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Posted: 9 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: naq5

Suha keeps giving these expressions😆 used to think she is testing Adarsh by calling Swa to select the sarees & all. The problem with her is that she senses something is wrong but maybe is too egoistic or too self involved to believe in her doubts😕. i wonder how she being so clever couldnt guess that Adarsh was behind Swa. She trusts things more on face value than her guts. So she never acts on her guts

i will stick to my hunch, she is sensing something is fishy.

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Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

#32

I don't think it is true that we are individuals are not bound by trust for anyone. If this is true, then why should anyone trust anyone at all. Why should Swa trust Adarsh, why should Adarsh trust Swa... let them all be independent. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way.

As much as there is independence, there is dependency too. Where do you draw the line. Tomorrow is Swa tells Adarsh that she loves him, should he trust that or not? Is everything has to be independent anyway, what is the need for companionship, togetherness,etc? As much as we may not want to believe it, we depend on our close ones for support.

Yes, you have to make your choices on your own. But the choices you make are guided by so many things, and these things in themselves are unique to different individuals.

Shruthi said it correctly. We have to analyze the characters based on the information they have. Not on the information that we have.

Zara, you are right too. There is nothing wrong in Adarsh believing his mother blindly. If you think about it, Swadheenta's own need to fight this case has been her blind trust in her maamu and Asad. It is her instinct. Fortunately for her, she will be proven right. Unfortunately for him, he will be proven wrong. But from where they stand at the moment, they are both operating on Blind Trust!

If Swadheenta is thinking about things that Asad has said to her and where she kept things etc, it is her instinct. At the same time Adarsh is thinking about Abhay's last word, Allen Board's confirmation etc as proof against them. He trusts the system, she trusts her family. It is still trust!

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#33

@priti without trusting something we cannot move forward. Even in science great inventions start with an assumption. We have to think assumption true until something proves it false if we have to work. In MB Krishna gives a choice to Arjun. The most beautiful choice. My power on one side and me without weapon on other side. It is Arjun's choice, but what is the basis of that choice. Trust and only trust. He chooses Krishna without weapon. Why does that choice given to Arjuna. In that choice lies Arjun's greatness. When power is at the other end to chose Krishna without weapon lies his trust in his friend.

So trust is needed, but as time goes maybe it changes. But our parents will be the first ones we trust right. Every child does that. Every man-woman does that.

Marriage the relation itself is based on trust. Yes the partners are independent, but are dependent too.

It is the dependency without an identity like Jai and Jaya is what should be avoided. Not the one like that of Adarsh, who takes decision based on facts.

Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago

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Swetha

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Posted: 9 years ago

#34

@Shruthi

Awesome analysis of yesterday's episode by u, dear! 👏⭐️

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#35

Guys if I can still keep my eyes open at 11 pm I will try to post analysis tonight as today being Friday I will watch the show at night.

Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago

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Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
Guys if I can still keep my eyes open at 11 pm I will try to post analysis tonight as today being Friday I will watch the show at night.

Brilliant.

And your comment about trust - exactly. Trust is the basis of all relationships if we see. You cannot operate without trust!

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Sohini Dasgupta

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Posted: 9 years ago

#37

By the time this show ends, I feel I will be in love with Mahabharata all over again. All thanks to you! 😳

I was pretty pleased with Suhasini yesterday, specially the scene which suha had with swa in the kitchen. I felt glad that atleast suha isn't treating swa like a piece of trash for having opinion different than hers. And the best part is, subconsciously suha knows swa can never side with lies; there has to be something concrete that's driving swa in a different direction but what is lacking is suha's conviction. Probably because it's her son in question, and her emotions are getting the better of her but if you notice carefully suha the lawyer seems more than convinced at there's much more than what's meeting the eye at the moment. I liked how she asked manohar that why is Allan Broad releasing his statement after 26 days of the bomb blast. Such a precise observation! It's like suha knows something is weird about it but she doesn't have the conviction to go by her instincts, probably cause it's her 'favourite' beta who lost his life and a mother's emotions are weighing down a lawyer's instincts!

Swa in more than one ways is similar to suha..specially in terms of being a Laywer. They both are guided by their instincts and their undeniable thirst for siding with the truth. I remember one instant from the show when suha lost the case purposely cause the client lied to her regarding facts. Though she utilised that case to bring down the Ramakrishnans initially, but clearly her intention of siding with the truth was evident even in those circumstances!

Swa is exactly same as suha. Atleast when it comes to siding with the truth.

Today while having a general discussion, my dad who watches the show as well told me 'I'm very sure Suhasini will rebuke Manohar too soon and help Swadheenta win the case'

So that's what suha's character has managed to do. She might be flawed but her love for truth is undeniable.

P.S: I think padmashree and swa make a bomb pair.. Even better than SwaDarsh😆

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Sur89

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Posted: 9 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: .SoHu.
By the time this show ends, I feel I will be in love with Mahabharata all over again. All thanks to you! 😳
I was pretty pleased with Suhasini yesterday, specially the scene which suha had with swa in the kitchen. I felt glad that atleast suha isn't treating swa like a piece of trash for having opinion different than hers. And the best part is, subconsciously suha knows swa can never side with lies; there has to be something concrete that's driving swa in a different direction but what is lacking is suha's conviction. Probably because it's her son in question, and her emotions are getting the better of her but if you notice carefully suha the lawyer seems more than convinced at there's much more than what's meeting the eye at the moment. I liked how she asked manohar that why is Allan Broad releasing his statement after 26 days of the bomb blast. Such a precise observation! It's like suha knows something is weird about it but she doesn't have the conviction to go by her instincts, probably cause it's her 'favourite' beta who lost his life and a mother's emotions are weighing down a lawyer's instincts!
Swa in more than one ways is similar to suha..specially in terms of being a Laywer. They both are guided by their instincts and their undeniable thirst for siding with the truth. I remember one instant from the show when suha lost the case purposely cause the client lied to her regarding facts. Though she utilised that case to bring down the Ramakrishnans initially, but clearly her intention of siding with the truth was evident even in those circumstances!
Swa is exactly same as suha. Atleast when it comes to siding with the truth.
Today while having a general discussion, my dad who watches the show as well told me 'I'm very sure Suhasini will rebuke Manohar too soon and help Swadheenta win the case'
So that's what suha's character has managed to do. She might be flawed but her love for truth is undeniable.

P.S: I think padmashree and swa make a bomb pair.. Even better than SwaDarsh😆

Na na.not better than swadarsh..❤️😊

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Sohini Dasgupta

@.SoHu.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: Sur89

Na na.not better than swadarsh..❤️😊

Haha chalo theek hai. I take that.😳❤️

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naq5

@naq5

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Posted: 9 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun
I don't think it is true that we are individuals are not bound by trust for anyone. If this is true, then why should anyone trust anyone at all. Why should Swa trust Adarsh, why should Adarsh trust Swa... let them all be independent. Unfortunately life doesn't work that way.

As much as there is independence, there is dependency too. Where do you draw the line. Tomorrow is Swa tells Adarsh that she loves him, should he trust that or not? Is everything has to be independent anyway, what is the need for companionship, togetherness,etc? As much as we may not want to believe it, we depend on our close ones for support.

Yes, you have to make your choices on your own. But the choices you make are guided by so many things, and these things in themselves are unique to different individuals.

Shruthi said it correctly. We have to analyze the characters based on the information they have. Not on the information that we have.

Zara, you are right too. There is nothing wrong in Adarsh believing his mother blindly. If you think about it, Swadheenta's own need to fight this case has been her blind trust in her maamu and Asad. It is her instinct. Fortunately for her, she will be proven right. Unfortunately for him, he will be proven wrong. But from where they stand at the moment, they are both operating on Blind Trust!

If Swadheenta is thinking about things that Asad has said to her and where she kept things etc, it is her instinct. At the same time Adarsh is thinking about Abhay's last word, Allen Board's confirmation etc as proof against them. He trusts the system, she trusts her family. It is still trust!

well the difference here is that Adarsh believes that him trusting his parents is ok while he believes Swa trusting her parents is wrong.

Whereas Swa understands Adarsh's trust & respects his trust for his parents where as Adarsh does not seem to respect that.

That was shown in the way he handled the slap fiasco. Swa would have never asked Adarsh to ask his parents to apologize. Thats not what any child can ask their parents to do. Though individually they can tell why they were wrong but asking them to say sorry in front of everyone is different. Saying sorry is the parents personal decicion. Even Adarsh would not have agreed to ask his parents such a thing, why did he expect Swa to do it

Also blind trust to the point where you cease to to think yourself is not the way to go. That is what i meant. Trusting is not bad, there has to be trust in every relation. But trusting so much that you cannot make decisions urself & not to be able to see anything with your perspective is not right.

When u trust so much that the person can manipulate you & your other relations are destroyed because of it. whose fault it is?

Look at Jai he trusts that his father is always right & slowly has lost the ability to think what is right & wrong. He merely says yes to everything. Why were we so angry on Jaya after she trusted her inlaws so much that the so called understanding Jaya could not see things from Swa'a perspective.

I had liked the adarsh of the past where Adarsh refused to attend a meeting and instead decided to go to a college talk, defying his dad. The way he pulled up both Simi & his Mom showing how they were wrong. It was not that he did not trust or respect his parents then. Where was this ability of his when the slapgate happened. Why did he not manage it in such a way that after Guruji apologized Simi & Ahuja also said sorry. IMO everyone was in descending order of fault there.

Right now where is Adarsh's trust for Swa that she would not cook up stories & give wrong facts to the judge just to prove Haider & Asad innocent. Swa has always walked the truths path & adarsh knows that. Why cant he just think there is something more to it because of Swa's trust. ok he is in trauma right now, but if the same thing was said by his mom he would believe her without questioning

The adarsh today that we see, believes only what his mom says. His own thought process has gone for a toss since his mother has agreed to Swa being his wife. Indebtedness maybe & the guilt of keeping her in the dark about his relationship. Tomorrow if she says i am starting to trust Swa then only he will do it. Im sure if Adarsh would have given it a thought he would be able to see the loopholes Swa has seen or his mother has started to see now. Right now i feel he has left the thinking to suhasini and only trusting what she is trusting.

I had actually expected Adarsh to first see the loopholes & start believing Swa. Though now as Shruti expects its going to be Suha first & then Adarsh.

And i do not expect Adarsh to see through manohar's & jaidev's plans. Its too far fetched for anyone to think his own father and brother are involved in something like this. That too when their own son has died & his killer is roaming free because of their inaction.

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