Chandra Nandini 101-105: Dhai rang prem ke

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Originally posted by: amina1
Remember chanakiya bought chandra hes not only mentor but his master as well,it is expected nothing shocking to me at least thats how hes been treated for as long as i see it
He arranged all three marriages and hes the one told him to go to dur and that too during the war and he didn't like it at all when he let avantika go took the shahi mohar look how he went after he's daughter and chandra had no say this guy is a master
Coming to akbar prem he wanted to punish hes bigdel shahzade that s the way i saw on epic serial he was ready to marry him off to maherunnisa but shah jahas mom told akbar about conspiracy
To kill him

You are talking of serial i think siyasaat which is based on a book novel

I am talking of real history amina where salim was in love with meherunissa(as per some historians) and akbad did not want salim to marry her and sent him away on work pertex and she was married off to ali quli

In real history no historian has told salim tried to poison akbar ever (if he was so brave why would he rebellion he would just kill akbar and sit on throne a decade before only na)

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Originally posted by: sashashyam
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My dearest friends,

I see, even after just skimming the last few pages, that there has been a vigorous and very interesting discussion, with the Mystery Plotter have been displaced, after last night, by Chanakya the Cold Hearted Controller. I was very pleased to see this thread so alive.

And even more so to see that my first reaction, in my Thursday night post, that Chanakya's demanding the death penalty for Nandini was not serious, but a test, was proved right.

I will be back soon to give you my own take on all this, hopefully tomorrow, and if not then, on Monday. I am too washed out now to even think straight, or to read all your posts fully, and no, it is not the Usual Suspect, my RA . Yesterday morning, I almost fainted outside the front gates of our building. It was as well that I was able to cling to the gates and hold myself upright till I got to one of the security guards' chairs, for I am sure the poor chaps would not have known what to do with a suddenly prone body at their feet!😆

I am afraid I am well on my way to becoming an old crock, for if there is not one thing wrong with me, it is another. I still do not know what it was, but it had been building up for the last 2/3 days, and I was feeling more and more weary, though I did not pay attention to it. So naturally it decided to make sure I did pay attention!

I could barely move about all of Friday, and slept for most of the day. Even now I feel like a wet dishrag, always assuming that a dishrag is sentient and capable of feelings!😉

So just give me some more time and I will be back.

Shyamala/Aunty/Periyamma/Akka/Di

Take care aunty, check all your vitamin levels because them being low you get this tired ness and fainting etc and in summer avoid going out in hot sun

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My take on chankya behaviour is this

1) Chankya still considers chandra as the boy he brought(paying money) and wants absolute subordination to him. He will not take no for an answer

2) Chankya was just testing chandras love for nandini by saying give her death sentence. When he came to know extent of chandras love he got scared that his future plans for akhand bharat and killing nand are going awary so he sent chandra off to war. Else he can send any commander and get work done. Its not like a greek army of alexander or a padmanand is waiting for chandra to go and defeat

3) Chankya has a cranky wife do not forget she is very demanding and he knows have cranky wives dominate. He think nandini is another cranky dominating wife who will bend chandra sa per her will and make his life miserable saying do not kill my father etc to which chandra will have no option but bend and listen. Understand psychology of this chankya he has a cranky dominating demanding wife. He thinks chandra will become like him in long term to nandini. Hence he remind him of his open hair and oath and promise of chandra etc. He thinks if chandra stays with nandini long she will vashikaran him(hypnotise him) to listen only to her

4) Chankya is scared that once chandra falls head over heels for nandini he will forget chankya revege and akhand bharat plans after all chandra is just out of teenager mode 20-21 years old and that age is when boys rebel against authority and parents etc. He is scared chandra may get independent of him

5) Chandra has still not shown maturity to make decision and run empire without chankya. For everything chankya has to plan and order or say like a parent/tecaher or master. Till chandra makes decision himself its tough for chankya to know he can be independent emperor and keep bharat safe without making emotional decision(like how he left avantika)

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My take on nandini as a character

Nandini is always staying quiet and not saying truth

First sunanda told her she has dual personality mental disease and she never informed to her own mom avantika or chandra or dadi or mura why? It led to so many issues for chandra and chankya (like duplicate roopa pushing chaya because nandini stayed silent)

Second issue nandini did not trust chandra and chankya and went to nand hideout to inform nand of chandras plans. This led to roopas death and nand running off in the meley. In a way chankya is right in saying nand ran off because of nandini. Both chandra and chankya were not present when nandini went to nand. So how can we say what they both spoke?

Third issue is that when roopa was killed nandini did not try to save her. So how can chandra - chankya feel that she was not on nand side?

Fourth nand took nandini with her - if nandini was against him why would he? He took her means she is going willingly with him.

Fifth nandini jumped off nand horse when chandra was pursuing them. If she had not jumped off chandra would have caught up with nand and killed him and taken nandini with him. So any human will assume she jumped off to save nand only. Think practically not emotionally. Chankya is right in saying that.

Sixth how can nandini where nand was if she is not with him? Chankya and chandra did not tell her place or plan of theirs yet she reached nand den on her own

Not once nandini has shown loyalty to chandra or chankya or magadh. In village she supported nand with helena, she went against chandra and went to nands den and foiled their plan, she always says nand nand even her dream chandra felt she dreamed of nand death and got scared, she tried poisoning chandra during haldi ceremony and once with chandra during chayas time(though it was roopa). Again indirectly nandini silence helped roopa try to kill chaya once and chandra once.

Chandra may get blind in love but a mature chankya cannot

If chankya turns blind eye to nandini faults and behaviour he risks life of millions of akhand bharat citizens. Because if chandra dies who will face akhand bharat enemies? no one is capable. Can chankya go and fight nand and alexander army in battle or any other small king? No none. Only chandra is keeping entire akhand bharat together.

Nandini must mature and start talking seriously and maturely than a kid princess nand putri. Till then chankya will not trust her and he is right practically. You cannot blindly trust an enemy's daughter just because an emperor married her and she is chief queen.

Remember nandini is chief queen not because helena and dhurudhara re not capable. Dhurudhara is next emperor mother and a rich man daughter and helena is an excellent warrior and shrewd starategist in war. But both cannot be chief empress because helena is foreigner and dhurudhara a commoner. Else in real history nands daughter was never given any position in court. Even in serial she would not get this position if helean was not a greek and dhurudhara a commoner

Nandini will not get chankyas approval till she proves it hard way again and again and chandra cannot tell get out to chankya (like akbar said to maham)

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Posted: 8 years ago

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My take on chankya behaviour is this

1) Chankya still considers chandra as the boy he brought(paying money) and wants absolute subordination to him. He will not take no for an answer

2) Chankya was just testing chandras love for nandini by saying give her death sentence. When he came to know extent of chandras love he got scared that his future plans for akhand bharat and killing nand are going awary so he sent chandra off to war. Else he can send any commander and get work done. Its not like a greek army of alexander or a padmanand is waiting for chandra to go and defeat

I do not understand Chankya's obsession with Nand, he is homeless keeps relocating in some gufa, how harmful can he be?. Chankya needs to shift his focus on Akhand Bharat instead.

3) Chankya has a cranky wife do not forget she is very demanding and he knows have cranky wives dominate. He think nandini is another cranky dominating wife who will bend chandra sa per her will and make his life miserable saying do not kill my father etc to which chandra will have no option but bend and listen. Understand psychology of this chankya he has a cranky dominating demanding wife. He thinks chandra will become like him in long term to nandini. Hence he remind him of his open hair and oath and promise of chandra etc. He thinks if chandra stays with nandini long she will vashikaran him(hypnotise him) to listen only to her

🤣 We know mrs. Chankya wear's pants at home😉😆. The bitter truth ,a woman at home shuts him up. 😆
4) Chankya is scared that once chandra falls head over heels for nandini he will forget chankya revege and akhand bharat plans after all chandra is just out of teenager mode 20-21 years old and that age is when boys rebel against authority and parents etc. He is scared chandra may get independent of him

Chankya has a tunnel vision. Where love, empathy weakens a man. He knows Chandra will never cut the cord( umbilical). He is acting like the parent, who threatens the child, if u have boyfriend/girlfriend will not support u for college tuition.😕

Haven't got to today's episode. Though I have read a lot of frustration about it. But sure is disappointing to the one of the great of history is reduced to ashes.😡

My comments above r solely for Ekta's Chankya.

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Please Take care dear aunty. Your health is more important at this age than anything else.

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karkuzhali

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My dear Shyamala,

Pl take care of your health. That is more important. Do not worry about Chandra or Chanakya for a while ..

Saraswathi akka.

Originally posted by: sashashyam
INTERIM RESPONSE

My dearest friends,

I see, even after just skimming the last few pages, that there has been a vigorous and very interesting discussion, with the Mystery Plotter have been displaced, after last night, by Chanakya the Cold Hearted Controller. I was very pleased to see this thread so alive.

And even more so to see that my first reaction, in my Thursday night post, that Chanakya's demanding the death penalty for Nandini was not serious, but a test, was proved right.

I will be back soon to give you my own take on all this, hopefully tomorrow, and if not then, on Monday. I am too washed out now to even think straight, or to read all your posts fully, and no, it is not the Usual Suspect, my RA . Yesterday morning, I almost fainted outside the front gates of our building. It was as well that I was able to cling to the gates and hold myself upright till I got to one of the security guards' chairs, for I am sure the poor chaps would not have known what to do with a suddenly prone body at their feet!😆

I am afraid I am well on my way to becoming an old crock, for if there is not one thing wrong with me, it is another. I still do not know what it was, but it had been building up for the last 2/3 days, and I was feeling more and more weary, though I did not pay attention to it. So naturally it decided to make sure I did pay attention!

I could barely move about all of Friday, and slept for most of the day. Even now I feel like a wet dishrag, always assuming that a dishrag is sentient and capable of feelings!😉

So just give me some more time and I will be back.

Shyamala/Aunty/Periyamma/Akka/Di