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chandni2111

@chandni2111

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#751

Okay, here it is. But take in count that I wrote it from Der's POV due to all the Der haters still around.

I got a bit mad yesterday. After watching that scene over and over again, I felt so sorry for Der. He doesn't just say it, he means it when he says he is trying so damn hard. Hell he is even choking in that moment.

But still ppl are out there hating on Der. Saying he was still so full of hate and they wld have expected more tenderness from his side.

I seriously don't get, why ppl don't see that Mer messed up too and she messed up big. And I'm not talking about the trial thing, it's what she did after that. Ppl just don't see it, that Der isn't mad about Mer doing what she did. He said it yesterday more than clear, that he understands what she did and why she did it. HE FREAKING UNDERSTANDS. And he loves her for that. Not for being an idiot but for being so selfless. Putting other lifes before herself. That is a freaking amazing character of hers. AND HE FREAKING LOVES that. But what he doesn't love about this, is that she doesn't think about the consequences. That she doesn't think about what effects her behavior might have for other ppl. Hell, Der said it: she didn't suffer for one minute. She might have lost her job but she went through tougher times, so she wld find something else. Oh, and she lost Zola. That's the reason why Der yelled "So did I" Her acting has consequences for other ppl, not just for her. But so far, she didn't care about that. All the time she rolls her eyes, when someone is talking about the trial. Cuz she only sees her point that it was the right thing to do for Adele, that it was a brave thing to do for Adele. But she still doesn't see what her acting means to other ppl.

That is all Der is asking for, her thinking about what she did. Thinking about the consequences and taking them in count. Thinking about that her selfless behavior might have effects to other ppl. So far, when Mer thinks she is right, she just does what she thinks is right. The same thing happened in the OR. She thought she was right and she refused to listen to Der.

That's the reason why he can't trust her, as long as she doesn't listen to other ppls opinion, take their opinions in count, he won't be able to trust her. He doesn't want her to do everything HE thinks is right. That's so not what he wants. He just wants her to listen to others, to think about the consequences and then make a decision.

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smriti

@FollowYourHeart

Stunner

Posted: 14 years ago

#752

so freaking agree with whatever u said Satan so freaking AGREE ot it he doesnt wants her to do what HE thinks is right he jsut wants her to give other people's pov a damned chance to just for one small second think before acting because they r not the same MerDer anymore they have a baby in the picture one wrong move and everything can turn harmful for that baby like it already did

but in Mer's defense i think she is beginning to get it When she took Zola away like she said to Der looking at her holding her fearing she may loose her made her realize how everything got so screwed up so out of control out of their hands...and earlier Mer wld have never returned with Zola never...but this new one came back coz she realized this wld only make things worse and if social woker has no issues with Der then he could get Zola's custody...sh realized all that and she came back in time and if not saved the day then at least prevented it from being much worse...and Mer is getting Der why he is so mad she gets it she gets that he has a right to be mad she gets she herself called for all this madness anger coldness...she gets it at least she has begun to get it...

but i m baffled too with the relentless Der hate Frankly Der has always been way more expressive abt his love and feelings for Mer than Mer has ever been for hers but she has expressed innumerable times through gestures...so i dont get it at all...dont get how ppl can be so blind

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smriti

@FollowYourHeart

Stunner

Posted: 14 years ago

#753

Satan do u think MD wld go back to bookends m scared they might...ok i love each and every MD scene that happened and all and I didnt think there ws lack of MD before too but these threeepis of s eight hve spoiled me Satan i NEED this much MD m scared what if they drop this story line after such an epic scene and go back to CA CAM crap?

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chandni2111

@chandni2111

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#754

right, Mer did change. That she returned with the baby is a big sign for that.

And I believe too, that she starts to get him. And it's okay for me that she only starts to get him. These kinda things need time. And hell, I hope we get all the steps they still have to take on screen. I wanna see everything.

I get both sides, I get Der and I get Mer. What Mer is doing right now is some kind of selfdefense too. When you believe you did something right, something that is unpopular but something that needs to be done. You start to blog yourself from everything around you too. That is normal.

And as I said yesterday. When Mer sat down on the bed next to Der, her eyes were so full of emotions, of understanding and I think a bit of confusion too. MD will get to the point where they both can trust each other again. No doubt about that. I'm just so upset, that all the ppl jump to defend there precious Mer (Ellen) but hardly some one tries to understand Der.

I'm so happy about that scene. Cuz it shows how far these two have come. How mature these two became, even when some ppl still believe it's immature. But when I saw it right, it's only the ones being around early 20 and younger. What do they know about mature life? They hardly begun having a mature life. I myself still feel like a child sometimes.

MD are working on their marriage. Neither of them is running. Both want this to work. And they both have to work on this, it's not just Der who has to give in to Mer, or just Mer who has to give in to Der. Both have to come to a point of understanding and compromises. Relationship is about compromises. And they are on a good way to get there. ☺️

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smriti

@FollowYourHeart

Stunner

Posted: 14 years ago

#755

Agree to everything u said except last line relationship is NOT about compromise life itself is NOT abt compromise Compromise means u succumbing to fate u r doing something which u dnt want to do u r settling for something less than what u think or feel u deserve NO WAYS love isnt abt that its abt UNDERSTANDING abt loving u wld bend little and lots for love but thats not compromise no one is foxing u to bend u r doing that out of choice thats just the freaking force of love u wnt bend if there was no love
love relationships can never ever be a compromise and the minute it starts being one its a sign its beginning of the end

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chandni2111

@chandni2111

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#756

Oh god, please don't make me think about that. I so don't like the promo pics full with CAM, bleh.

But so far I still have hope that Shonda will stick to what she said about focusing on the main characters again. And MD are not at the end yet. When Shonda is sane, she will keep her focus on MD. And she said it over and over again, MD have a bumpy road ahead of them. I so hope she means with that she will show us every baby step of that bumpy road.

Next week will be the all boys epi. Don't really have prob with it, when MD won't be as present, cuz I think after that scene, they need some time now. Some time to think about everything. Sort their thoughts. But I hope after the next epi we'll get our big amount of MD back.

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smriti

@FollowYourHeart

Stunner

Posted: 14 years ago

#757

Well MD r far from getting it right Yes they mad progress but that was just ONE step there r hundred more such steps needed and I want to see it all i so freaking want to see it all and I want to believe we might get to see it i really want to believe that if not they wld have made them all bright and shiny after yesterday's scene itself but they didn't...now I really get Shonda and what she mean when she said that her show really sucked when she listened to fans...the only time she did listen to fan was to patch MerDer up quickly and ever since MerDer got happy show hasn't been the same i loved every pahse of MerDer liek crazy but I get what Shonda meant All she meant was MerDer in conflict and seeing them work through it is what makes for epic Television and she was so freaking right...this is so much better than forty two mins of MerDer just staring at each other...so much better...do u get what she meant now?..and evn then we all blew up and cursed her left right center

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chandni2111

@chandni2111

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#758

above all things relationship is about understanding. But a relationship doesn't work without compromises. I don't mean giving up yourself for the other one. But it's about the small things like. She wants to go to the opera and he wants to go to a rock concert and both want the other one to come with them. Either way they decide, it will be a comprimise.

But it's not that you say, okay I will do it, but to be honest I hate to do it. What I mean about compromise is, that you choose to do something for your loved one. You do it out of love. And there comes the understanding. It has to happen out of love. He choosse to go to the opera with her loved one, cuz he knows how much it means to her. He goes there for her. Or when he says, no I'm sorry, but I hate the opera so much I can't come with you. She must understand, that he is doing it out of love. Cuz he wld ruin everything for her with his nagging the whole time.

it's the small things that are important. When the big things don't fit, nothing will help you, cuz that wld mean you have to give up yourself. That is not the compromise I mean.

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chandni2111

@chandni2111

Voyager

Posted: 14 years ago

#759

gaah, I got it. this pic means, they came closer, a lot closer than they were in the SF when Der slept in the unfinished house. But they are not there yet ☺️

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smriti

@FollowYourHeart

Stunner

Posted: 14 years ago

#760

I mean exactly what u said but lets not call it compromise its a blahed negative word lets call it love okie? like u said when u do it out of love its not a compromise any more its become part of ur choice and desire and wish too and ur take away is seeing the person u love happy so in reality u r doing it for ur own selfish reason coz her or his happiness makes u happy...hence no compromise what so ever...☺️
m a bit twisted with words...some words i jsut cant stand...fate and compromise r two of them..i dnt blv in fate i blv in destiny and for me there is a huge difference btw the two fate makes u compromise it makes u bend ur wishes and will as per circumstances while if ur able to defy fate and fight against every compelling circumstance u wld be able to meet ur destiny...

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