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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Hello behno!


So here I am with my pakaoing session on Grey's Anatomy. Bwhahahahahaha! 😈 😈 😈


The reason I loved this episode so so much is for three reasons -


First, they addressed mental health issue and how every person suffers and projects grief differently


Second, the backstory of Teddy and Allison and why Teddy is still mourning the death of the love of her life since the last 20 years.


Third, Amelia being the advocate of us audiences and putting Owen to his place which I have been wishing since Season 15 when he broke her heart.


Now, the negative portion for me was Teddy's recovery. Someone who had gone into a catatonic state, her making everything work in her own mind and snapping out of it within an episode was weird. But I hope she gets some professional help in the later episodes as the actors have hinted.


And second, this episode would make much more sense in the last season itself if they showed Teddy's insecurity in parallel with Amelia's because both the women were victims of trauma for decades, even though their forms were different.


In this episode Teddy was trapped inside her mind. Blaming herself for everything that had gone wrong. Even Andrew, who died because of a stab wound and Teddy did a flawless repair of his damage but lost him anyway, she kept blaming herself saying she was the one who killed him and kept going back in time where she could do things differently. And the worst part is, whatever she did it ended in catastrophe. The good part though was that she realized she loved Owen and her insecurity would never leave her because in their relationship Owen always took her for granted. Which is why Teddy always felt she was not good enough. Amelia and more importantly Christina would always be his first choice.


So the weird chasing kept happening and we finally got to see the exact moment when or why she fell in love with Allison who was an extremely kind and compassionate woman.

On the morning of 9/11 she offered Teddy to make her pancakes but Teddy had to go to the hospital. A couple of hours later, she watched on TV how Twin Tower fell and that's where Allison worked.

Ever since then she has blamed herself. For not staying at home that day because then Allison wouldn't die. And in her mind she did things differently. She told her how much she loved her and that they should tell Claire (Allison's partner) about there affair because Claire could hate Teddy but not her, no one in the world could ever hate Allison because it was impossible to do anything but love her. But she died even in the dream version.


That's where Mer popped up, obviously because she is Teddy's latest patient and Teddy once told her about Allison. She pointed out how Teddy always runs from her grief and she should accept life as a package deal because she can't avoid harm. She could not save her parents or Allison or Andrew because they were tragic casualties. She could only learn to accept it and move forward.


And they showed her finally waking up from her bed.


I loved this portion so much because when I am conflicted even with the minute things, I play it in my mind over and over and it's like I am questioning and I myself am answering to it. I think pretty much everyone does that. So showing what was going inside her head was a beautiful thing. Plus, Kevin is an extremely talented director and he is the one who plays Owen. He knows the minute details and the way he incorporated them in her dreamy world and the aesthetics - it was mindblowing.


Coming to Amelia, in Teddy's own word she is an incredibly kind person. This woman has lost her father, fiance, her son and her brother in horrible tragedies and she has hit rock bottom more than anyone. That is the reason she knows what trauma can do to people.


She has never hold any grudge against Christina nor Teddy. Love can happen more than once and when she realized Owen loved Teddy more than her, she ended her relationship with dignity. When the whole hospital s**t-shamed Teddy for cheating on Owen she was the only one who showed Teddy kindness. And even in this particular episode when Owen went on and on about how Teddy was still in love with Allison and didn't deserve his forgiveness she pointed out the worst thing Owen had done in his entire life, choking Christina when he was asleep during one of his PTSD episodes.


She pointed out that losing the love of your life and that too in a horrific tragedy is not a simple thing. Teddy must have had PTSD from that incident and she didn't need judgement, she needed help.


But she was also compassionate enough to let Owen know that she wasn't just blindly taking Teddy's side. She loved him too and for his own betterment he needed to forgive Teddy. He had forgiven her once, he could do it with Teddy also. After that whether he would want to give Teddy a chance or not, that would be his choice.


So that's how it ended.


What do you guys thing about the PTSD and its effect?

Wow!! I must say, I am really impressed with the entire sequence of events that you described.

Tbh, I don't have much idea on PTSD and its effect. So, I can't give my POV about that...

Rest, I'm really impressed with the characters that you described, the entire sequence where Teddy was looking for alternate scenarios but all ended up in a disaster there too... This portion somewhat reminded me of the movie Talaash.

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Posted: 4 years ago

I was thinking about Charmed because there too Paige tried to save her parents from an accident but it happened anyway. But I guess the bottom line was - people die and bad things happen to good people. Teddy couldn't keep blaming herself for that. She had to face the reality as it is and move forward.


And honestly, I watched Pagglait just after that where again they pointed out how different people grieve differently, so both the show and movie have had an cumulative effect on me.


No offence but cheating and doing other bad stuff has no excuse. But no one is a vamp. You never know why does an extremely good person end up doing such horrific stuff to the people they love.


So the way they addressed this issue - it was mindblowing. 👏 👏 👏


I want to share the clips now... 😛

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Posted: 4 years ago

I was thinking about Charmed because there too Paige tried to save her parents from an accident but it happened anyway. But I guess the bottom line was - people die and bad things happen to good people. Teddy couldn't keep blaming herself for that. She had to face the reality as it is and move forward.

That's true. People die and bad things do happen to good people... That's the reality. One can't keep on blaming oneself for that. And like you said, she had to face the reality and move forward.


And honestly, I watched Pagglait just after that where again they pointed out how different people grieve differently, so both the show and movie have had an cumulative effect on me.

Understandable.


No offence but cheating and doing other bad stuff has no excuse. But no one is a vamp. You never know why does an extremely good person end up doing such horrific stuff to the people they love.

So the way they addressed this issue - it was mindblowing. 👏 👏 👏

Agreed. Cheating and other bad stuff definitely has no excuse... but as you mention, no one is a vamp. Even an extremely good person can end up doing such horrific stuff.

So, I'm glad they addressed that issue too...


I want to share the clips now... 😛

Sure... 👍🏼


Have my bakwas on BVR in store for you... 😈

Will post it a little later cos abhi thodi der ke liye jaana hai...

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Posted: 4 years ago

Sure... 👍🏼

Abhi PM karte hain. 😈


Have my bakwas on BVR in store for you... 😈

Will post it a little later cos abhi thodi der ke liye jaana hai...

Sure! 👍🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago

Okay, so here I am with my bakwas on yesterday's episode...

Tim ne ek move mein baazi palat di. This is something that I like... try karte hi rehte hain; be it BV and team or Tim.

So, BV and team had locked the other three doors of Illuha using the other three keys and hence Tim wasn't able to open the 4th door.

BV left his body outside and went inside the Maze in his spirit form to crack a deal with Tim asking her to either let go off the 4th key or remain stuck in the Maze forever.

FB: Vivaan and fairies had created an illusion of Karuna ji and taken the real one to VL where they took out the three keys from her body.

At KL, R and BM realised that the KJ they had was merely an illusion.

Using the three keys, BV, V, VP and JP attracted the 4th key weakening Tim a bit. She was ready to surrender the 4th key and did so.

They went to VL and handed over the keys to Shaurya. And went to BN to celebrate Holi... Finally dono leads ko bhi Holi khelne ka mauka mil hi gaya.

TM attacked R and BM in anger... magic se gala pakad kar hawa mein latka diya dono ko.

Then, she went inside, opened the 4th door and got the Shakti Punj... And then went off to announce her arrival to BV and V. Both were shocked to see that she got the "Anant Urja" and that she can now control all the five elements, 10 directions and 3 kaals, present, past and future.

Tim reveals that she had created an illusion of VL and Shaurya was none other than her panther, Akroor.

Precap: First promo... Tim wreaking havoc, S not having a solution etc.


Now, I have some confusions too...

• If all R and BM wanted was to blackmail VL team for those keys, they could have fed the keys to anyone... I know KJ is the most important person but I'm still wondering why R (as Khushi) stopped A from eating those keys...

• Agar Shaurya ko un 4 keys se hi Brahma Kavach banana tha to us Shakti Punj ke gun kyon gaa rahe the? Tim ka samajh aata hai ki use Shakti Punj chahiye tha... Shaurya ka kya??

• JP and VP BN mein aaye, sabke saath Holi kheli and kisi ne poocha bhi nahi ki wo kaun hain?

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Posted: 4 years ago

First of all, I am back to my I Love Timnasa mode. 😈 😈 😈


Woman knows how to play.


For me the biggest confusion is, creating illusion of a single person is easy but how did they manage to create an entire lok and Shaurya and fooled both BVs? Yeh kuch zyada nahi tha?

But even if they could do it, I would say bravo Tim! Dil jeet li tum mere! 😈 😈 😈


Coming to your confusion -


1. The Shaktipunj was extremely powerful. So I guess Shaurya wanted to protect that also and leave nothing to chance. So despite achieving the 4 keys, he was focused on the Shaktipunj.


2. About R stopping A, A is a fairy now and I am guessing if she had swallowed all 3 keys and the other fairies would have to save her, it would be more difficult for a normal human being than a fairy. So they didn't want to spoil the plan and attack Karuna Ji only.


3. Holi hain yaar! Kaun itna khayal rakhta hain ki koaun ghusa aur kaun nahi? 🤪

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Posted: 4 years ago

First of all, I am back to my I Love Timnasa mode. 😈 😈 😈

Well, even I am in my "I love Timnasa" mode 😈


Woman knows how to play.

That she surely does...


For me the biggest confusion is, creating illusion of a single person is easy but how did they manage to create an entire lok and Shaurya and fooled both BVs? Yeh kuch zyada nahi tha?

But even if they could do it, I would say bravo Tim! Dil jeet li tum mere! 😈 😈 😈

Well, that scene was kinda confusing... They just showed a FB of BV, V, JP and VP handing over the keys and leaving. Uske baad, the entire VL transitioned into KL and Akroor was shown. So, we are assuming that the VL was an illusion... But this raises a question that why didn't the four of them realise that it was an illusion? And if it was VL then how did Akroor come there and where did S and BP go missing?

I guess they didn't want to give explanations about it... a loophole here. They simply wanted a route for TM to get hold of the keys and the Shakti Punj.


Coming to your confusion -

1. The Shaktipunj was extremely powerful. So I guess Shaurya wanted to protect that also and leave nothing to chance. So despite achieving the 4 keys, he was focused on the Shaktipunj.

I agree that Shaurya wanted to protect that. But if the Brahma Kavach was to be created by those 4 keys, why was he hyping the Shakti Punj and connecting that to the Kavach? Agar us Shakti Punj ko protect karna tha to waisa bolna chahiye tha...


2. About R stopping A, A is a fairy now and I am guessing if she had swallowed all 3 keys and the other fairies would have to save her, it would be more difficult for a normal human being than a fairy. So they didn't want to spoil the plan and attack Karuna Ji only.

Well, BM did tell V that if they try to extract the keys from KJ's body, they'll have to kill her for that. Only TM knew how to extract the keys without killing her... and that is why she cracked the deal with BV.

But then, why would they care for the life of someone else? Unhe to bas un 3 keys se matlab tha na... To wo kisi ke bhi shareer mein ho, KJ ho, A ho ya koi aur BN waala, unhe to keys chahiye thi na? That bit looked slightly odd.

YouTube par discussion karte samay, we friends were joking ki in logon ne Vivaan ka apni Ananya Didi ke liye "special concern" dekh kar use wo keys nahi khilayi... 😆


3. Holi hain yaar! Kaun itna khayal rakhta hain ki koaun ghusa aur kaun nahi? 🤪

But these two fairies entered with D and V. Kisi ko to poochna chahiye tha na ki orphanage se kise lekar aaye hain... 😆

Agar BP, DP ya PP hoti to samajh bhi aata...

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Posted: 4 years ago

I guess they didn't want to give explanations about it... a loophole here. They simply wanted a route for TM to get hold of the keys and the Shakti Punj.

Okay!


I agree that Shaurya wanted to protect that. But if the Brahma Kavach was to be created by those 4 keys, why was he hyping the Shakti Punj and connecting that to the Kavach? Agar us Shakti Punj ko protect karna tha to waisa bolna chahiye tha...



Well, BM did tell V that if they try to extract the keys from KJ's body, they'll have to kill her for that. Only TM knew how to extract the keys without killing her... and that is why she cracked the deal with BV.

But then, why would they care for the life of someone else? Unhe to bas un 3 keys se matlab tha na... To wo kisi ke bhi shareer mein ho, KJ ho, A ho ya koi aur BN waala, unhe to keys chahiye thi na? That bit looked slightly odd.

You didn't get my point. Karuna Ji would have to die, so it would affect Vivan more. NBut may be if Ananya was in her place, being a fairy she would survive the procedure. So they didn't want to take any chance that would weaken their plan.


YouTube par discussion karte samay, we friends were joking ki in logon ne Vivaan ka apni Ananya Didi ke liye "special concern" dekh kar use wo keys nahi khilayi... 😆

😆


But these two fairies entered with D and V. Kisi ko to poochna chahiye tha na ki orphanage se kise lekar aaye hain... 😆

Agar BP, DP ya PP hoti to samajh bhi aata...

Tum bekar mein sawal bohut poochte ho.

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Posted: 4 years ago

You didn't get my point. Karuna Ji would have to die, so it would affect Vivan more. NBut may be if Ananya was in her place, being a fairy she would survive the procedure. So they didn't want to take any chance that would weaken their plan.

I completely understood your point.

I'm talking about a general thing. R and BM ka basic plan to Karuna ji ko kidnap karke unki body se keys lene ka tha... and jis device se wo keys nikalne waale the, us device se unki death nahi hoti. So, unhe sirf VL team ko unke peeche aane se rokna tha. To uske liye to wo kisi ko bhi nishana bana sakte the na... Besides, they also knew that the VL team had no idea how to remove the keys from the body. So, KJ ho ya A ho ya koi aur, VL team ke paas koi raasta nahi tha.


Tum bekar mein sawal bohut poochte ho.

I know that... 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago

I completely understood your point.

I'm talking about a general thing. R and BM ka basic plan to Karuna ji ko kidnap karke unki body se keys lene ka tha... and jis device se wo keys nikalne waale the, us device se unki death nahi hoti. So, unhe sirf VL team ko unke peeche aane se rokna tha. To uske liye to wo kisi ko bhi nishana bana sakte the na... Besides, they also knew that the VL team had no idea how to remove the keys from the body. So, KJ ho ya A ho ya koi aur, VL team ke paas koi raasta nahi tha.

Ha but Karuna ko kidnap karegi to Vivan zyada pareshan hoga to woh to BM and R ke liye positive point hua na? But ha, in that case A ko bhi le ja sakte the.


I know that... 😆

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