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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: -Sneha

Ankit, why am I not surprised to see you?

Oh no not again... Check ALL the old threads, I've already explained those to you a THOUSAND times.

Just to add one thing, if he wanted to go into direction, he should have participated in Big Boss or some reality show that would showcase his acting talent. Dance India Dance was for India's DANCING star, not India's Upcoming Bollywood star. Before twisting and turning my words like you always have, check out some facts. For starters, the name of the show?

Yes, so have all the others, I haven't named anyone that hasn't struggled as far as I recall! As soon as you find that, let me know...

And I am as proud as Dharmesh as I am of Jai. For the sincere refreshment of your memory, I said I was looking forward to what Dharmesh would offer as choreography. Dharmesh and Jai are so far my top two for this season, Jai having a slight edge due to his group dances, and his ability to choreograph various forms (since last episode Dharmesh couldn't live up to Ballroom dancing AT ALL!) but that could slip anytime of course, as soon as Dharmesh shows something better or Jai slips behind.

By the way, my favorite duet on this show so far is by Dharmesh too: the Nahi Samne one. That was a stroke of brilliance!

So yes, for me, Jai and Dharmesh have been more successful than Salman for sure. They've taken up what they came for, and made a name for themselves in that field. Today, people get excited when Jai or Dharmesh have to choreograph something and wait for their choreography to see what's new, innovative or interesting. To them, DID wasn't just a platform to Bollywood, it was their passion, bloody and soul to show for dance. And that's something I bow down to. I am sorry if you don't agree, because I can't explain better than this. But then, I just think you will, since Dharmesh is in there too. Or are you a greater Salman fanatic?

I just happen to nurture and appreciate true talent over my personal favorites. Irrespective of their gender, caste, religion, skin color or stature, I voice out names that I think are deserving. I don't see why it should be otherwise or why I further need to justify my reasoning.


I'd just give you one advice. Stop feeling insecure about Jai or targeting him each time. Remember Shakti from last season? True talent gets recognized or appreciated anywhere Ankit... A few taunts here and there and a few belittling comments isn't going to stop it from growing. Jai has an inborn talent for choreography, but then so has Dharmesh. Learn to appreciate others except your favorites. Learn to make this world a peaceful place to live in...

😃 Arey of course I remember Shakti........But didn't you know......Shakti was rumored to be starring in a movie as an actress opposite Rani and Vidya......and i didn't hear any Shakti fans criticizing her for acting.......In fact many of her fans were so convinced that she would be such a great actress that they were already nominating her to win the filmfare.........So when Salman goes in to acting, it's a bad thing but when Shakti goes in to acting it's perfectly acceptable? 😕 I thought you would be more consistent in your views seeing as how you always make it a point to say how fair minded you are.......😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: -Sneha

Ankit, why am I not surprised to see you?

Oh no not again... Check ALL the old threads, I've already explained those to you a THOUSAND times.

Just to add one thing, if he wanted to go into direction, he should have participated in Big Boss or some reality show that would showcase his acting talent. Dance India Dance was for India's DANCING star, not India's Upcoming Bollywood star. Before twisting and turning my words like you always have, check out some facts. For starters, the name of the show?

Yes, so have all the others, I haven't named anyone that hasn't struggled as far as I recall! As soon as you find that, let me know...

And I am as proud as Dharmesh as I am of Jai. For the sincere refreshment of your memory, I said I was looking forward to what Dharmesh would offer as choreography. Dharmesh and Jai are so far my top two for this season, Jai having a slight edge due to his group dances, and his ability to choreograph various forms (since last episode Dharmesh couldn't live up to Ballroom dancing AT ALL!) but that could slip anytime of course, as soon as Dharmesh shows something better or Jai slips behind.

By the way, my favorite duet on this show so far is by Dharmesh too: the Nahi Samne one. That was a stroke of brilliance!

So yes, for me, Jai and Dharmesh have been more successful than Salman for sure. They've taken up what they came for, and made a name for themselves in that field. Today, people get excited when Jai or Dharmesh have to choreograph something and wait for their choreography to see what's new, innovative or interesting. To them, DID wasn't just a platform to Bollywood, it was their passion, bloody and soul to show for dance. And that's something I bow down to. I am sorry if you don't agree, because I can't explain better than this. But then, I just think you will, since Dharmesh is in there too. Or are you a greater Salman fanatic?

I just happen to nurture and appreciate true talent over my personal favorites. Irrespective of their gender, caste, religion, skin color or stature, I voice out names that I think are deserving. I don't see why it should be otherwise or why I further need to justify my reasoning.


I'd just give you one advice. Stop feeling insecure about Jai or targeting him each time. Remember Shakti from last season? True talent gets recognized or appreciated anywhere Ankit... A few taunts here and there and a few belittling comments isn't going to stop it from growing. Jai has an inborn talent for choreography, but then so has Dharmesh. Learn to appreciate others except your favorites. Learn to make this world a peaceful place to live in...

😃 Insecure about Jai? 😃.........Sneha in case you didn't notice, Jai didn't even beat Salman, Alisha, or Siddhesh in DID 1 so I doubt he'll be able to top D sir.......... But let's see what happens......So far Vrush and Mayuresh have put up a better challenge to D sir then Jai has......😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: ankit_nyc

😃 Insecure about Jai? 😃.........Sneha in case you didn't notice, Jai didn't even beat Salman, Alisha, or Siddhesh in DID 1 so I doubt he'll be able to top D sir.......... But let's see what happens......So far Vrush and Mayuresh have put up a better challenge to D sir then Jai has......😳



And that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. But then, coming onto this forum often reminds me why I left it for some peace of mind earlier on...

About Shakti, get your facts right first. As far as I recall, and as much as I've seen from her FB profile, she's recently on a dance show camp with Terence, or at least was. I don't specifically know what she's up to now, but the article as you said, was a "rumour". So get your facts rights first! And even if she does get into acting, that's her business, and yeah, even if it IS Shakti, I still believe it's ridiculous that she put in so much hard work and then jump into Bollywood or acting at the first chance. Just by the way, Shakti herself said that Bollywood was of no interest to her in her finale interview, whereas your dear Salman said quite the opposite in all interviews.

And about Jai topping, didn't you say the same thing for season 2 for Shakti too? In case YOU didn't notice Ankit, the exact opposite of what you so well predicted happened. I guess you forgot it far too soon...

If you weren't insecure about Jai, you wouldn't be talking about how he was unable to beat contestants in DID Season 1, you would rather be trying to appreciate, by being a good sport, about how he's excellent competition for Dharmesh this season. And oh yeah? He's not even been a good challenge to Dharmesh and you think he won't be able to top Dharmesh? Yeah right, I'll accept that statement the day pigs start to fly...

See what I meant when I talked about the difference between you and me? You only picked up Jai not winning DID Season 1, Dharmesh being supposedly the best for Little Masters and Shakti rumours springing up by comparing her to Salman.

Two entire posts, you find nothing else that you could possibly sensibly and logically discuss about so you jump to the few names I mentioned in those posts. See how baseless your points are really? Check out the posts again, I already told you I won't write long essays just to explain you the same thing over and over again.

If you want to live in your cocoon about how Salman is awesome or how Shakti and Jai are horribly terrible, then go ahead. I have better things to do, including, watching how well Siddhesh is making a name for himself amongst so many of the television stars, and how Dharmesh and Jai are doing an excellent job as skippers, noting that, I am a fan of neither Dharmesh nor Siddhesh.

It so happens that ignorance is bliss for some. For others, it's a "decoupage" from the real world. The day you happen to get real, and learn to support your arguments without having to put down other contestants, skippers or members of this forum, I'll get back to you. Until then, you're welcomed to think whatever you want of me, Jai, Shakti or whoever the hell it is. They don't even know you, and I couldn't really give a damn about what you think! 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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😉 Thanks Sneha for the long explanation.. thank you very much..... i really appreciate everything you said.

I think if Salman wants to enter bollywood, the first thing he needs to do is to change his name. One Salman Khan is enough. Coz this is weird. Even Ronaldinho do not use the Ronaldo name.

I do think that Jai do better nowadays... even before DID. At least he has his own dance class and after DID1 he opened a new branch. He did choreographed some music videos but I dunno which one... he was offered a tv show just after DID but he refused.... I guess he bought a new car month ago....! ( if I'm wrong... forgive me)
As long as he lives well... I'm happy for him. I pray one day he will meet some one like Farah Khan who had introduced Shiamak Davar in DIl To Pagal Hai.

Edited by onizuka - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: -Sneha



And that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. But then, coming onto this forum often reminds me why I left it for some peace of mind earlier on...

About Shakti, get your facts right first. As far as I recall, and as much as I've seen from her FB profile, she's recently on a dance show camp with Terence, or at least was. I don't specifically know what she's up to now, but the article as you said, was a "rumour". So get your facts rights first! And even if she does get into acting, that's her business, and yeah, even if it IS Shakti, I still believe it's ridiculous that she put in so much hard work and then jump into Bollywood or acting at the first chance. Just by the way, Shakti herself said that Bollywood was of no interest to her in her finale interview, whereas your dear Salman said quite the opposite in all interviews.

And about Jai topping, didn't you say the same thing for season 2 for Shakti too? In case YOU didn't notice Ankit, the exact opposite of what you so well predicted happened. I guess you forgot it far too soon...

If you weren't insecure about Jai, you wouldn't be talking about how he was unable to beat contestants in DID Season 1, you would rather be trying to appreciate, by being a good sport, about how he's excellent competition for Dharmesh this season. And oh yeah? He's not even been a good challenge to Dharmesh and you think he won't be able to top Dharmesh? Yeah right, I'll accept that statement the day pigs start to fly...

See what I meant when I talked about the difference between you and me? You only picked up Jai not winning DID Season 1, Dharmesh being supposedly the best for Little Masters and Shakti rumours springing up by comparing her to Salman.

Two entire posts, you find nothing else that you could possibly sensibly and logically discuss about so you jump to the few names I mentioned in those posts. See how baseless your points are really? Check out the posts again, I already told you I won't write long essays just to explain you the same thing over and over again.

If you want to live in your cocoon about how Salman is awesome or how Shakti and Jai are horribly terrible, then go ahead. I have better things to do, including, watching how well Siddhesh is making a name for himself amongst so many of the television stars, and how Dharmesh and Jai are doing an excellent job as skippers, noting that, I am a fan of neither Dharmesh nor Siddhesh.

It so happens that ignorance is bliss for some. For others, it's a "decoupage" from the real world. The day you happen to get real, and learn to support your arguments without having to put down other contestants, skippers or members of this forum, I'll get back to you. Until then, you're welcomed to think whatever you want of me, Jai, Shakti or whoever the hell it is. They don't even know you, and I couldn't really give a damn about what you think! 😛

Embarrassed Wow look at how much we have in common........Just like you couldn't give a damn about what I think, I couldn't give a damn about what you think either.......and the facts are the facts......Salman won DID 1 and Jai finished 4th so there were 3 other dancers who were better then him in DID 1.......Shakti won DID 2 and she was better then all others........😕 and if you don't want people to mention contestant's names then stop bringing them up yourself......you started bashing Salman in your original post so don't be surprised if people rebutt your bashing......😕 and this is a discussion board, just like you think Jai is the best thing since sliced bread, others may think that their favorites are the best........learn to respect all through your actions rather then just typing long bhashans about how fair you are.........😕
Edited by ankit_nyc - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: onizuka

😉 Thanks Sneha for the long explanation.. thank you very much..... i really appreciate everything you said.

I think if Salman wants to enter bollywood, the first thing he needs to do is to change his name. One Salman Khan is enough. Coz this is weird. Even Ronaldinho do not use the Ronaldo name.

I do think that Jai do better nowadays... even before DID. At least he has his own dance class and after DID1 he opened a new branch. He did choreographed some music videos but I dunno which one... he was offered a tv show just after DID but he refused.... I guess he bought a new car month ago....! ( if I'm wrong... forgive me)
As long as he lives well... I'm happy for him. I pray one day he will meet some one like Farah Khan who had introduced Shiamak Davar in DIl To Pagal Hai.



Hey there Oni! You're welcomed, only I don't even know why you're saying thanks in the first place. But yeah, am glad that you don't find it dull or long or bhashan-type. I'm relieved! Lolz...

See, what people fail to understand, is that I have absolutely nothing against Salman entering Bollywood, with him keeping his name, or changing it, either way. I think he looks very smart and is extremely charming. Just the other day, me and Mum were discussing [DID 1 is playing again over here on the local channel] about how we felt Salman looked really dashing in some of the episodes. To top it, he's an excellent dancer and a thorough gentleman. Easily the best on the show in those terms. There never were any cases of him crying out loud (though I don't think it's bad, but still), there never was a lot of drama involved around him either. I really wish him all the best for whatever he tries a hand at. My simple point is that, and he admits it, he used the show as a means to get into Bollywood, and since this topic was based on the utility of reality shows, I just thought about how useless they turn out to be when such things happen. Of course the same applies to any winner, including Shakti as well.

I have no such favorite nowadays. I appreciate good people, good talent and good dancing (for this show) whatever and however their physical, mental or emotive abilities. For me, if Jai was best in Season 1 and Shakti was best in Season 2, I don't see what's so wrong about it, even if they weren't winners. I kindheartedly accept that someone else might not think so, that's obvious, but what annoys me is that when other members comment on your post, twisting everything and anything you're about to say, and then trying to force the image of their favorites in your mind.

Let's just say I've been used to though... You get over it! 😆

I don't recall seeing you on the forum last season by the way, so welcome, irrespective of who's your favorite, it's really nice to talk to you! 😃


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit_nyc

😳 Wow look at how much we have in common........Just like you couldn't give a damn about what I think, I couldn't give a damn about what you think either.......and the facts are the facts......Salman won DID 1 and Jai finished 4th so there were 3 other dancers who were better then him in DID 1.......Shakti won DID 2 and she was better then all others........😕 and if you don't want people to mention contestant's names then stop bringing them up yourself......you started bashing Salman in your original post so don't be surprised if people rebutt your bashing......😕 and this is a discussion board, just like you think Jai is the best thing since sliced bread, others may think that their favorites are the best........learn to respect all through your actions rather then just typing long bhashans about how fair you are.........😕



Wow, looks who's saying this? Want to dig up some old posts and find all the good things you said about her Ankit? Look who's trying to say he's fair. As far as I remember, there wasn't one instant before she won when you were hell bent on proving that Shakti was better than the rest. Great improvement, I've got to admit. I may write long bhashans, but at least I always stick to my points, be it 1 day later or 1 year later.

And then secondly, find me ONE phrase where I was bashing Salman. And I said the same thing for Shakti as I did for Salman in my first post. Then you didn't find it bashing? Check out dictionary definitions dude, because you SURE don't know what bashing is. So don't go giving other people advice if you can't differentiate between bashing and discussing. As far as I also recall, I've always respected each and every member on this forum, as well as each and every contestant and judge on this show, whereas I could give out quite some names who haven't always been so supportive of ex-contestants prior to their winning the show.

Get a life dude, either learn to counter arguments without telling people to stop bashing when they aren't even doing so in the first place, or else just don't comment on other people's opinions, which I ought to make you remember, you started off in the first place!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sneha



Wow, looks who's saying this? Want to dig up some old posts and find all the good things you said about her Ankit? Look who's trying to say he's fair. As far as I remember, there wasn't one instant before she won when you were hell bent on proving that Shakti was better than the rest. Great improvement, I've got to admit. I may write long bhashans, but at least I always stick to my points, be it 1 day later or 1 year later.

And then secondly, find me ONE phrase where I was bashing Salman. And I said the same thing for Shakti as I did for Salman in my first post. Then you didn't find it bashing? Check out dictionary definitions dude, because you SURE don't know what bashing is. So don't go giving other people advice if you can't differentiate between bashing and discussing. As far as I also recall, I've always respected each and every member on this forum, as well as each and every contestant and judge on this show, whereas I could give out quite some names who haven't always been so supportive of ex-contestants prior to their winning the show.

Get a life dude, either learn to counter arguments without telling people to stop bashing when they aren't even doing so in the first place, or else just don't comment on other people's opinions, which I ought to make you remember, you started off in the first place!

😃 awww there you go again....getting all angry and attacking members by saying "get a life" etc......If you can't handle arguments in a civil manner, you shouldn't be engaging in them.....😃 And can you show some evidence about how 'fair" you claim to be and how "unfair" others are instead of just giving long laborious bhashans......😊 I mean it would be nice to back up statements with facts once in a while.......😃 Sure I thought D sir was a better dancer then Shakti the whole season, but when Shakti won I said she was the best........unlike you who keeps saying Jai was the best eventhough he came in 4th..........Confused so please if you can't argue in a civil manner using facts, please don't respond to my posts or bother reading them either....thank you 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: zaabemard

Not very real. You can tell from the scripted and fake sounding things the kids say. Some of them don't even know English but they are made to speak in it and it sounds awkward. That's not reality - it's fake scripted stuff.



Yeah, well I remember in DID Season 2 when Dharmesh spoke "english" you could hear a little voice in the backround whispering to him, telling him what to say...but the thing about kids speaking in english and it being awkward isn't true cause if I speak in english I am sure that it must sound much different then when someone living in the US speaks.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey there Oni! You're welcomed, only I don't even know why you're saying thanks in the first place. But yeah, am glad that you don't find it dull or long or bhashan-type. I'm relieved! Lolz...

See, what people fail to understand, is that I have absolutely nothing against Salman entering Bollywood, with him keeping his name, or changing it, either way. I think he looks very smart and is extremely charming. Just the other day, me and Mum were discussing [DID 1 is playing again over here on the local channel] about how we felt Salman looked really dashing in some of the episodes. To top it, he's an excellent dancer and a thorough gentleman. Easily the best on the show in those terms. There never were any cases of him crying out loud (though I don't think it's bad, but still), there never was a lot of drama involved around him either. I really wish him all the best for whatever he tries a hand at. My simple point is that, and he admits it, he used the show as a means to get into Bollywood, and since this topic was based on the utility of reality shows, I just thought about how useless they turn out to be when such things happen. Of course the same applies to any winner, including Shakti as well.

I have no such favorite nowadays. I appreciate good people, good talent and good dancing (for this show) whatever and however their physical, mental or emotive abilities. For me, if Jai was best in Season 1 and Shakti was best in Season 2, I don't see what's so wrong about it, even if they weren't winners. I kindheartedly accept that someone else might not think so, that's obvious, but what annoys me is that when other members comment on your post, twisting everything and anything you're about to say, and then trying to force the image of their favorites in your mind.

Let's just say I've been used to though... You get over it! 😆

I don't recall seeing you on the forum last season by the way, so welcome, irrespective of who's your favorite, it's really nice to talk to you! 😃



The thank you is for saying the things i want to say but very lazy to type it here...
I was here since first season but too busy working... anyway i didn't watch did2 that much...i admit the fact that the contestants as a whole were far better than DID1.... i have no favourite in did2... but i used to like d'sir and binny... honestly.. i don't like shakti..... coz sometimes the judges over praised her....and sometimes too much.... that wasn't her faults......anyway...! But the truth is that Shakti is a very daring dancer..! Soooo daring!
Nice to know you toooooo.....!!!!

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