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Posted: 16 years ago
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After watching yesterday's episode was wondering how much of an impact a concept has on choreography and vice-versa. Even if the concept is great, a misjudging of choreography or experimenting unnecessarily costs the dancers a performance

RKR -

1. After listening to the 'Gopeswar' mythology concept, my expectations were really high. Then came the damp fib, I was aghast to say the least. It could have been done so tastefully and elegantly.
Why is there a tendency to make a dancer wear uncomfortable attire which shows?
Why does one need circus acrobatry in the midst of a piece like this to show creativity, how could the dancers pull that off? I didn't feel bad for the team's master , I felt really bad for the contestants - such a waste of time and talent.

2. A concept '???' (was it dual persona or two sides of a coin) - choreography was okay, steps were good , something amiss and the performance lacking although I really liked Nikki tasha in this.

TKT -

1. A simple concept ' Beauty is skin deep' - choreography was heartfelt, moves and steps were precise. Everything just fit and voila a lovely performance. Kunwar was exceptional, Shakti was good as expected.
2. Another concept ' Comittment phobia' - choreography was okay, steps were good. A heartfelt emotion lacking. Parvez was good - Kruti is the most underrated dancer of the lot.

GKG -

1. A filmy concept 'Saathiya' - choreography was weak, a copy of many steps over the episodes of all the masters. Binny and Kishore were good , no chance to prove themselves- the bar is set too low.


On that note, just like teachers in school and the favoritism bit. Even in dance the masters play favorites and it's obvious in the concept/choreography assigned to performers.

Anyone agree or disagree.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I agree with you on this point...For RKR, when I heard from Remo about the concept of Gopeshwar, he immediately had me hooked on. I think the concept was brilliatn and to adapt this story and give it a different form was creative. I believe his choreography was also good, but then why give such a choreography to students if they cannot execute. He might have tried this in the practices but if the contestants could attempt the execution to perfection all the time then only attempt those steps... His concept was good but his interpretation failed. As fo the other dance, I don't want to even comment..jsut want to say What was Remo thinking?

Terence's dances usually have an underlying message, which even if he doesn't explain, me as a viewer get it. It was simple, elegant and emotionally connecting... Sometimes I feel, that the steps feel smooth and simple, but I guess credit has to be given to the dancers who make it look simple and smooth. for the second act, somehow I didn't feel the lack of energy as mentioned but then maybe I am wrong. I too feel Kruti is the most underrated performer. She hasn't been appreciated by the masters... She can do amazing performances.

Geeta...well her interpretation of Saathiya for Vivek was simple, repetitive (which Geeta didn't find it) and bollywoodish.. yes it was nice, but it was very forgetful...

And yes most of the choreographers have certain contestants in their mind for their choreography...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Do you think Terrence could have fitted the 'Beauty is skin deep' dance on Kruthi and Kunwar and got the same level of performance?
About the Gopeshwar concept , I feel the dance would have fit NikkiTasha (Shiva) and Sashank(Krishna) or even Bhavna(Krishna) and Punit(Shiva) very well.
Im sorry but Geeta is way out of her league on this show.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yeah he might have got the same level of performance with Kruti too...I think Kruti is amazing..Shakti is exceptional in that dance but Kruti too could have rocked it...

The gopeshwar act had to have two guys..though Lord Shiva takes the role of a female his inner self is a male..Nikki or Bhawna would have made it very feminine...I think remo's choice was good but the execution and final output was bad...

btw welcome to the forum... 😳 ...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Kruti would have executed the same dance as Shakti well, but I am not sure whether the same feelings would have been triggered in the mind of viewers... I am sure Terence knows what style looks better for whom and so makes the choices accordingly..

I think the Gopeshwar act had the wrong dancer - Shashank, else it would have been a real good one!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Agree with all your inputs on the thematic reasons.

While I agree with the concept of Gopeswar dance, the choreography to me was almost comparable to the 'pole vault' dance which had put me off.
There was so much hype about DID-2 -dancers et al, yet with the final 18 its not that exceptional in comparison with last time. Last season, there were atleast 4 dancers who'd made a mark for themselves prior to the voting. Is this because of the delayed opening of this season and everything's being rushed, scripted, pre-finalized ?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yeah when I heard the concept and the mythology I was totally hooked but there were so many bits in the dance that made me cringe!
The choreography was just OK for me, maybe because I absolutely hated what Shashank was wearing and thought he looked absolutely hideous. So much could have been done with it but I was really let down!
Even when they finally got the lift right, they were not confident AT ALL! They were still scared that they wouldn't be able to do I correctly which shows a serious lack of practice. I don't think just the execution was to blame.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Yeah whenI heard the concept and the mythology I was totally hooked but there were so many bits in the dance that made me cringe!

The choreography was just OK for me, maybe because I absolutely hated what Shashank was wearing and thought he looked absolutely hideous. So much could have been done with it but I was really let down!


Even when they finally got the lift right, they were not confident AT ALL! They were still scared that they wouldn't be able to doI correctly which shows a serious lack of practice. I don't think just the execution was to blame.



Agreed, the main step which Remo told them to show in the last, though it was executed but it wasn't smooth..Terence ki bhaasha mein ekdum Tadtadi tha... 😆 ...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Yeah when I heard the concept and the mythology I was totally hooked but there were so many bits in the dance that made me cringe!

The choreography was just OK for me, maybe because I absolutely hated what Shashank was wearing and thought he looked absolutely hideous. So much could have been done with it but I was really let down!
Even when they finally got the lift right, they were not confident AT ALL! They were still scared that they wouldn't be able to do I correctly which shows a serious lack of practice. I don't think just the execution was to blame.

They were plain uncomfortable, thats where I digress and blame the mentor for putting the dancers through it, very important for the dancers to be at ease and I'm sure they'd be having dress rehearsals - didn't anyone feel something amiss.
Choreography also includes a dress sense which goes with a certain personality that falls in line with a concept. Western/Indian not withstanding
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd



Agreed, the main step which Remo told them to show in the last, though it was executed but it wasn't smooth..Terence ki bhaasha mein ekdum Tadtadi tha... 😆 ...

Imagine that step being done in a flow - the speed at which it was supposed to have been executed was plain ridiculous. How could the dancers pull that off ? So much for the concept and then choreography.

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