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Originally posted by: maheshbedant
I will quote a passage from Greek historian Plutarch's "The Life of Alexander".
they [Alexander's Army] violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges...
For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants. And there was no boasting in these reports. For Androcottus, who reigned there not long afterwards, made a present to Seleucus of five hundred elephants, and with an army of six hundred thousand men overran and subdued all India.
Translation: An extraordinarily massive army was waiting for them on the banks of Ganga.
Alexander's men found it very hard to beat Puru - a small regional ruler of Punjab in a much more familiar environment of Western Indian.
Dhana Nanda was more than 10 times as powerful. In fact, the Nanda was probably among the top 3 most powerful humans of his time. He was undefeated in war and his environment was much more hot and humid. Dhana Nanda was far more merciless and brutal. Had Alexander and his men entered India to battle the Nanda, quite likely they would have been decimated.
Here are some proofs that Alexander could not invade India
Why should Alexander reward Porus?
According to the records of Greek history, Alexander returned Porus his kingdom though he had won the war. A simple logic here. Alexander spent 1000 talents (25,000 kilograms of gold) to Ambhi for defeating Porus. If he had spent such a large amount, why would he offer back the kingdom he won to the defeated knowing that on doing so, they would not have enough gold to return to their home? Moreover, Porus was mentioned as a very noble king. And so, why would any noble king accept that offer?
There was a mention about Porus that
"Wounded in his shoulder, standing over 2 m (6 ft 7 in) tall, but still on his feet, he was asked by Alexander how he wished to be treated. "Treat me, Alexander, the way a King treats another King" Porus said."
The above lines show that he was indeed noble and heroic.
The deadly battle
Of all the wars fought by Alexander, the war with India is considered as the best. The fact that the Greek army didn't celebrate after their win over the battle of Persia but had a huge commemoration after the battle of Hydaspes (Jhelum) reveals the fact that the army just survived the battle. There was no doubt that the Macedonians were frightened by the sight of Indian war elephants.
Diodorus wrote that
"Upon this the elephants, applying to good use their prodigious size and strength, killed some of the enemy by trampling under their feet, and crushing their armour and their bones, while upon other they inflicted a terrible death, for they first lifted them aloft with their trunks, which they and twisted round their bodies and then dashed them down with great violence to the ground. Many others they deprived in a moment of life by goring then through and through with their tusks"
Bucefalus
Alexander's beloved horse Buccafalus was killed in the battle by one of the sons of Porus while crossing the banks of Jhelum. History says that Alexander is too fond of his horse. If so, why would he spare the kingdom which was responsible for the death of his own horse?
Illogical excuse
It is said that Alexander returned to his home because his soldiers requested him to do so as they were tired of being waging themselves in constant wars. However, this seems to be highly falsified version. Macedonians had a system of rotation. Old soldiers were sent back with gold and slaves replaced constantly by the new ones. So, this excuse seems highly pointless.
Conclusion:
Alexander did not invade India because he feared of mighty empires such as Ganderites and Praesii ready with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants.
As the records were written by Alexander's men, they wrote in favor of him. Many facts were manipulated by them leaving a lot of loopholes.
Originally posted by: maheshbedant
In CAS the horse"Garud" was like Maximus.He was best friend of Ashok đ Here we expecting the same.
Originally posted by: maheshbedant
Abi,where you were đ and thanks for the info. That's the school days history đ A chapter was in English text book about it.
𤣠Now Chandra will learn from Chanakya, "how to deal with the one who is expert in biting" đ
But Chandra treated his wounded hand by putting it in his mouth đł And the expression of Nandini that time đ¤Ł
Yeh horse garud kon hain bhai 𤣠kya post-leap koi special ghoda aaya tha Ashok keliye..Pre-leap tho koi Garud ghoda special nahi tha ..
Originally posted by: abiariel
Garud is ashoka's horse friend, in cas forum all used to call them hor-shok,he is very smart and intelligent
Post-leap wala Horse frnd kya??? đ
Originally posted by: abiariel
Garud is ashoka's horse friend, in cas forum all used to call them hor-shok,he is very smart and intelligent
Originally posted by: maheshbedant
I will quote a passage from Greek historian Plutarch's "The Life of Alexander".
they [Alexander's Army] violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges...
For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants. And there was no boasting in these reports. For Androcottus, who reigned there not long afterwards, made a present to Seleucus of five hundred elephants, and with an army of six hundred thousand men overran and subdued all India.
Translation: An extraordinarily massive army was waiting for them on the banks of Ganga.
Alexander's men found it very hard to beat Puru - a small regional ruler of Punjab in a much more familiar environment of Western Indian.
Dhana Nanda was more than 10 times as powerful. In fact, the Nanda was probably among the top 3 most powerful humans of his time. He was undefeated in war and his environment was much more hot and humid. Dhana Nanda was far more merciless and brutal. Had Alexander and his men entered India to battle the Nanda, quite likely they would have been decimated.
Here are some proofs that Alexander could not invade India
Why should Alexander reward Porus?
According to the records of Greek history, Alexander returned Porus his kingdom though he had won the war. A simple logic here. Alexander spent 1000 talents (25,000 kilograms of gold) to Ambhi for defeating Porus. If he had spent such a large amount, why would he offer back the kingdom he won to the defeated knowing that on doing so, they would not have enough gold to return to their home? Moreover, Porus was mentioned as a very noble king. And so, why would any noble king accept that offer?
There was a mention about Porus that
"Wounded in his shoulder, standing over 2 m (6 ft 7 in) tall, but still on his feet, he was asked by Alexander how he wished to be treated. "Treat me, Alexander, the way a King treats another King" Porus said."
The above lines show that he was indeed noble and heroic.
The deadly battle
Of all the wars fought by Alexander, the war with India is considered as the best. The fact that the Greek army didn't celebrate after their win over the battle of Persia but had a huge commemoration after the battle of Hydaspes (Jhelum) reveals the fact that the army just survived the battle. There was no doubt that the Macedonians were frightened by the sight of Indian war elephants.
Diodorus wrote that
"Upon this the elephants, applying to good use their prodigious size and strength, killed some of the enemy by trampling under their feet, and crushing their armour and their bones, while upon other they inflicted a terrible death, for they first lifted them aloft with their trunks, which they and twisted round their bodies and then dashed them down with great violence to the ground. Many others they deprived in a moment of life by goring then through and through with their tusks"
Bucefalus
Alexander's beloved horse Buccafalus was killed in the battle by one of the sons of Porus while crossing the banks of Jhelum. History says that Alexander is too fond of his horse. If so, why would he spare the kingdom which was responsible for the death of his own horse?
Illogical excuse
It is said that Alexander returned to his home because his soldiers requested him to do so as they were tired of being waging themselves in constant wars. However, this seems to be highly falsified version. Macedonians had a system of rotation. Old soldiers were sent back with gold and slaves replaced constantly by the new ones. So, this excuse seems highly pointless.
Conclusion:
Alexander did not invade India because he feared of mighty empires such as Ganderites and Praesii ready with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants.
As the records were written by Alexander's men, they wrote in favor of him. Many facts were manipulated by them leaving a lot of loopholes.