Let's face it: This is about class

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I cannot understand how Ahuja and Ramakrishnan are being equated and it is being argued that both should apologise.

From day 1, this has been about class. Suhasini and her husband cannot digest the fact that their IAS son has fallen for a Bharatanatyam dancer's daughter.

Initially I found Ramakrishnan overbearing and OTT -- and didn't like the dance angle at all.

But appa has since grown on me. He is a very simple guy who worships his art and who has loads of self-respect.

Despite this, he swallowed his pride and approached the Sinhas for the sake of his daughter. At the Sinha house, he faced nothing but insult.

He was told he had his eye on the main chance and virtually thrown out.

And then they frisked him -- which is horribly wrong. I know something about how bureaucrats function and they do not have frisking at their residences. I have been to the houses of many civil servants and have never been frisked.

Even assuming Mr. Sinha was v.v senior, and therefore needed to have his visitors vetted,, there was no need for him to subject his extended family to frisking. (he seems to be in the Delhi bureaucracy which is really not such a VVIP job)

Had the security staff been told that Ramakrishnan was family, they would not have frisked him. All the explanation about it being unavoidable is pure hog wash. The Sinha House is not PMO or the airport or even a ministerial residence.

I doubt that Ahuja was frisked. So the insult was deliberate. What is surprising is that none of the Sinha lads intervened to stop it.

Ramakrishnan consoled himself and went along. And then began anther round of insults. He didn't carry a gift even though he wanted to. He stood red-faced as other people carried gifts. Adarsh could have easily helped him there.

The ultimate insult was to make him dance and ridicule his art. Nobody who loves his art can stand for it being made fun of. Ahuja was crude and offensive and should have been instantly reprimanded. Instead he carried on heckling Ramakrishnan who being both impulsive and proud gave it back to him.

Had I been in Ramakrishnan's place, I'm sure I'd have done the same. And had I been in Swadheenta's place I'd done exactly what she did. I don't know why she is being called immature and stupid.

As the daughter of a proud man who has no valuable material possessions but has lived all his life only for his art, I would any day place my dad and his hurt pride about my love for a man -- who doesn't even have the decency to see the difference between my simple-minded father and his goonish, boorish relative.
It hurt me so much to see Appa tearfully accept that he doesn't fit in with the Sinhas and would rather go home.He had the grace not to insist the marriage should be cancelled.

So there is no equality here -- neither in terms of class nor in terms of the offence committed.

If I were Swa, I would just walk out and never turn back -- to hell with oh-so-cute romantic pairings.


Disclaimer: I'm a Tamil and understand how art is treated in TN. So may be that is why I feel this way

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Even I'm tamil and find it totally odd, that Adarsh does not stand up for his future-in-law, but instead ask Swaadentha to apologise. Of course it's wrong by Ramakrishnan to ''push'' Ahuja into the poll, but comparing to what Abuja said he has to apologise first. Just because you are from the girl side, does not mean you have to be numb and accept the insult. It's not Swadeentha, who is getting a new family it's Adarsh was well. Despite Adarsh being an IPS officer, he has never stood up for himself in front of his own family. He was the one, who almost was ready to marry someone else.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Appa was wrong in slapping he should've handled it more tactfully but then again he is impulsive and the way suha just lightly said aapko shobha nai deta to ahuja and then just turned the whole thing on appa that could've been avoided had aadarsh at that point said that yes slapping is wrong but what ahuja said was distasteful disgusting and just like he told swa this he could've told ahuja that even he was enraged and its not just about supporting ur sasur as simi said but standing firm on his own groud he is an IAS he would absolutely know that tqo people can be wrong and honestly appa did not slap ahuja cos he was just soo bored in the party:P that man isulted rama and almost threw money at him and he gets a free pass the fact remains that bharatmatyam teacher just doesn't deserve "respect" in their eyes.
Swa was wrong when she suddenly jumped and said appa shouldn't apologize despite knowing what was aadarsh stand on the issue but honestly aadarsh was simply repeating whatever his family told him his frustration taking over his rationale self. Swa interfered in this but what else would she do watch simmi slap her dad? Was that right? Its sooo on the face that the whole thing is being manipulated to make rama look bad that i am amazed qualified IAS IPS officers aren't able to notice it i mean if its about analyzing the senario why not analyze the whole thing and not just the part that serves ur purpose:P at this point i can only suha is smart in sinha household rest all well none of the boys inherited their mumma's genes😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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it is obbbviously about class and richness. no second thought or analysis abt it.
delhites hv sweeet tongue but know to knifeback this way.
and for tamilians (90%) want daughters married in secure homes - abroad etc and see very practical.
here it is different, but that in blue is true
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with you completely. I would have done the same thing as Swa and stood up. Ahuja 's language was crude and offensive, what Ramakrishnan did was not that big of deal, considering what Ahuja said. I love that Swa is taking stand against Adarsh because I believe he is in the wrong. I understand he has done lot for her but this time its about right and wrong. I think it will be only fair if both say sorry to each other.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well written post n I agree with you.

I also feel it will be fair only if both the parties say sorry.Not only one.

Adarsh know what Ahuja did was wrong.He said to Swa in the phone conversation.That he also got angry seeing what Ahuja said to Appa. So it's high time.He just stop saying the same like tota.What his mom says.He should say what Ahuja did also wrong in front of family n both should apologize.Also Simi should apologize.If Adarsh say this n Swa oppose it.Then it is Swa's mistake.That she did not understand his POV.But Adarsh need to see both the side mistake.He should not say Appa only should apologize which is very wrong.

What Swa did was right.She took a stand for her dad n the art which his dad considered as pride.But Swa also should accept slapping was wrong.I just hope she uses her brain.Play peacemaker n make both the parties apologize.

I have no hope on Adarsh.All my hopes on only on Swa,Haider N Zubaida.Even Revati can also play peacemaker role.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NeverBeDismayed

it is obbbviously about class and richness. no second thought or analysis abt it.

delhites hv sweeet tongue but know to knifeback this way.
and for tamilians (90%) want daughters married in secure homes - abroad etc and see very practical.
here it is different, but that in blue is true


It is not abt delhites.. It is a simple drama n they want masala in that. Go to any serial all r doing the same thing that's doesn't mean India is full of those people only.

They have to show power n politics that's why they r using Delhi.

Delhites r not like that.. Yes some people influenced by class may be do that but u cant quote delhites for that... I don't know if u r from Delhi or not but I m a delhites..and can't accept this.

Sorry if I hurt u but it is not abt a state.


Edited by Aalina. - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aalina.



It is not abt delhites.. It is a simple drama n they want masala in that. Go to any serial all r doing the same thing that's doesn't mean India is full of those people only.

They have to show power n politics that's why they r using Delhi.

Delhites r not like that.. Yes some people influenced by class may be do that but u cant quote delhites for that... I don't know if u r from Delhi or not but I m a delhites..and can't accept this.

Sorry if I hurt u but it is not abt a state.





Hi dear buddy Aalina sorry I hurt u !

Actually na I hv and hd tons of Delhi friends
And we all been fantastic . Mujhe bahut maja aur achaa laga
Aur lagta hai
Lekin na what has happened ye yahan Jo ho raha hai na belittling and finally not wanting girl or boy of lesser class ye unn sabke saath hua hai aur unhoney bhee ye
Bias kiya hai...my friends themselves yaaar finally as u said when it comes to power n etc
Also that ridicule thing abt Abuja and Rama ...is exaggerated masala
But what Suhasini and hubby is doing wretched waisey hota hai na kyon ??!
It's not masala it does happen
Again sorry to hurt u mate
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am not a Tamil but I have the same opinion about appa . I found him annoying in the beginning when he entered but now I guess I am able to understand his character well . Swa is right at her place & appa even though loves his daughter too much but still is ready to leave so that there is no more troubles in her wedding . This time Adarsh should have supported him as Ahuja really behaved like a classless person in that party totally mannerless.
Edited by MS-meghasharma - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am totally with Freedom on this one too. If a girl doesn't draw the line on how her in=laws treat her family and vice vasa, then it will only keep getting worst after marriage. Before marriage, believe it or not ,is the most sweetest and respectful period between in-laws. If at this point they are disrespecting her dad like that, Later in life, they will step on him with high heels.
She better stand on her grand. If Adarsh loves her as he claims...he should equally be hurt for her dad. In fact, he and his brothers should have stop Ahuja before the slap happened. Ramakrishna ji shouldn't have to defend himself. Since everyone stood like logs, Rama and Swa have to stand up against Ahuja and Simi. Which was not right.

Let's say a rich guest who has all the values of Rama is at that party, the whole family would have talked and plan on how to make sure Ahuja (knowing how he is) has very limited and supervised contact with that guest. But Swa's dad is a nobody right? is pride meant nothing.

Edited by avyarima - 9 years ago

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