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Posted: 12 years ago
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Okay, here again I am back with a topic.

^I guess everything and anything excluding continuation of my works is on a hit list of mine these days. ^_^

Anyways it's about SwaRon.


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Hey all fellow SwaRon fans,



I know there's a lot of frustration among the members of the fandom. And it is justified to quite an extent. But there's something I would like to share with you all.

The very first thing you got to do is. Just don't think like a SwaRon fan or a Swayam fan or for that matter Sharon fan. Please make sure you relate things not just with the characters but also to reality.


I have heard one thing a lot many times on the forum. Which is like - 'Get the old Swayam Back.'

Tell me what does it mean- Old Swayam? Is it like asking for the same Majnu, Lover-boy? Or depiction of the same guy who loved Sharon unconditionally?

Well if it was about his unconditional love for Sharon. Then, he still loves her. His love is not to be put at question. And the recent incident I can remember as of now is when Sharon gets injured after the cycle ride. His concern was clearly been showcased. And so was his love. Though he wouldn't express it openly. But it did.


Please don't get me wrong. But Swayam cannot be a Majnu anymore. It's highly impossible for a person to behave like a majnu after the reaction he has faced from the girl whom he thought of being in a relationship with. Denial isn't something one would expect.

And after the break-up. One needs time. And I have said it again and again, it takes time to heal wounds. And here we are talking about Heartbreak. So it's obvious Swayam wouldn't be comfortable to talk about his relationship, Again.

That's the reason why Sharon is indirectly talking about their relationship. Because she can understand him at least that much.


So its but obvious, that they won't be talking about them, as a couple or anything about their relationship, frequently.

And maybe that's the reason I don't expect a patch-up this soon. Because a patch-up at this point would only prove to be a hasty step and may lead to a lot of confusions and unsorted feelings and emotions.





But I also would clear a point. That like you guys, I am not liking the way they are catering to others life, other's problem. As if they don't have a life for themselves. As if there career, their personal and professional life doesn't matter at all.

As if they are out for 'Jaggat Kalyaan.' Which indeed is wrong.

Talking about others issue is not at all bad, But dragging it all the time into the conversation is.

And a few meaningful monologues of Swayam to really make us peep and understand what exactly is going on in his head. I don't think any of the SwaRon fan would mind a monologue, which is of more importance as of now for around 10-15 minutes. I can even spare a few episodes for monologues rather than casual SwaRon.

So this is where the Creatives team got to look upon. And rest I feel is sorted on it's own.







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That's all from my side. I know there are many who would oppose this view. But I say, put forth yours and make me look at things in the way you want me to be.

Either influence me, or be influenced.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Swayam needs time, agreed. Every SwaRon fan is probably highly disappointed with Swayam's characterization. Not because they want coochie coo scenes or lover boy back, but because Swayam's characterization is incorrect.

1) Swayam never wanted a change in Sharon. And now, all he wants is Sharon to change. What surprises me is that is this the same Swayam who never wanted Sharon to change and accepted her the way she was, with flaws?

I don't know. The new CVs have failed to develop the character, or I must say failed to make Swayam mold towards Sharon again.

2) They broke up because of external repercussions is what I believe. But that does not mean that they should patch up due to external entities as well. Fine, Swayam likes Sharon's behavior towards k! Agreed. That's completely acceptable . But what is not acceptable is the fact that Swayam is behaving nicely to Sharon and talking to Sharon ONLY because she's behaving nicely with K. When Sharon was making consistent efforts GENUINELY to win Swayam back, did he notice ? Did he behave nicely to her? Did he laugh with her ? NO! He's smiling, laughing, talking and what not ONLY and ONLY because of her fake friendship with Kria! Which is certainly irritating.

Patch up toh dur ki baat hai, We fans want his character to be fixed first. Because until and unless I don't see the Swayam I fell in love with back, I won't accept a patch up, and I'm sure the same is the case with other SwaRon fans as well. 😊

My POV.. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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wonderful post 👏
your viewpoint is right swayam's love for sharon will remain always the same
but somewhere he is trying tohide which is natural he is hurt and deeply this
though he is trying to come out of it and realizing how sharon is changing but that change should not be based on how she is with kria na i dont get form where she came in between???
i mean swayam should see how she is changed with all, how hard she is trying to get him back
only third party involvement directly/indirectly is the only thing which i find where creatives should work
there story should move without even shadows of other people
they have other priorities too other thn doing samaaj seva
the change in swayam and sharon is acceptable to some extent but they should stop bothering about others and their issues for this creatives should think nd work upon
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mihi4VruShan

Swayam needs time, agreed. Every SwaRon fan is probably highly disappointed with Swayam's characterization. Not because they want coochie coo scenes or lover boy back, but because Swayam's characterization is incorrect.


1) Swayam never wanted a change in Sharon. And now, all he wants is Sharon to change. What surprises me is that is this the same Swayam who never wanted Sharon to change and accepted her the way she was, with flaws?

I don't know. The new CVs have failed to develop the character, or I must say failed to make Swayam mold towards Sharon again.

2) They broke up because of external repercussions is what I believe. But that does not mean that they should patch up due to external entities as well. Fine, Swayam likes Sharon's behavior towards k! Agreed. That's completely acceptable . But what is not acceptable is the fact that Swayam is behaving nicely to Sharon and talking to Sharon ONLY because she's behaving nicely with K. When Sharon was making consistent efforts GENUINELY to win Swayam back, did he notice ? Did he behave nicely to her? Did he laugh with her ? NO! He's smiling, laughing, talking and what not ONLY and ONLY because of her fake friendship with Kria! Which is certainly irritating.

Patch up toh dur ki baat hai, We fans want his character to be fixed first. Because until and unless I don't see the Swayam I fell in love with back, I won't accept a patch up, and I'm sure the same is the case with other SwaRon fans as well. 😊

My POV.. 😊


same here Mihi as imntioned earlier i fall for swayam for one of the reason that he never wanted sharon to change ever and now seeing her change is pleasing him dat makes confused on whats that
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanchiswaron


same here Mihi as imntioned earlier i fall for swayam for one of the reason that he never wanted sharon to change ever and now seeing her change is pleasing him dat makes confused on whats that


Sanchi, the word change is irritating me now. 😵
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mihi4VruShan


Sanchi, the word change is irritating me now. 😵

so is that
sharon loves to be with kria now so that swayam see change in her
whtas that???
this is completely unacceptable to me
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mihi4VruShan

Swayam needs time, agreed. Every SwaRon fan is probably highly disappointed with Swayam's characterization. Not because they want coochie coo scenes or lover boy back, but because Swayam's characterization is incorrect.


1) Swayam never wanted a change in Sharon. And now, all he wants is Sharon to change. What surprises me is that is this the same Swayam who never wanted Sharon to change and accepted her the way she was, with flaws?

I don't know. The new CVs have failed to develop the character, or I must say failed to make Swayam mold towards Sharon again.

2) They broke up because of external repercussions is what I believe. But that does not mean that they should patch up due to external entities as well. Fine, Swayam likes Sharon's behavior towards k! Agreed. That's completely acceptable . But what is not acceptable is the fact that Swayam is behaving nicely to Sharon and talking to Sharon ONLY because she's behaving nicely with K. When Sharon was making consistent efforts GENUINELY to win Swayam back, did he notice ? Did he behave nicely to her? Did he laugh with her ? NO! He's smiling, laughing, talking and what not ONLY and ONLY because of her fake friendship with Kria! Which is certainly irritating.

Patch up toh dur ki baat hai, We fans want his character to be fixed first. Because until and unless I don't see the Swayam I fell in love with back, I won't accept a patch up, and I'm sure the same is the case with other SwaRon fans as well. 😊

My POV.. 😊


I agree, His characterization isn't clear. Many complain about not being able to relate to the character. All of this considered.

But does it make sense for a person to be humiliated to that extent. He was been betrayed. Because Sharon couldn't assort her priorities. For her it was her Ego and reputation that mattered the most. And she took a bit long to realize and sort her priorities. Which led to the break up. But this is where Swayam wants her to change, According to me. He isn't asking for a overall change but certain things in Sharon needs to be changed. And I guess she has achieved that mark of change.

And about her being goody good to Kria. Even I have certain objections to this behavior of his. So I cannot really get into this but.Maybe it's affecting him and his behavior towards Sharon because there was a time when Sharon couldn't stand Kria. Maybe! But this is something only Creatives can clear.

But about her prior attempt. The lava hadn't cooled down when she was trying then. And thus his anger, his frustration took over his heart. And overlooked her efforts.

And about characterization. I would say I want a more self-concerned and more career oriented Swayam and Sharon. A bit more serious about their future as individuals.
Edited by -shenz- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well mihi said it all..
In the recent episodes v r getting glimpses of the swayam who loved sharon unconditinally..before that. NO his character was portrayed in a way i couldnt connect to..he had become a swayam who put forward a condtion of change in sharon for loving her..something which till date irks swaron fans

Patch up..agree it will look too rushed..instead of that improving the charaters and builing up a proper track which leads to patch up in future is required.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey shenz...long time😊

MY POV ABOUT SWAYAM

You have spoken about Swayam so here i will state my opinion and issues about his character .

Before saying anything i will make one thing clear we are not saying we want a Swayam who will keep on drooling over Sharon and follow her .Swayam the lover boy is just one aspect of Swayam.Swayam the lover boy doesn't mean he needs to admire or adore Sharon.Swayam doesn't need any words to show his love or emotion for Sharon.He is that deep and amazingly well-written character.Only his monologues kept SwaRon alive for 3 months when Sharon was not there and when Vrushi was on leave for chicken pox.

Swayam is the most beautifully designed character on Indian Television...the USP of this character is he is one of a kind,he is extra-ordinary,he is unpredictable ,honest,he loves Sharon unconditionally(even after getting hurt) and there are countless aspects to this beautiful character which can be only felt,its impossible to describe SWAYAM in words.Coming to Swayam, i saw Swayam last time after Pehla Nasha dance when in his monologue he accepted that Sharon made him feel special.After that I saw a Swayam who is not Swayam like at all,he is a completely new person.I dont know who is responsible for this,as this change occurred after new CVs entry,as a viewer i think they are responsible for this new and not-welcomed Swayam.



Dosti -

After 25th Nov , the new Swayam took birth - who is only a friend and sad thing is the friendship is one-sided and meant for only person.Swayam hiding things from gang and Rey was still ok with me as Gang hardly cared about Kriya and Rey was moving on.But hiding things from Sharon was baseless ,mainly when they were in relationship .His "honesty " was butchered with this carelessness of handling scenes.CVs got so busy in writing come back track that they used Swayam ONLY as a prop to get back Kriya and not as a lead of D3.Swayam's character was not justified about his views and actions.

Another major aspect of friendship is missing in Swayam-Kriya's friendship .Swayam was shown always caring and concerned about Kriya.They always spoke about Kriya from day 1 .Her pain,her equation with Rey,with gang.NEVER EVER they showed Kriya asking Swayam about his life,his equation with Sharon.Friendship is not only about one person,its about two people.Please correct me if i missed any episode ,i didnt see any episode when Kriya asked Swayam about his problems,his dreams or anything about Swayam.

Rey got to know about Swayam hiding truth regarding Kriya and became cold towards him.After that we didnt get any scene where Rey accepted or spoke to Swayam about this.Frankly saying in regards to ReYam history,Swayam was the one who got slapped ,still he forgave Rey.Again CVs left this thing loose ended. ReYam didnt clear anything between them.May be they are planning to show later ,we can only hope for it.

Swayam is more of a prop than a friend in D3(in last one month) .

Dance -

Swayam is the winner of National championship in Freestyle dance.He is the Captain of NDC winning team.So he is a very accomplished and successful dancer.

After new CVs entry ,when they started the dance academy track, it started with a discussion of the entire TEAM's future.They gave many suggestions and finally dance academy was decided .Swayam and Rey worked TOGETHER on the business proposal.When it became REY'S DREAM ,Rey''s academy .Rey's future from Gang's aspiration , i dont have any idea as a viewer.This showed us a Swayam, who dont have any dreams,any aspiration.Who dont think about his future ,his career.He is only concerned about one of his friend's acceptance to their group and another's friend's so called dream.He is happy being a Personal Assistant to Kriya and Rey despite of the fact that he is EQUALLY talented as them as a dancer.He has proved it in past.


Again ,Swayam's individuality as a dancer has been mocked and butchered to glorify and fit others in the scene.Swayam who was the choreographer and captain of National Dance Championship winning team ,cant decide a routine for him and Sharon.He needs Kriya's help for that.This was a lame way of forcing Kriya in SwaRon story and scenes.

Dil :


The Dil /heart part of Swayam as a character is DEAD .He dont feel anything when he sees Sharon trying to get him back.He dont feel any emotions when they dance together.There is no tension between a couple who broke up because of TRUST and understanding issues.As a viewer I cant see any tension,any emotion ,any feelings between them.They need not talk about their relationship.But as a human he must feel something.There is no POV from Swayam about Sharon's presence affects him or not.If he is comfortable dancing with her .There is absolutely no monologues.

Swayam's DIL part doesnt exist any more. His heart has stopped working i guess.As a viewer who has followed Swayam's character and Swayam-Sharon love story religiously ,who understand Swayam's character through countless scenes and moves of this character ,I AM NOT ABLE TO RELATE TO THIS CHARACTER.He is hurt as Sharon insulted his love by rejecting in front of whole gang.As a result he is heart broken and he lost TRUST on Sharon's love for him.He was indifferent in the whole phase when Sharon was trying to apologize and get him back in her life.Suddenly he started noticing Sharon's CHANGE after her freindly behavior with Kriya.How his LOVE and TRUST in the relationship with Sharon is related to a third person is out of my understanding.The sudden rudeness and next day casual approach towards Sharon is not having any base.There was no scene which justifies his sudden friendliness and casualness with Sharon.Swayam the most emotionally mature character has become emotionless.he dont feel anything.He has become heartless,to be frank.

All we are asking for is connectivity,movement and justification to the character.
Edited by _Deepika_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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MY POV ABOUT PATCH UP

From recent episodes its clear they are almost clueless about SwaRon as a couple .Same goes with the individuality of Swayam and Sharon.In case they have any remote plans of giving a patch up they need to understand the characters and their basic essence 1st.SwaRon is not a CUTE love story ,it has been a passionate and intense love story always not to forget one of the most unique love story ever shown on Indian TV .Whatever scenes we have got (2-3 scenes i guess ) after new CVs entry are not at all connected to each other hence useless in term of moving the story ahead.

So as a viewer i feel , they should justify the REAL Swayam and Sharon 1st and thn think about a patch up in case they have any plans in mind about SwaRon .We have not seen the real Swayam and Sharon even once in last one month..They were just used as fillers ...They need to have their own POV about things and above all they should get lives of their own apart from their friends...

From last one month they dont have any POV about their relationship ,about each other.They are couple who broke up due to misunderstanding and TRUST issue .There is no tension when they dance ,they have fun and chat like friends.I would have loved the scenes as a viewer only if they were JUSTIFIED.There is no scene which justifies the casual behavior .

Scenes which have Swayam-Sharon in them discussing others wont contribute their story to move forward.Its clear SwaRon are used as props for other characters which is wrong.

Also scenes are open-ended with Sharon's question and Swayam changing the topic is nothing but ways to pacify viewers.They need to have some POV and after thoughts about their dance,interactions and conversations.Swayam -Sharon are humans ,not robots that they dont feel any thing or dont have any emotions.For now Swayam-Sharon are emotionless,heartless ,ambition-less and they dont have their own minds which they had before.One month back ,Swayam was the most mature character of D3.


I strongly feel new creatives need to go through SwaRon story once before experimenting things on them.Cute casual and sweet scenes which dont move the story forward are ok but the CASUALNESS need to be justified which is lacking at present.Also treating SwaRon as leads which is a TRUTH is very important .The sudden sidelining of Swayam -Sharon's individual character need to be corrected if they have plan to keep SwaRon in the show.SwaRon is an unique and passionate love story .They are not some character who can be used as FILLER .Their characters and patch up should be properly built .The last thing we want see is an abrupt patch up.

My POV 😊

Edited by _Deepika_ - 12 years ago

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