth
Read the words of Guru Nanak about a who REAL MUSLIM IS !! the perfect man.

You can find it all on wikipedia of several sikh sites
and offcourse the treatmen of women according to ISLAMIC law the real islamic law not the TALIBAN LAW ok go and read it.

about burkha !! covering the face isnt important in islam YOU DONT HAVE To do this but you can do it but you dont have to but yes what you have to do it cover your head and hair specially in presence of MEN.

and same is in SIkhism cover your head and wear proper clothes when men are there ok

So juzz leave the religion out of here i told you i respect all religions.

i cant stoop low as like u and u said in other reply u can also criticise other religions .....waise i cant even expect PARISE frm u😆......brainless Bacchi 😉

i can reply to ur post but i wont , bhains ke aage been bajane ka kya faayeda😆 I really dont care abt ppl like u , till u guys harm my NATION

but i wanna reply to the bold parts

first thing DO NOT think u have knowlege of whole world, I WILL ADVISE U TO go first and know abt other religions then talk, and tell me one thing actually as u know so called so much😉.......If u r a true muslim then why u read abt other religions😆😉

u know what does EQUALITY MEAN???? then u must know that if we cover heads to respect our guru its NOT ONLY WOMEN BUT MEN TOO......we have nothing ONLY FOR WOMEN EVERYTHING FOR BOTH and covering head is to respect guru by each and everyone, even other religion ppl come they also cover.........

second who the hell told u MY religion is 70% based on islam......😆.....first learn then speak......

waise as u think u have knowledge of everything ...when u r starting classes of brainwash😉....r u fully trained or abhi training baaki hai😉......how many more "BACCHE" r there???????

just to proove ur points i will suggest u dont stoop that low.........better come to the point abt pakistan behind these terror attacks in mumbai......if u have nothing to say then keep quit ........simple is that..........u cant get clean chit for pak by just typing without logics

anyways i m intersted talking only with Humans........😉

Edited by Rajeev Ki Heer - 16 years ago

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Nupur

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Posted: 16 years ago

#166

This Saki character is plain idiot.....& very inappropriate person.

Lets not waste our energies on this character.

Again I repeat...THIS IS THE INDIA forums...

As Indians we have a right to express our anguish and bitterness for the massacre...

Anyone who has contrary views...take them someplace else....where there are many more like yourself.

Don't try and lecture us here....

I think we need to stop replying to this idiot

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Golden iron

@Golden iron

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Posted: 16 years ago

#167

this is indeed a shameful event and about time we learn from our mistakes. Although we have lost incredible brave people, but good thing that came out of it that every single person is determined to see some result now. More glad to see that it is Indians who are fighting together...be it Hindu, muslim , sikh or christian. All are together. Very proud of Indian muslims who are sharing the sorrow of their motherland as all of us. They have made it clear taht there is no place of hatered in a religion.

Let us fight this terrorism together 👏

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Golden iron

@Golden iron

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Posted: 16 years ago

#168

Originally posted by: Nupur9

This Saki character is plain idiot.....& very inappropriate person.

Lets not waste our energies on this character.

Again I repeat...THIS IS THE INDIA forums...

As Indians we have a right to express our anguish and bitterness for the massacre...

Anyone who has contrary views...take them someplace else....where there are many more like yourself.

Don't try and lecture us here....

I think we need to stop replying to this idiot

let us only discuss aftermath now and impact of this.

remeber the saying: Kutte ke bhonkne se hathi nahi ruka karte.

During school time I hated these muhawarre. Now I understand them better and love them 😆😆

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saki

@sakisaki

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Posted: 16 years ago

#169

Originally posted by: Morgoth

you lived there but ur are not living there !! i meant to say dont mention holy places of ny religion !!

your saying people here arent criticizing paksitan ?? but terrorists rite??? if i show you places where people criticized the whole nation !! what thenn??goo readdd comments from ur own people first !!! 😆😆😆
and dude am very calmmm buh people here are not !! 😆😆 they started attackin religion and getting personall 😆😆😆 buh thats fun

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Golden iron

@Golden iron

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Posted: 16 years ago

#170

Following a visit to Pakistan, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice declared that the Pakistani government has pledged to cooperate
in rounding up suspects of the Mumbai terror attacks who operated
from Pakistani territory or were of Pakistani origin.

According to reports sourced from news agencies and published in
EXPRESS INDIA today (http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/US-
India-Weve-proof-of-ISI-role-in-Mumbai-attacks/394263/):

**Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, who was
in Pakistan on Wednesday, is believed to have told his Pakistani
interlocutors that Washington had enough evidence to show a
Pakistani hand in the attack, the sources said.

**Sources also refuse to believe that the Pakistani army did not
have knowledge of the Mumbai operation given that ISI is controlled
by it.

**At the same time, sources do not believe that the civilian
government in Pakistan is involved in the attack. In fact, one view
is that the civilian government itself may be a target of the strike
which may be used by the army to heighten tensions with India to
return to power

Thus, the crucial question is: Does Pakistan's government have the
ability to go after the suspects of the Mumbai carnage wilthout
civil authority regaining effective control over Pakistan's army and
the ISI? With Pakistan so heavily dependent on American largess both
for military supplies and social and economic sustenance and with
Pakistan's finances in intensive care under IMF's supervision, can
there be a better time for America to exercise its powerful leverage
to get the military (and ISI) ensconced securely under civilian
control?

Friends of both India and Pakistan in the US need to impress upon
Congress that NOW is the time to make Pakistan's democracy secure
and safe from any future threats of a military take over. Once that
task is accomplished, it will be easier to prepare and execute a
strategy to finish off the terrorists. Without fulfilling this
precondition, nothing can stop Pakistan from continuing to be the
epicenter of terrrorism in the world.

It's NOW or NEVER.

The US India Political Action Committee (USINPAC) has formulated an
action plan to respond rapidly to the terrorist attacks in Mumbai.
The action plan includes working with several key Members of
Congress to develop an effective response from the US, supporting a
Congressional Resolution condemning the attacks, supporting US-India
counter-terrorism legislation, and organizing a Congressional
Briefing on the origins of the terrorist attacks and the best way
for the US to proceed. Further, USINPAC has launched a petition
calling for changes in US aid to Pakistan to be signed by Indian
Americans across the country. The petition will be presented to
Congress.

USINPAC spoke with India Caucus Co-Chair Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA),
who will be authoring a Congressional Resolution condemning the
attacks. It has said it will help Rep. McDermott gain Congressional
support for the resolution. Further, it will work with Rep.
McDermott to organize a Congressional Briefing on the terror attacks
as soon as Congress is back in session. It's important to gain
Congressional support for US-India counter-terrorism legislation
being authored by Rep. Steve Israel (D-NY).

We need to get massive participation on this petition to demonstrate
to the US Congress and the administration the anger, pain, and
desire for action on the issue of terror camps in Pakistan that is
being felt by the Indian American community. Please read and then
sign the petition immediately to reflect your response to the Mumbai
Attacks and forward it to at least 10 people you know!

To access the petition, please visit
http://www.petitiononline.com/USINPAC9/petition.html

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