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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: MJHTMonayaSajan


Another thing I also did not get was that if Marina was seriously so in love with Sir George, then why was she encouraging other men when she initially came there...It seemed like she had no objection to courting other men until she found out she was pregnant...maybe she just wanted to pass time until George gets back and not make any obviously questionable moves but it should have been shown more clearly...


I don't know. Personally, I think there's so much more to Kathony's storyline - that line is the least of it, so I don't mind if Simon and Daphne had to 'borrow' it to spice up theirs! 😆

Kathony won't miss it. There's a lot he says after the 'I burn for you' that is more iconic! 😳


I'm still miffed about Pen though. Knowing how hard it can be for a single woman to survive knowing that she's pregnant I would have expected her to show some more compassion towards Marina, but she seemed to be only driven by her love for Colin after initially professing to be Marina's friend. Granted, Marina went about it quite slyly and she should have been honest with Colin, but even so, I thought Pen would have understood her desperation - at least I wanted her to. It would have been nice to see some female bonding and solidarity there. Pen's actions of revealing Marina's truth seem catty and uncalled for given the huge consequences for Marina. Her remarks about the Featheringtons seems innocuous in comparison - just a bit of gentle ribbing about the color of their gowns.


I've only just watched Episode 1, and Marina discovers quite early on that she's pregnant. I think she accepts the courting, the suitors etc because that's what is expected of her. She has come to stay with the Featheringtons because she's expected to 'make a match'. It seems to me like she just goes with the flow, biding time until she heard news of George. She only becomes really desperate when her letters to him go unanswered. She thinks he no longer cares, and now has to find a way to hide her 'sin'. Her actions may seem shady and underhanded, but I do get her desperation. It's not so far removed from Daphne's. Daphne had her brothers to defend her honor and demand that Simon marries her - Marina has no one. She has to fend for herself.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: LizzieBennet


I don't know. Personally, I think there's so much more to Kathony's storyline - that line is the least of it, so I don't mind if Simon and Daphne had to 'borrow' it to spice up theirs! 😆

Kathony won't miss it. There's a lot he says after the 'I burn for you' that is more iconic! 😳


I'm still miffed about Pen though. Knowing how hard it can be for a single woman to survive knowing that she's pregnant I would have expected her to show some more compassion towards Marina, but she seemed to be only driven by her love for Colin after initially professing to be Marina's friend. Granted, Marina went about it quite slyly and she should have been honest with Colin, but even so, I thought Pen would have understood her desperation - at least I wanted her to. It would have been nice to see some female bonding and solidarity there. Pen's actions of revealing Marina's truth seem catty and uncalled for given the huge consequences for Marina. Her remarks about the Featheringtons seems innocuous in comparison - just a bit of gentle ribbing about the color of their gowns.


I've only just watched Episode 1, and Marina discovers quite early on that she's pregnant. I think she accepts the courting, the suitors etc because that's what is expected of her. She has come to stay with the Featheringtons because she's expected to 'make a match'. It seems to me like she just goes with the flow, biding time until she heard news of George. She only becomes really desperate when her letters to him go unanswered. She thinks he no longer cares, and now has to find a way to hide her 'sin'. Her actions may seem shady and underhanded, but I do get her desperation. It's not so far removed from Daphne's. Daphne had her brothers to defend her honor and demand that Simon marries her - Marina has no one. She has to fend for herself.


Haha you guys have me all excited about Kathony story.. Soo many of you saying its the best and greatest of all Bridgeton stories 😀😀


Eagerly waiting to read your reviews on next episodes from S1 too!

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: MJHTMonayaSajan


Haha you guys have me all excited about Kathony story.. Soo many of you saying its the best and greatest of all Bridgeton stories 😀😀


Eagerly waiting to read your reviews on next episodes from S1 too!


Ha ha- well, my expectations are high, but you never know with these show writers- whether they'll stay true to the source material or tweak it so much i won't recognize it!


Most people like Francesca's story the most. I've also seen Ben's story up there, but for me, it's always been Kathony. So we'll see. 😳

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Posted: 3 years ago

Bridgerton S1 E2



- Simon's birthing scene: why does Lady D tell the Duke to go to the Duchess? It wasn't the norm those days for men to be present during childbirth.

- My goodness - is that Simon's full name: Simon Arthur Henry 😆Fitzranulph Basset!

- "I have prepared her quite well," says Violet to Lady D. Ahh but you forgot to tell her about sex and how it works! 😆

- "If I were truly courting you I would not need flowers, only 5 minutes alone with you in the drawing room!" Ha! Simon! ☺️

- Because her condition is catching: Mama F to her girls! 😆 Seriously, these girls know nothing!

- Ahh PenEloise. Talking about accomplishments 😆 And babies! 😆

- And then E barges into the drawing room to ask loudly - how does a woman come to be with child? She got no chill! 😆

- C teasing E and then getting chastised by his mom, We were about to take our sticks out! 😆 This is the Bridgerton banter I wanted to see more of!

- A arrives with Berbrooke only to find the living room flooded with suitors!

- I find A addressing Daph as sister weird, can't remember if he did that in the books- it used to be Daphne or Daph I think..

- I liked the A and Simon sparring scene. Jonny and RJP were both good in it. "Family must come before all else!"

- Little Simon and his beastly dad fb scene. He calls him an imbecile, an idiot and a half-wit. Terrible man! 😡

- Pen and Marina scene. Marina and George met at the church and now he's in Spain fighting with Wellington. "Your condition was brought about by.?" "Love" Now if that doesn't confuse Pen even more, idk what will! 😆

- The Queen has invited Violet over!

- Lady D and Simon fb scene: She's his mom's dearest friend - I'd forgotten their connection.

Something about the way Adjoa emphasizes her dialogues is jarring

- Berbrooke: I have coveted your sister for her beauty , her grace

Simon: For her powerful right hook? 😆

- I like Lady D and Violet playing matchmakers

- I don't understand why Daph is pissed with Simon for telling A about Berbrooke? She's free of him now, isn't she?

- Berbrooke gets it again, this time from Simon. And another thing became clear - Simon's dad wanted an heir so bad he pressured his mother into giving him one at the cost of her life! And Simon lost the one person who could have loved him. Could this be another reason he did not want kids?

- FB scene: Lady D brings little Simon (soo cute!) to his father and he insults her - keep your bitch mouth shut! Wow did people then speak like this? 😲. Which brings me to - where was Simon and who took care of him until Lady D found him and took him with her? A governess appointed by his dad? Where did he live? Not at Hastings House. Then where?

- PenEloise discussing love and how it can get a lady pregnant! 😆

- A looks delish with all that mussed hair! ☺️

- Ahh S & D have a moment in the park ❤️ until Berbrooke arrives (again!)

- Berbrooke is blackmailing D into marrying him, threatening her family that he will expose the fact that they were alone in the Dark walk to Lady W. So distasteful! I hate the fact that women should feel so helpless by even the tiniest threat to their reputation that they have to go along with the most hideous of solutions! And I also hate the fact that the ton is so wary of Lady W! - her pen seems to me more a poison Pen (Pun intended! 😆) I hate the fact that Pen who's essentially a good person should stand for something so ruthless and catty.


- V wants her kids to have love- like she did with Edmund.

- Ahh my fav pair of siblings - BenEloise! El sneaking a smoke in the backyard! 😆 They both want something 'different'- different from the norm, and I love it!


- V meets the Queen who is all but an eccentric isn't she? Eccentrics in positions of power are a scary lot! And Brimsley is a gossip Now why couldn't he be Lady W 😆?)

- Lady Berbrooke: God did not bless me with another child because perfection had already been achieved 🤣


- Oh man, V is devious. Gets the downstairs to snoop and finds out that dear Nigel has sired a b**tard!

- And the gossip is out, and Berbrooke has to leave town. The ladies together have achieved what the gentlemen could not. Vi puts A in his place and he has no choice but to bow and walk away! 👏 (But boy do I feel the tiniest bit sorry for him! 😆)


- Eloise and Daph scene: Daph playing the older sister and trying to assuage El's fears of marriage and childbirth, reminiscing about how Vi had to give birth to Hyacinth alone after Edmund's death. And then El delivers her final jibe: must be tiring to keep pretending!


- Ahh that dance. Both S and D are drawn to each other! Phoebe's expressions are great here, that tiny hitching of breath when he touches her bare back. Perfectly done! ☺️


- Simon stares at D as he stands with Lady D and watches her dance. RJP did well here, I can see the longing he conveys. He knows he can never give her what she wants - a family.

And then fb to Simon's dad dying and then Simon making his vow- The Hastings line dies with me. Powerful scene and I could sense the quiet menace in Simon's tone, how much he hates his dad.


Okay, overall a good episode though I wish they had spent more time building up on Simon and Daphne's friendship than on defeating Berbrooke.

Edited by LizzieBennet - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: LizzieBennet

Bridgerton S1 E2



- Simon's birthing scene: why does Lady D tell the Duke to go to the Duchess? It wasn't the norm those days for men to be present during childbirth.

I think they were trying to emphasis how it **should** be, just like many other tweaks in the traditions.

- My goodness - is that Simon's full name: Simon Arthur Henry 😆Fitzranulph Basset!

- "I have prepared her quite well," says Violet to Lady D. Ahh but you forgot to tell her about sex and how it works! 😆

- "If I were truly courting you I would not need flowers, only 5 minutes alone with you in the drawing room!" Ha! Simon! ☺️

I am not sure I got the meaning of this correct though! Does he mean he is so good in *those* things that that is all he would need to impress a Lady?

- Because her condition is catching: Mama F to her girls! 😆 Seriously, these girls know nothing!

- Ahh PenEloise. Talking about accomplishments 😆 And babies! 😆

- And then E barges into the drawing room to ask loudly - how does a woman come to be with child? She got no chill! 😆

"I thought one had to be married...apparently thats not even a requirement" 😆 But I do find it weird that these girls haven't even got a clue about how this works...I mean..Daphne did mention she is aware of her brother's "lifestyle", she did faintly understand what Simon meant by "5 mins alone in the living room"....Her references to "The Dark walk", punching berbrooke for trying to get close to her...are they trying to say these ladies are so dumb not to put 2+2 together? Surely they must have seen their younger brothers have something different than them (at least Daph, who is the eldest, must have changed her baby brother's diapers)...like seriously...even when I didn't know the exact details, even as a 10-12 yr old with no access to internet, I had an idea what it must be about...how are these girls soo clueless??

- C teasing E and then getting chastised by his mom, We were about to take our sticks out! 😆 This is the Bridgerton banter I wanted to see more of!

- A arrives with Berbrooke only to find the living room flooded with suitors!

- I find A addressing Daph as sister weird, can't remember if he did that in the books- it used to be Daphne or Daph I think..

- I liked the A and Simon sparring scene. Jonny and RJP were both good in it. "Family must come before all else!"

- Little Simon and his beastly dad fb scene. He calls him an imbecile, an idiot and a half-wit. Terrible man! 😡

- Pen and Marina scene. Marina and George met at the church and now he's in Spain fighting with Wellington. "Your condition was brought about by.?" "Love" Now if that doesn't confuse Pen even more, idk what will! 😆

- The Queen has invited Violet over!

- Lady D and Simon fb scene: She's his mom's dearest friend - I'd forgotten their connection.

Something about the way Adjoa emphasizes her dialogues is jarring

Jarring in a good way?

- Berbrooke: I have coveted your sister for her beauty , her grace

Simon: For her powerful right hook? 😆

- I like Lady D and Violet playing matchmakers

- I don't understand why Daph is pissed with Simon for telling A about Berbrooke? She's free of him now, isn't she?

I think she knows Berbrooke is very entitled and is counting on the fact that Daph or anyone else will not open their mouth as Daphne's reputation will be ruined by it more than his...Now that he sees Simon is not bound by these conditions and is not scared to spill the truth, he will take an even extreme step (which he does in the picnic scene)

- Berbrooke gets it again, this time from Simon. And another thing became clear - Simon's dad wanted an heir so bad he pressured his mother into giving him one at the cost of her life! And Simon lost the one person who could have loved him. Could this be another reason he did not want kids?

You know I was thinking that....the limitations of medical science at the time, any person who loves their wife should want to not have kids lol...I was seriously like Lord Bridgerton thought of making Lady B pregnant with Hyacinth so late and they call it "pure love"?? It was also apparent from Daphne-Eliose convo once that that childbirth was not easy for Lady B. I think that could be one of the reasons for Simon, as in one of the later scenes, he tells Daphne "Trust me, its for your own good"... How can anyone be so obsessed with kids that they are not scared of the actual process of giving birth? Or is Daph not aware of how baby is delivered too?? I remember ever since I knew of that process, I have been terrified and my only solace was that c-section is an option (which was not available for these ladies then)...the more and more I think abt it, the more I find Daphne dumb lol..I should just stop over-analyzing and enjoy the serial for what it is 😆

- FB scene: Lady D brings little Simon (soo cute!) to his father and he insults her - keep your bitch mouth shut! Wow did people then speak like this? 😲. Which brings me to - where was Simon and who took care of him until Lady D found him and took him with her? A governess appointed by his dad? Where did he live? Not at Hastings House. Then where?

- PenEloise discussing love and how it can get a lady pregnant! 😆

- A looks delish with all that mussed hair! ☺️

- Ahh S & D have a moment in the park ❤️ until Berbrooke arrives (again!)

- Berbrooke is blackmailing D into marrying him, threatening her family that he will expose the fact that they were alone in the Dark walk to Lady W. So distasteful! I hate the fact that women should feel so helpless by even the tiniest threat to their reputation that they have to go along with the most hideous of solutions! And I also hate the fact that the ton is so wary of Lady W! - her pen seems to me more a poison Pen (Pun intended! 😆) I hate the fact that Pen who's essentially a good person should stand for something so ruthless and catty.

Unfortunately, not a lot has changed even in the 21st century where protecting a girl's reputation is considered more important that filing a case against a rapist...sad reality we live in...

- V wants her kids to have love- like she did with Edmund.

- Ahh my fav pair of siblings - BenEloise! El sneaking a smoke in the backyard! 😆 They both want something 'different'- different from the norm, and I love it!

Ok seriously, E can secure a cigar but not get *that* info...Pen can setup the entire supply chain to print and distribute her newspapers while not revealing her identity but can't find *that* info...the main condition that drives this story is really really absurd to me

- V meets the Queen who is all but an eccentric isn't she? Eccentrics in positions of power are a scary lot! And Brimsley is a gossip Now why couldn't he be Lady W 😆?)

- Lady Berbrooke: God did not bless me with another child because perfection had already been achieved 🤣

And Daph's expression on that 🤣

- Oh man, V is devious. Gets the downstairs to snoop and finds out that dear Nigel has sired a b**tard!

- And the gossip is out, and Berbrooke has to leave town. The ladies together have achieved what the gentlemen could not. Vi puts A in his place and he has no choice but to bow and walk away! 👏 (But boy do I feel the tiniest bit sorry for him! 😆)

Thats one good thing abt this show...time and again they have shown ladies having more brains and wisdom than men...

- Eloise and Daph scene: Daph playing the older sister and trying to assuage El's fears of marriage and childbirth, reminiscing about how Vi had to give birth to Hyacinth alone after Edmund's death. And then El delivers her final jibe: must be tiring to keep pretending!


- Ahh that dance. Both S and D are drawn to each other! Phoebe's expressions are great here, that tiny hitching of breath when he touches her bare back. Perfectly done! ☺️

And then she telling him "I wish to find a husband, and have children" re-instating that this (their pairing) would never work... It was a great scene...they being drawn to each other, having a moment and then Daphne comes back to reality first and her line brings Simon back to reality as well..."Then lets find you a husband" and they walk away...everything shown so subtly yet so powerfully

- Simon stares at D as he stands with Lady D and watches her dance. RJP did well here, I can see the longing he conveys. He knows he can never give her what she wants - a family.

And the stutter that comes back everytime he is nervous..

And then fb to Simon's dad dying and then Simon making his vow- The Hastings line dies with me. Powerful scene and I could sense the quiet menace in Simon's tone, how much he hates his dad.


Okay, overall a good episode though I wish they had spent more time building up on Simon and Daphne's friendship than on defeating Berbrooke.


Nice to see your S1E2 review :D

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Posted: 3 years ago

Does he mean he is so good in *those* things that that is all he would need to impress a Lady?


I think so! 😆 Simon is a rake and he knows what it means to truly pleasure a woman, so I think that's what he's hinting at!



Daphne did mention she is aware of her brother's "lifestyle", she did faintly understand what Simon meant by "5 mins alone in the living room"...


I think Daphne knows the rudimentaries but not the details. Like she knows wifely duties mean something, and that things happen between a man and a woman, but that's it. I'm surprised none of them tries to find out though, like you said earlier by probing a few maids! Or even finding some well-illustrated anatomy books in the library. 😆


Something about the way Adjoa emphasizes her dialogues is jarring

Jarring in a good way?


Not in a good way, no. I thought she was literally spitting out the dialogues in that scene in a bid to be emphatic!


I think she knows Berbrooke is very entitled and is counting on the fact that Daph or anyone else will not open their mouth as Daphne's reputation will be ruined by it more than his...Now that he sees Simon is not bound by these conditions and is not scared to spill the truth, he will take an even extreme step (which he does in the picnic scene)


This actually makes sense, and yes it highlights how much more privileged men are, especially men in positions of power like Simon as compared to Daphne, even though she also belongs to the gentry.


You know I was thinking that....the limitations of medical science at the time, any person who loves their wife should want to not have kids lol...I was seriously like Lord Bridgerton thought of making Lady B pregnant with Hyacinth so late and they call it "pure love"?? It was also apparent from Daphne-Eliose convo once that that childbirth was not easy for Lady B.


I don't want to give away spoilers from the book without asking if you'd be okay with it, but Daph, Anthony, Gregory - all have trajectories you'd be surprised at. The second epilogues are written about their lives several years later, and the kids they had.

Yeah I agree about Vi, but she married very young and Anthony was born when she was only 18. She was 37 when she was pregnant with Hyacinth which is not very old. I think Hyacinth's birth must have been more difficult because Edmund died when she was pregnant, and that must have added to the stress.


Ok seriously, E can secure a cigar but not get *that* info...Pen can setup the entire supply chain to print and distribute her newspapers while not revealing her identity but can't find *that* info...the main condition that drives this story is really really absurd to me


That's true. It is galling that the entire premise of the story falls apart if it weren't for this wafer-thin plot point.


Thats one good thing abt this show...time and again they have shown ladies having more brains and wisdom than men...


Shonda has said it's about the female gaze and tbh it's not hard to tell that the show is designed from a woman's PoV. They do have tough women like the Queen, and Lady D, and even Violet. And Kate. Yes. I'm waiting for Kate to throw Anthony off his high-horse! 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago

Not in a good way, no. I thought she was literally spitting out the dialogues in that scene in a bid to be emphatic!

Lol yeah 😆


This actually makes sense, and yes it highlights how much more privileged men are, especially men in positions of power like Simon as compared to Daphne, even though she also belongs to the gentry.


Yeah, I was initially thinking how nice it would be for these women, they don't have to cook, Daphne didn't even know how to turn on the stove..they have a personal maid to get them ready, escort them everywhere, hold their gowns and what not....but then when I think about all the restrictions they had to live with and society's expectations from them, it must feel like a golden prison


I don't want to give away spoilers from the book without asking if you'd be okay with it, but Daph, Anthony, Gregory - all have trajectories you'd be surprised at. The second epilogues are written about their lives several years later, and the kids they had.


Oh, maybe don't say anything about Anthony and Gregory since I haven't read the books and plan to watch the show but regarding Daph, is the spoiler related to any parts that would be coming in future? If not, spill the beans please 😊


That's true. It is galling that the entire premise of the story falls apart if it weren't for this wafer-thin plot point.

🤪


Looking forward for your S1E3 review 😃

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: MJHTMonayaSajan


Oh, maybe don't say anything about Anthony and Gregory since I haven't read the books and plan to watch the show but regarding Daph, is the spoiler related to any parts that would be coming in future? If not, spill the beans please 😊

Idk what they will cover in the show, so it's hard to tell.

The second epilogues are different for each sibling. For some it's the immediate aftermath of the wedding, for others it's several years. So Daph and Simon's second epilogue may well make it to the show - but idk how they'll do that since RJP isn't coming back (unless they recast both D and S when they're older)

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Posted: 3 years ago

Bridgerton S1 E3


I actually watched E3 and E4 together, not stopping to pen down my thoughts, and I'm surprised at how much happens in these two episodes.

I think they might be my favorite episodes in this season.

Lots of progress for most of the characters.


Ep #3


- Starts with Daph's dream and ooooh it's sexy - especially when he pulls off her glove and caresses her hand! ☺️☺️

- And then it's followed by Daph lusting after Simon licking his spoon. Noice! 😆☢️ No wonder this episode is called 'Art of the Swoon'!

- Idk why Marina is being kept in confinement though? Ladies go into confinement only after the 7th or 8th month of pregnancy. What's she hoping to achieve by locking her up in the room and telling everyone she's sick?

- I loved the Bridgerton drawing room scene- so many little things happening- Daph pushing Ben off the sofa he's sprawled on so she can sit next to him, A swatting Gregory with his newspaper when he swipes a little tart from his table, all of their expressions! I live for Brigderton siblings' bantering!

- Another ball: London is simply one ball after another! 😆

- S and D walk in together and D soon realizes all the men she's dancing with are utter bores!

- And here comes Prince Friedrich - he's cute! And nice!

- S guesses what the Prince must be telling Cressida about her gown and he says the exact same thing to Daph and she giggles, much to the Queen's disapproval!

- I did not care for RJP's expressions in this scene. Like I said before, he's great at playing angry, passionate and impassive, but anything else leaves me wanting. Especially when he's conveying mirth and joy. Something really off about him in such scenes.

- Madame Delacroix and Siena are friends. 😲 They're discussing who could be Siena's new protector. Idk why, I don't think Siena really cares for Anthony other than seeing him as someone who can provide for her. I think A shows more emotional attachment. For Siena it seems to be more about survival and looking after herself. I confess I did not like her mocking Anthony.

- Papa F loses to A at the gambling table. A and S have a conversation where A tells him he's glad he's respectful towards D and yet he knows he will never marry, when Siena walks in. A moves away and she tries to lure Simon into being her protector, asking him to come to one of her shows.

- I like the A and Daph scene - where they talk in the kitchen over some milk, after being defeated by the stove! 😆 The gentry are completely useless! 😆 But Daph now realizes a few things about Simon and feels compassion I guess.

- Daphne's gowns are so pretty. I love the pale blue one she's wearing while playing the piano.

A metaphor for the unfinished piece she's working on, and then after Simon directs her, she ends up 'finishing'. I see what you did there, Bridgerton writers! 😆


- If I haven't said it before I'll say it now - Julie Andrews as Lady W rocks! Idk how they managed to get her on board, but she's fabulous!


- They're going to a gallery- a painting exhibition.

- El and Pen looking at a painting, and El vocalizing her disdain for it because it was done by a man who sees a woman as an object (like a vase 😆). I love fiercely feminist El.

- Marina begging Pen to help her while Mama F drags her to meet some old fogie. Her logic: The oldies will be ready to marry her immediately since they are in want of a heir while her young suitors will take time to propose and time is something she doesn't have. I like Marina being sassy though- she has spirit!


- Ahh Lady D being cheeky - allowing Ben to rattle on about how bad the painting is when Lord Granville - the artist, is right next to her 😆 No wonder he's chagrined. This is the kind of Lady D stuff I want to see more of in the show. The books have plenty!

- D and S in a room looking at the paintings - "Excessive pride suits you, Ms. Bridgerton"

They are studying a painting that Simon donated - favorite of his mother's, there's some soul baring and they gravitate towards each other, their hands link. Subtle scene.


Cressida fakes a swoon, the Prince is fanning her and Daph giggles again at Simon's cheeky comment. Cute.

Annd Simon decides not to go to the opera - Siena is left high and dry. I know she's from the working class, struggling to survive in a society that's so harsh on women, but I find it difficult to muster any sympathy for her. Perhaps it's the actress. Idk. For Marina, yes, I can feel her plight, because Ruby plays her well.

- The Queen wants Friedrich to woo Daphne since she's the incomparable. I feel sorry for him too, he's nice but too blah.

- Mama F brings Marina to a shady part of town, telling her this is what her life will be like and M scoffs! And says these are hard-working people! No shame in being like them! You go, girl! 👏


- They're walking in the park with Vi and Lady D as chaperons. Idk why, I keep feeling RJP is so out of it. Like he's not involved, not really in the scene. Almost like he'd rather be elsewhere. It's strange. But they're discussing his and A's boyhood exploits and it's cute too.

"How can something be both physical and intangible?"

And this is when he asks her to touch herself - and she is shocked, confused and aroused all at once. Phoebe's expression is perfect in this.


- Lady D swatting Simon with her stick and demanding to know his intentions about Daph. 😆

- El and Ben convo again. She really got no chill- she's born in the wrong era for sure! "If you want the sun and the moon, all you've got to do is shoot at the sky! Some of us cannot!"

She's telling him to pursue his art, go out and get what he wants so she can live vicariously through him. Oh El! 😒 And then Ben asks her if she's Lady W, and she replies just as I expected - Do you think I'll admit it?
I love these BenEloise scenes, it's a nice set-up for what comes later in El's story. (If they get that far!)


- Daph is on a high after that night of 'completion' and she goes to meet Simon eagerly, only for him to tell her they should stop seeing each other now that their ruse has had the desired effect. 'Before I corrupt you any further.." he says. Oh, Simon, you have no idea! 😆


- Anthony- Siena scene: He tells her to come back to him, she says, "You are Viscount. Your responsibility will always be to that title above all else!'


- Pen brings Marina a letter from George and she's shattered, only because of the vile scheming of Mama F and Varley who have forged it to say he's not interested in her! 😡


- A and Vi scene: She's being a tad unkind here I thought, she brings him a list of eligible young women and then 'taunts' him about his father's watch- the heirloom. I suppose she's trying to say he'd better focus on getting himself a bride and a heir. "Time is of the essence"


- Another ball. Simon and Lady D talking and he tells her he's leaving London. Pen's gown is a hideous yellow. I wish her hair didn't have to look like that though. They certainly seem to want to make her look unappealing. I guess as a set-up to Colin's famous statement regarding her. Marina's gown is yellow too, but so pretty!


- Daph makes a grand entrance and everyone is awed. And the Prince is smitten! Simon's expression says it all. "Why settle for a duke when you could have a prince?" says Lady W.


I really liked this episode. So much happened and there was progress with Daph and Simon.

I hate Anthony vacillating between Siena and his duty as a Viscount. Book!Anthony has a reason not to want to fall in love, but here he seems to be so obsessed with Siena! The book was about Kate breaking down his defenses, but here he seems to have no defenses. 😔

Idk how they're going to play this out in S2. I really hate the Siena storyline. If they had to have it, they could have just shown it as a casual relationship - like in the books. But they made it look like A was heartbroken, and made him too heavily invested in her. Not what I wanted to see....

Edited by LizzieBennet - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

S1 E4


- Vi and Daphne arrive to meet the Prince. I loved Vi sneaking food - naughty of her!

The Prince gives Daph a necklace! And she imagines Simon putting it on her ☺️


- Simon meanwhile is letting out his frustrations on a punching bag! Will and Alice convince him to stay (and not leave town) for the boxing exhibition. I like Will, and Alice is sassy - What? You don't love me for my subtlety! 😆


- Yeww that odious Rutledge inspecting Marina gave me the creeps! They're going to the Trowbridge Ball. Papa F is so out of it, he couldn't care less, and later it becomes clear why


- And Mr. Finch arrives to pay a call to Phillippa! The look on their faces! 😆


- PenEloise again: Why must our only choices be to squawk and settle or never leave the nest? What if I want to fly? - Oh El. They short-changed you in your book. I hope the series does you justice, my girl!

You scoff at marriage and the mundane, but, but, your fate says something else. 😒

Tell your mother you caught whatever Marina had! 😆 Yeah , no!


- Daph arrives with A for the boxing match. She sits with the Prince, who's backing the guy fighting Will, Daph makes lusty eyes at Simon rolling up his sleeves. Jesus! They just had to make her salivate. That was the only thing left 😆

The Prince seems just perfect, but oh so vanilla!


- Papa F (as usual) wagers on the loser, and has people wanting to collect money from him clamoring after him. (Did he bet their money too?)


- Poor Hyacinth- she gets snapped at by Daph for asking about the Duke. She seems too sweet to be the Hyacinth from the books! Ahh I'm going to miss Felicity and Hyacinth together! Can they bring her in later? And say she had been away visiting an aunt or a grandparent or whatever?

#PetitiontohaveHyacinthandFelicitybeingBFFs


- And then A comes in with the news that the Prince plans to propose. Vi recognizes that S is more suited to Daph so she demurs and asks Daph to stall. I love Vi! She gets her kids so well. Though I wish she'd be nicer to A (Maybe this season)


- And then Daph tells Vi the truth - that it was all a ruse between them. Vi cannot believe it.


- Lady D giving S a piece of her mind for running away is everything! 👏 And there is the mention of the King's inter-racial marriage and how it has allowed Blacks an equal status in society. Too easy, but then this is a romance, it does not need an accurate depiction of history. People can go watch something else if they want that.

"Love changes nothing" says Simon. Is he in love with Daph at this point? She certainly seems to be in love with him.


- Ok, don't come at me but I find Mr. Finch and Philippa cute. Silly maybe, but cute 😆

Your frock is the exact shade of the double Gloucester your mother served

I prefer a Stilton to a Cheddar 🤣 Bonding over their common love for cheese!!


- This maybe an unpopular opinion but I dislike Daphne's outfit here, especially that black fichu she has on. It looks sloppy.


- Ben arriving at Lord Granville's and seeing the amazing set -up. I think he's taken aback by the invitation and the open encouragement. Here's the set -up for Ben always seeming unsure of his station in life, being the second son. Anthony bears the responsibility so what exactly is it that Ben should do? Lord G assures him he can be whomever he wants and that, for Ben, I guess is freeing.


- Anthony staring at Siena singing even as his mother thrusts a young debutante at his face. Poor A!


- Awww, poor Philippa is heartbroken cos her stupid Papa is being the 'cheese mein haddi' 😆 Or maybe Cheese mein hole? 🤣 I could sense Mama F's frustration and anger here! That man is an idiot!


- El being told off by the housekeeper (Is her name Mrs. Wilson?) for snooping around her room because she thinks she's Lady W, and El (bless her heart) asks her outright, only to be scoffed at. I know the woman has been a servant for long, but I don't think any servant would speak to a noble lady (even if she changed her diapers) the way this woman did to El. But yes, it was good to see her standing up for herself!


- Pen and Colin discussing the squalling baby (seriously, who brings a baby to a ball?) and Pen saying the baby looks more like the footman! Aah, now I see where the Lady W wit and sass and (cattiness) come from! Colin is surprised too. And then she inadvertently ends up pushing Colin towards Marina.

Nicola does the longing looks well at least, unlike Luke who just cannot seem to emote! Too bad - Colin is among my fav characters from the books. 😒


- The Prince is about to propose and Daph runs out - scared, and bamm! there's Simon.

Then follows their famous argument. This is a pivotal scene. And both RJP and Phoebe carry it off well. RJP shows the initial helplessness at Daph's anger and then gets angry himself chasing after her, and then he's immediately apologetic when he realizes that he kissed her. All well conveyed. Pheobe does well on her part too- her raging at Simon, huffing that she's going to be a princess, wanting to convey to him that she's happy without him and then realizing she's actually miserable - then rushing off in a huff, and then amazement that he kissed her and then determination when she realizes she wants more and takes it.👍🏼

The kiss itself left me curiously dissatisfied though. It's described better in the book (as I recall) and Anthony catching them in the act is much more scandalous (and embarrassing for him! 😆 given Daph's state of - ermm -undress). And of course he demands that Simon marry her, and when he refuses demands satisfaction.


- The shock on Daph's face says it all - You'd rather die than marry me? She asks, incredulous and shattered.


- Mama F and Varley are hunting through Papa F's papers. Everything was fine until Papa F blew off Mr. Finch, Philippa's only suitor! Intolerable man!


- Pen and Marina scene in her bedroom. Marina being all excited about Colin and Pen's face. Ok, I did not like Marina's glee here, I feel it was misplaced. It made her seem like a hunter and it conveyed none of the desperation she must be feeling at her condition. I get Pen being upset here, M does sound like she's using Colin. At the same time, this might have been a good time for Pen to tell Marina that she does not support her leading on someone like Colin, and getting him under false pretenses.


- Then the PenEloise scene happens and Pen basically yells at El, so the BFFs end up having a tiff because of Colin and Marina. You see how much I hate this storyline? I think I probably hate it more than the Anthony-Siena one. They ruined Pen (and to an extent Colin) for me with how she behaved in this entire scenario, and idk if I can ever feel the same towards her. Why, o Why couldn't Marina have cast her eye on someone else? Why Colin? Colin wasn't supposed to have ever been in love, like Anthony, and here they made it like they both have - so Pen and Kate will feel like sloppy seconds! WTF 🤢


- Anthony and Daph scene back at Bridgerton House. Oh I love the sibling banter. "I can't live with the Duke's death on my hands. Nor yours, however tempting that might be at the moment!" 😆

And then Anthony- the overbearing idiot, just pushes her off to bed. I love Daph's frustration here as she stomps and snorts in fury while Ben and A plan the duel - Ben is his second and you cannot miss the dismay on his face when A tells him he'll be in charge from here on no matter what happens at the duel. He does not want the responsibility, and it tells me here how much Anthony has had to take on since their father's death. It definitely made him what he is today.


- Then Vi comes in piss drunk and Colin ushers her up the stairs and they call Colin in. "Good God! Did someone die?" he says. This was funny!


- Simon asks Will to be his second.

And then Anthony realizes this duel can be his means of escape - escaping his title, his responsibility and make a new start with the woman he 'loves'? I want to hit him on the head with a sharp instrument for assuming he'd be the victor in the duel and give Siena (and himself) unnecessary hope, but then I also love the fact that he's so darn human here, and shows that frailty that he's kept so carefully hidden, always being strong for the family.


- Papa F discovers that Mama F knows everything! And breaks down. I love both Ben Miller and Polly Walker's expressions here, they made me laugh. And Papa F's name is Archibald! 😆

- Yes, Daph. Go take charge. Show these damn fool men what fools they are! 😆


- A telling Ben to take care of Siena if anything should happen to him. Ben is truly worried and asks the doc where A should aim? You're either a fool or the King's finest marksman - says the doc. Ngl, this made me chuckle.


- They move forward and then turn around. Simon has his rifle in the air but A is in no mood to be forgiving, when Daph rides into the path of the bullet. Simon is terrified she's hurt.


Then they move away to have a chat, she tells him she'll be ruined because Cressida Cowper saw them and he still refuses. She cannot believe it until he tells her he cannot give her a family and walks away.

Again, RJP's expressions were off here, imo. 😕

And then Daph declares that they are to be married. Phoebe was good in this scene.


Good episode again, lots of action and lots of development!

Edited by LizzieBennet - 3 years ago

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