Discussions on Indian Force's actions against Pakistan # 6 - Page 102

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

Things started to change after US left Afghanistan and Taliban took over.. I think.

Pakistan has been expelling Afghan refugees in its country and maybe that's one of the reason Afghans have started hating Pakistan. Even before US leaving Pak, also many Afghans hated Pakistan...

I think Raj might know about it more...

Many Afghans have hatred toward Pakistan mainly because of its role in Afghanistan’s internal problems. During the 1990s, Pakistan supported the Taliban and even gave shelter to their leaders after 2001. Many Afghans blame Pakistan for helping groups that caused war, terrorism and destruction in their country. They feel that instead of being a good neighbor, Pakistan kept interfering and added to their suffering.

Another major issue is the Durand Line, a border created by the British, which cuts through Afghan land and divides the Pashtun people between the two countries. Afghanistan has never officially accepted this border but Pakistan treats it as the official one. This has caused tension for decades. Afghans see it as a loss of their land and culture and Pakistan’s strict control over this border adds to the anger.

Lastly although Pakistan gave shelter to millions of Afghan refugees during the war, many of them faced mistreatment, police harassment and were even forced to return home. Afghans feel humiliated by how they were treated. On top of that Pakistan often blames Afghanistan for terrorism while Afghans believe its Pakistan who supports extremist groups. These political games, past betrayals and constant tension have led many Afghans to deeply distrust and dislike Pakistan.

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Originally posted by: IamRaj96

Yes and its most prevalent in western China especially in the Uyghur Muslim regions. I watched a vlog about Xinjiang which is near Aksai Chin. China has deployed most of its army there because the region is unstable much like J&K. The Uyghur Muslims dont want to be part of China and often rebel against the government, which leads to a lot of violence. Thats why China maintains such a heavy military presence there.

https://youtu.be/MaINUbYwAkk?si=pqyXkKcQ4IAlSmkn

https://youtu.be/AWj4GES7zqU?si=p6x7h5wb59HqOndn

You know in this region, even to buy something like a kitchen knife or any sharp object you need government permission and it must be registered at a police station. There are many butchers in the area and every large knife is chained to a table or wall to prevent anyone from using it to commit violence.

Honestly i kind of think similar restrictions might be necessary in J&K too.

Yes, I am aware of the condition of XinXiang and Tibet. I was talking about their mainland too. See the pictures during covid and after that.. I think it's army which is deployed everytime anything happens.
My personal view is chinese military is either too good or too bad, so their fighting capabities are not clear but i know they also use some dirty tricks too.

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

Many Afghans have hatred toward Pakistan mainly because of its role in Afghanistan’s internal problems. During the 1990s, Pakistan supported the Taliban and even gave shelter to their leaders after 2001. Many Afghans blame Pakistan for helping groups that caused war, terrorism and destruction in their country. They feel that instead of being a good neighbor, Pakistan kept interfering and added to their suffering.

Another major issue is the Durand Line, a border created by the British, which cuts through Afghan land and divides the Pashtun people between the two countries. Afghanistan has never officially accepted this border but Pakistan treats it as the official one. This has caused tension for decades. Afghans see it as a loss of their land and culture and Pakistan’s strict control over this border adds to the anger.

Lastly although Pakistan gave shelter to millions of Afghan refugees during the war, many of them faced mistreatment, police harassment and were even forced to return home. Afghans feel humiliated by how they were treated. On top of that Pakistan often blames Afghanistan for terrorism while Afghans believe its Pakistan who supports extremist groups. These political games, past betrayals and constant tension have led many Afghans to deeply distrust and dislike Pakistan.

Good Information. Thanks

When it comes to the instability in Pakistan and Afghanistan, a lot of the blame actually goes to the US, back in the day, they used Pakistan as a kind of puppet state to gain control over Afghanistan and counter the USSR since Afghanistan was aligned with the Soviets. So the US backed Pakistan in creating and supporting terrorist groups just to destabilize Afghanistan and fight the Soviet influence. But once their work was done, the US just walked away leaving both Pakistan and Afghanistan to deal with the mess. Even now both countries are struggling with terrorism, internal conflict and instability, all because of America's greed and short term goals.

Even our india is facing heat of terrorism thanks to US.

Originally posted by: Reeva_Mohan

This is top-notch satire. Btw who's this Max guy?

His X account is linked

Saw him for the first time

Out of context but thanks to our discussions.. CA forum is ranked 2.

Originally posted by: suhaaana

Yes, I am aware of the condition of XinXiang and Tibet. I was talking about their mainland too. See the pictures during covid and after that.. I think it's army which is deployed everytime anything happens.
My personal view is chinese military is either too good or too bad, so their fighting capabities are not clear but i know they also use some dirty tricks too.

Chinese army (PLA) is not deployed everywhere in cities but in daily life cities are definitely watched by police, people’s armed police (PAP) they handle protests, riots and security & CCTV cameras, facial recognition and phone tracking mostly in big cities. Army only comes during big emergencies like pandemics (like in wuhan during covid), natural disasters, major unrest or conflict

But in sensitive regions like xinjiang, tibet and hongong (earlier) the govt keeps extra tight control like more police and PAP forces are always present then people are watched more strictly & there is more army presence compared to normal cities especially in xinjiang due to past unrest

So china monitors the whole country but only sensitive areas have more boots on the ground. In normal cities, army is not active, only police and tech do the job.

I wonder what are rhe next steps...

https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1923283225079656487?t=8AhBwB63R02WeeU32Yn-xw&s=19

Originally posted by: Morana

How do you think the 0.5 front , communists and our minority population will react if these measures ( which are exactly what is needed to prevent terrorism in the country ) are implemented?? CAA , which is an extremely fair law , got such a hue and cry ?

Our problem is and was always within. In China, the people are in complete support of what the government is doing to Uyghur Muslims, because they know and understand it is for the welfare and progess of the country and its people.

@bold- This is the main problem in India. Idk why was there so much protest against CAA? Same would be there for UCC and even waqf amendment trial in SC. Any change govt tries to do, all the sickulars and minorities would be up in arms even and opposition toh hai hi to add fuel to the fire portraying govt as some villian trying to take away human rights or something. Not only within country bahar bhi jake sabko embarrass karte hain yeh log. No respect for the country at all. Aur aajkal toh everything and everyone goes to SC for anything govt does.