early cgm-helen marriage is documented, not EK's idea - Page 2

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munni_rajatfan thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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bang on shailusri. honestly, history has no boundaries. who gives the guarantee tht wht we know is the truth & wht we dont know isnt a truth?? especially here we r talking about an era which dont have much historical documents. as its said history itself is a mystery.

@swriter, noone is saying its real or fiction. but its at least not EK's history. 2ndly, noone told u to support it. im not here to get anyone's support. i have just posted wht was already shown. if u want to blame then why not blame our 1st prime minister Mr. jwaharlal nehru who had actually written this?? & history?? im not even going to discuss tht. im watching "history" since 2013. so chill & u dont have to say "sorry" bcoz whether u agree with it or not im least bothered about tht. thnk u.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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thanx for the link munni di...😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Munni, firstly this is a historical fiction. So by the very genre definition we know that we cannot ask for historical accuracy and authenticity. You'd be surprised to know that most of Shakespeare's Historical Plays did not stick to the historical timeline or chronology. He used a lot of reverse sequencing and introduced many imaginary and fictitious characters and imaginary events and imaginary battles and victories as well. His basic material for the plays were chronicles written on the kings and queens.

But the ways he twisted and fitted them into his story were very remarkable and innovative. Of course nowadays, nobody would think of questioning and criticizing Shakespeare for his ahistoricity and anachronisms. But even during his own period when he had several detractors who saw red at the creative liberties he took with history, he had one vociferous supporter and patron in The Queen of England, Queen Elizabeth herself.

When one of her lords criticizes Shakespeare and his works, she rubbishes his claims and criticism and tells that at least this way people will actually remember the names of those kings and queens. She tells that all this while they have been languishing in colorless and lifeless chronicles of history unremembered by the people.

But now, people will cherish them in their hearts. She even goes one step further and tells that she does not know if the original and actual lives of these historical personages was so colorful and eventful as they are in Shakespeare's plays, and would feel greatly honored to figure and be remembered like this by posterity. She says that she as a queen does not see it fit to curtail the creative and poetic license of a great artist. This was a queen speaking about history and creative license.

Originally posted by: munni_rajatfan

bang on shailusri. honestly, history has no boundaries. who gives the guarantee tht wht we know is the truth & wht we dont know isnt a truth?? especially here we r talking about an era which dont have much historical documents. as its said history itself is a mystery.


@swriter, noone is saying its real or fiction. but its at least not EK's history. 2ndly, noone told u to support it. im not here to get anyone's support. i have just posted wht was already shown. if u want to blame then why not blame our 1st prime minister<font size="3"> Mr. jwaharlal nehru </font>who had actually written this?? & history?? im not even going to discuss tht. im watching "history" since 2013. so chill & u dont have to say "sorry" bcoz whether u agree with it or not im least bothered about tht. thnk u.😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: munni_rajatfan

bang on shailusri. honestly, history has no boundaries. who gives the guarantee tht wht we know is the truth & wht we dont know isnt a truth?? especially here we r talking about an era which dont have much historical documents. as its said history itself is a mystery.


@swriter, noone is saying its real or fiction. but its at least not EK's history. 2ndly, noone told u to support it. im not here to get anyone's support. i have just posted wht was already shown. if u want to blame then why not blame our 1st prime minister<font size="3"> Mr. jwaharlal nehru </font>who had actually written this?? & history?? im not even going to discuss tht. im watching "history" since 2013. so chill & u dont have to say "sorry" bcoz whether u agree with it or not im least bothered about tht. thnk u.😊

throw history out of the windows..
This serial is about a guy chandra who's life was spoiled by the ruler. He takes revenge and becomes the king. The princess of the state is married to him and falls in love with him. He has two other wives... A childhood friend nd a foreigner
He has a mentor who helps him
OK period.. Now tell me who has made the serial alive
Its Rajat Tokas.
Think the debate is over
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: munni_rajatfan

bang on shailusri. honestly, history has no boundaries. who gives the guarantee tht wht we know is the truth & wht we dont know isnt a truth?? especially here we r talking about an era which dont have much historical documents. as its said history itself is a mystery.


@swriter, noone is saying its real or fiction. but its at least not EK's history. 2ndly, noone told u to support it. im not here to get anyone's support. i have just posted wht was already shown. if u want to blame then why not blame our 1st prime minister<font size="3"> Mr. jwaharlal nehru </font>who had actually written this?? & history?? im not even going to discuss tht. im watching "history" since 2013. so chill & u dont have to say "sorry" bcoz whether u agree with it or not im least bothered about tht. thnk u.😊



I know no one bothered about anyone's opinion but
When you will be done something great for your society and country
But your next generation will present your life on a totally wrong way.
Even they will change everything which was most important thing for your life.
I think then it is bothered 😉
And about our first P.M. then when people will be seen this show CN after 40 or 50 years, they will also say same thing dear that please blame the great t.v. producer miss. Kapoor

😆

U know for this confusion I only wanted to say that don't
Ruin our golder history on name of NR.
I don't know what P.M. wrote in his book.
And I don't believe on it because he was one who called that subhash chandra boss was terrorist.
So can u believe him on it. He always used to see our history through the British goggles. 😉
I have no problem what you have think about it, because it is also hardly matter to me.

😊

But I bother about my history and our great warriors.
Because we use to known in whole world for our golden history and our great king and warriors. 😊

And yaaa again sorry buddy if u hurt because of my words
Because mera sorry tumhare liye matter karta hu ya nahi
But kisi ko jaanboojh kar hurt nahi karana chahiye ye baat mere liye
Bahut matter karati hain 😳
So again sorry if u hurt
And now this topic have closed for me.
Thanks to reply me.
Bye 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@swriter, i dont have time to think about u btw. u dont even exist for me. & neither im stopping u to bother nor im here to think about ur opinions. ur bothered its good. & hurt?? buddy ur noone tht i will get hurt. i had seen how much history others had used so im not here to blame a particular person. if u can do healthy discussions fine but dont get personal. whether i believe sumone or not thts none of ur business. & last but not the least im from a educated family so i think i know history. & its funny tht all of sudden sum people got worried about history whereas distortions r going on for so many yrs. but those distortions & NR were ok bcoz of obvious reasons. tht time it was of course ok for nation & future generation & of course those sources were "perfect". 😆 anyways, ur always welcome to share ur views bcoz its a open forum but if comments r coming like a taunt then i can also ans tht way. thnk u the topic ends for me as well. 😊
Edited by munni_rajatfan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This show is Historical fiction!!

And History of Mauryans will have different versions.
There will be A to z versions!
Each version might contradict with other version.
each historian will contradict with other historian

And Ek can chose any versions out of it, or none. At least here some source is there to back it. And its not completely Ek's idea!! yeh accha huva..
waise bhi baki historical shows bhi aise hi fictions add kar chuke hain

For eg CAS show itself as added so much fiction...That it becomes too much to digest

IN cas show, also they had shown Helena as first queen. That was fine, but the way they showed chanakya murder by Helena and 12 year old boy too participating was disgusting!!!...
Anyway what I meant, was all other shows were also showing fiction in the name of history..
so history par rona bekar hoga
simply Enjoy the show that's it... 😉
Even JA had done the same by showing Laboni track nd all. there were other tracks too like kyber track nd all..But people tho enjoyed it...
And even Skr was the same ..They showed different version which was no were close to real version!! They had even shown dinosaurs and laxman doing suicide. I mean can you believe that Laxman doing suicide thing!!!Thts why I am telling enjoy !!don't break your head here..
And if you still want to watch pure history .Epic channel hain na..Hope that doesn't disappoint the History Lovers.. 🤣
Edited by Aahana. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Can I post a sarcastic comment as well? I would love to do it. 😆
Okay...on a serious note...we are talking about something that occured in or around 321 BC . The time period of which we dont have sufficient data or should I say much of authentic information. Alot has been destroyed already. Eveb for the rulers of the time of 12th century and around...therr isn't much of info. It all comes down to which version is widely accepted.

See...it-s simple. This is not some 500 years old tale...this is way ahead of it.

It's just that there is a version which has been widely accepted...and maybe the production house is not following that version as per the marriage tracks are shown but history is not being warped to such an extent.

If a story which was just some hundred years old can be distorted..this is nothing. Plus...there isn't much of damage done, not until now atleast (please correct me if I am wrong).
But still...


And talking about nationalism and all...can The Member please throw some light on what he/she actually meant by that. I couldn't undersrand it properly.😕

P.s. By repeatedly saying the word "sorry" you actually mean offence to the post and the person who made the post. Please it's a valuable word..refrain from using it without the need.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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guys guys chill. this post wasnt made to create fights. its all about healthy discussions. everyone is entitled to express their opinions. im not at all against disagreements my only point is taunting & sarcasm can be avoided. i also got carried away srry for tht. but lets do healthy discussions rather than taunting. thnk u.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ho gya healthy diacuasins yaah aise to 😆

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