Understanding a Jogan - Page 2

you know, PW- there can never be "rules" for the mind- wht u can think and cannot think about. the mind has its own rules! However, in a serene place like an ashram, there is an atmosphere of "lightness and expansion" that calms the mind and it does not "obsess". Therefore, when one does seva there, the mind is occupied by the work at hand and does not dwell in the past. The present moment experience happens.

Originally posted by: blokes

pw- is that what Rads will be called at the ashram? A sevika simply means one who serves- does seva. I doubt there are any issues with being a "jogan" or a "sevak"/sevika (feminine). For a change she can do the "work" as seva not as "duty"- kartavya (a favorite word of Rads- apna kartavya nibha rahin hoon kanha!).
I still think this point will be a momentous one to transform Rads character. At the same time I do not want Dev to look like a wimp either- crying for his rads. I want him to own up to his love and come clean in front of samaj and say- no more vishaka or no more rads (anyways) I will dedicate my life to the prohit trust or some such thing- he can get friendly with Nandu and do some good for kids and elder people...

Originally posted by: jpalagrawal

Blokes interesting what you are saying here. Dev has some huge tests in front of him. Rad has been the only inspiration in his life to come out in the open and be honest and stand up against pressures from family and society. As I have always argued, Dev's love for Rad has defined him and given him and identity. But what will he do without Rads in the picture? Will he still be able to live in a way honest to his own desires? Vivek is manipulating him horribly saying that to honor Rad and her sacrifice you must live with Vish. Which way will he go?

okay!!! now I get it......
Thanks!!!!
Now...only time will say, whether being a sevika turns out to be a curse or a blessing in disguise for Radhika......
Actually the way panditji had put it to rads....u know....that YOU CANNOT EVEN THINK OF MARRIAGE...etc etc.... so, i thought that's the dead end we have come to!! goodness!!!!! 🤓

Very interesting and educating post, blokes.

Radhika has always been in bhakti yog(She has been a devotee all along), but she was lacking some gyan, so now is the time to get some gyan from the white haired sage. Once she gets sufficient knowledge, she will take karma yog and spring into action. She will approach Dev and together they will have raj yoga!!! 😊

What say!

a very interesting and informative post!

i could see that there was a way for Radhika to leave if she wanted to so the creatives are twisting and circling their way around her self imposed exile for a few weeks...

god this is going to be a painful few weeks!

yep!

Originally posted by: jasw

Very interesting and educating post, blokes.

Radhika has always been in bhakti yog(She has been a devotee all along), but she was lacking some gyan, so now is the time to get some gyan from the white haired sage. Once she gets sufficient knowledge, she will take karma yog and spring into action. She will approach Dev and together they will have raj yoga!!! 😊

What say!

Beautifully summarized! Exactly!!!

Originally posted by: jpalagrawal

Blokes interesting what you are saying here. Dev has some huge tests in front of him. Rad has been the only inspiration in his life to come out in the open and be honest and stand up against pressures from family and society. As I have always argued, Dev's love for Rad has defined him and given him and identity. But what will he do without Rads in the picture? Will he still be able to live in a way honest to his own desires? Vivek is manipulating him horribly saying that to honor Rad and her sacrifice you must live with Vish. Which way will he go?

JP: I think dev needs to do some introspection too and know that rads is in his every breath he takes- not an "exterior" object to be craved for. I think this separation, as much painful on us viewers will make him grow up too. I want him to stop his rona dhona too- I am glad that rads has stopped hers for the time being. He should also stop looking for her. Instead, cherish her memory and just do his responsibilities a hundred percent. For this I also want him to come clean with his family about his great love and tell them firmly that he and Vish are done for- no more "acting" and putting on a front of marital bliss- he needs to stop living a lie that is his marriage (real or not).

What is the big differenc between him dreaming of Rads beofr ehis marriage- smiling at the thought of her and every one of their initial interludes. He can remember the good times and derive the same joy and not get depressed that she is not "his"! If one has to remember, we may as well remember the good times than the bad! 😃

Originally posted by: pretty.woman

okay!!! now I get it......
Thanks!!!!
Now...only time will say, whether being a sevika turns out to be a curse or a blessing in disguise for Radhika......
Actually the way panditji had put it to rads....u know....that YOU CANNOT EVEN THINK OF MARRIAGE...etc etc.... so, i thought that's the dead end we have come to!! goodness!!!!! 🤓