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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: babur1527

Can we not do this again.


I had an agreement with the KVK fans. We will stay on our threads and they will stay on theirs.

Every now and then this topic is rehashed.

None of the forum members have a problem with Rani Kaurwaki. It's the parody KVK in CAS. Saumya is a decent actress but unfortunately she is hobbled by the pathetic script.

I understand some people like KVK anyway and the romance between her and Ashok. I will respect their opinions and their rights and let them have their fun.

In return all I ask is let us be in our EDT.

I request you all to not turn this forum into a ghost town once again. It has seen activity after such a long while.

Please let everyone be active in their respective spheres.

And hopefully the CVs listen to us and give every actor a respectable script and plot they deserve to play.

Thank you. That will be all.

Sorry i did know about the agreement i just saw many pity threads opened by kvk fans seeking answer about y people criticize her nd how they shudnt so decided to make thread but no worries now i will remain in my own at and ignore such threads
Sorry again 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon

Oh yes Subha! There's that. Devi turning into AshWaki shipper 😵 Please retain some dignity to her character. She was Asoka's first wife not some charity case whom he married out of pity or obligation which I am sure will be the case in the show. Asoka loved all his wives equally and maybe KVK has more prominence bcoz Asoka loved a commoner who was a fierce warrior. But did that mean he loved Devi or Asandamitra any less?


And now they have turned her a weak cry baby from a matured and sensible woman.She too is so annoying nowadays.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: nikii11

And Historically too Devi ND Asandhimitra were more important.KVK was mentioned in his edicts not cause of Ashok's wish its cause of Kaurvaki's wish..she wanted her developmental works to be recorded.So she wished ashok to mention her.And thts why he mentioned her developmental works..And about devi , OFcourse he married her in childhood at the age of 18.and Ashok built sanchi stupa for her she has not wished for it .Ashok himself as built it.Asandhimitrs he built ashokan stupa in her birthplace she has not wished he himself as built. and she stayed in patliputra for 30 yrs as chief queen.Devi stayed separate as per her wish. Where is kvk in all this..?? 😕 There are accounts too that kvk stayed separately.


Oh..and how do you know that kwk wished that? Also,why would that stop him from writing about his other Queens? Kwk may have been the only one to demand that her name be written but if he had other and more important Queens, why would he not record their names too?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: capricornrcks

I'll put my two cents worth.Nobody can deny that Kaurwaki had a special place in Ashok's life.She's as important as Devi or Asandhimitra. However the CVs have committed several mistakes with the character.

1. Her character was given more screen time than was necessary.Rather than building up a proper character arc and inserting her at appropriate times she was shoved down the viewer's throats continuously.Every day.It's like someone is chanting all the time in your ear "You have to like Kaurwaki.She's beautiful, she's talented she's the other half of Ashok's soul... You WILL LOVE Kaurwaki."
I don't know about the other viewers, but I don't appreciate being coerced/forced.If tomorrow Devi is given too much screen time and time is wasted on her obsessive love, I'll come down hard on her too.

2.It would have been fine and dandy if Kaurwaki Jr wasn't so irritating,judgmental and contradictory.If Ashok says let's go west she immediately pipes in that they should go east.When they came down to Kaurwaki Sr. they did way with her contradictory nature.Well and good.But they made it as if love for Ashok is her sole reason for being on earth.That's just one of her aspects.Not proper attention was given to building up other aspects of her character.

3.Timing is the key.Her character was introduced at the worst possible time.The fact that Ashok Sr. was mooning after her wasting time when he was supposed to get back on Bindusar's good books and get back in the waiting list of successors proved irritating.There was no need to introduce Kaurwaki's character this early in the show.Sure they could have shown glimpses of her Kaling keeping track of Ashok but the punarmilan could have waited for later.

4.This show was billed as Chakravartin Ashok Samrat.Not as someone else in the forum said about Saccha premi Ashok.By all means devote some time to his romance with Kaurwaki.But tastefully done and in small doses.And for God's sake please don't copy from Bollywood movies.We've all watched Devdas and Bajirao Mastani. We don't need a remake in less than 25 years.

5.All the positive side characters in CAS are singing paens to Kaurwaki.Well Nayak hasn't and look what happened to him😉 Be careful Acharya Radhagupt.Jokes aside it feels irritating when Kaurwaki gets credit for things she has not done.Sure she saved Ashok's life from Helena's henchman and advised Ashok to take Lassandra's help.But the way Dharma and Devi talks, it feels as if Akhanda Bharat won't be built up without Kaurwaki there to put the foundation stone.That's taking credit away from Ashok.

5.Casting. Everything would have been forgiven if the casting was solid.Both Kaurwaki Jr and Sr are totally miscast.The senior one makes weird grimaces,widens her great saucer like eyes and delivers dialogues in a deadpan voice.That's all she has in her repertoire.No matter.Siamek is also wooden faced and we tolerate him just as well.But limit her screen time and give her something sensible to do.Like the way they utilized her for the past two days.


BRAVO 👏 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Poonam0307

@Astha BRAVO 👏 well said

Thanks! I just saw there was a similar thread on why kaurwaki ishated so much a few months back. So sorry to have started mine with the same topic. But there is actually too much criticism for her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36
@niki. Aapne bataya nahi aapka source kya hai? You have done your research, haven't you? :P
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: astha36

@niki. Aapne bataya nahi aapka source kya hai? You have done your research, haven't you? :P


Jaake wiki check kijiye shayed aapko patha chale. 🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: nikii11


Yeh lijiye link 🥱
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiE-NO_45_OAhXDLo8KHTjmBAAQFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKaruvaki&usg=AFQjCNFN7AplzavF66INUoYeY6D8CijQUA&sig2=DKNYYzJEV1n0wLwQKsxUnQ



I'm sure you know that anybody can edit Wikipedia. Wiki as a source should never be quoted. Obviously it's somebody's opinion written there and das has been misquoted.

Need some more researching on your part.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: aditi37

Honestly, I prefer to ignore whenever such post occur even when you posted your post which was totally correct in my view , I preferred to ignore but after reading your comment I have to say infact I would say forced but have to say THANKS😊and true she must be some important as she was the only one who mentioned in edicts as she must be some important as makers wouldn't take such risk to show the same in Indian television as she must be some important otherwise they would have shown devi in her place.
History sabotaged or not if they can tolerate other weird stuff ,why not this!

Thanks!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: astha36

@niki. I asked you how you know for sure that kwk wished her name to be written. No answer about that.

@adhya. Good to know your thoughts. I just wanted to give an alternate line of thought as you asked in your post. So you don't agree with it. That's okay. The makers are anyway making the decisions.

I would like to give one opinion here. If any person is to make an autobiography and writes about only one of his partners, it will be logical that they mattered the most. I think tributes are given to important people definitely and the stupas prove the other queens' importance but the fact that he recorded only one name...it seems logical that either she was the most important or the most loved. Otherwise he only had to mention the others. Which he didn't. There is nothing more to say about this. Still people have different perspectives but to dismiss somebody's perspective is a bit harsh especially when it has logic behind it.


Coz historians themselves have mentioned that it was as per her wish..Dont you research??
According to MN das historian.
Here his statement? below one in quotes.
"Karuvaki was immortalized in the Queen Edict wherein her religious and charitable donations were recorded as per her wishes"
And anyway I have nothing against Historical queen KVK..I only dislike CAS kvk mainly coz of her Acting.
Edited by nikii11 - 9 years ago

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