Chanakya-the man and the impostor

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It is totally unfair to compare Chanakya to Niccolo di Bernardo dei Machiavelli who was a SLIMY SOB WHO LACKED CHARACTER.

Here is a WISDOM quote made by Chanakya 2400 years ago " Though men be endowed with beauty and youth and born in noble families, yet without education they are like the PALASA flower which is devoid of sweet fragrance"
Chanakaya is supposed to have died before the Grandson of Chandra Gupta Maurya became emperor .
Chandra Gupta Maurya converted from Hinduism to Jainism as per the white invader -as BAAAD Hindusim made him self loathing .

Chandra Gupa's grandson Ashoka also became self loathing and converted from Hinduism to Buddhism.
Nobody in India or even Buddhist Sri Lanka ever heard of the Kalinga war ( one lakh soldiers slaughtered ) which caused an unknown King Ashoka to convert to Buddhism.

However there is a unweathered and FAKE looking rock edict unearthed by the white invader which mentions that cruel Hindu King Ashoka converted to Buddhism because of the remorse he felt on account of Kalinga war -and due to pasts sins caused by his Hindu religion.

So what all evil deeds did BAAAD BAAAD Hindusim cause King Ashoka to do,and which causes him so much of remorse ,that he wanted to tun over a new leaf and convert to GOODIE GOOD Buddhism ?
Ashoka's killed 99 of his brothers, sparing only one, named Vitashoka.

The white invader has got his Buddhist stooges to write that Ashoka was so cruel that he had a torture chamber in his palace - and they even know the name of his chief torturer - a guy by the name of Girika

The truth is Ashoka did NOT exist. Leave alone hundred brothers and his elaborate torture chamber .
Hey , come can you say King Ashoka did NOT exist when the white invader has written , along with his Buddhist stooges that during his cremation, his body burned for seven days and nights, pray ?

But hey, the 13th FAKE looking rock edict tells us that Ashoka converted to Buddhism because of the remorse he felt on account of Kalinga war. Never mind that not a single Buddhist or Hindu text ever spoke of the Kalinga war. But the newly written Buddhist books talk about Ashoka being converted by a Buddhist monk Samudra / Nyagrodha.

Now here is another paradox-- while newly written scriptures talk about 84,000 Buddhist monasteries established by Ashok a, the rock edicts are strangely silent on this"NOT a single rock dict mentions any Buddhism related activity by Ashoka ( actually King Piyadasi wrongly called Ashoka to make two plus two equals five ). Not a single Ashoka rock edicts mentions even a single sentence about the teachings of Buddha.

Buddha existed in 1900 BC , NOT 1400 later as per the white historian.

King Ashoka has NOTHING to do with the rock edicts and the Kalinga war.

Taxila university has been kicked forward in time from3000 BC to 1000 BC by the white invader. The white invader writes that Taxila was abandoned in 5th century BC. If that is the case how did Chanakya teach there , when Alexander the great set our from Greece? The Taxila university ruins can be seen even today in Pakistan, 20 miles from Rawalpindi.

The western accounts are full of white lies.

Wikipedia writes that Chanakya poisoned King Porus to death ( Google KING PORUS WIKIPEDIA ) .

This is a LIE.

Chanakya has been made out to be an evil serpent with no scruples , devoid of all morals and character. The fact is that he was a very honourable man and a true Karma Yogi. He was a Kerala Namboodiri, who was proficient in Vedas, Surgery, Astronomy, Economics and political science"a respected professor at Taxila University.

He was very familiar with the teachings of Shukracharya ( Ahura Mazda , God of the Parsis )

The white historian has lied that when Alexander came to India , the Maurya empire with 9000 war elephants did NOT exist.

The truth is that as soon as Alexander crossed the Dardenelles straits with his army, Chanaka resigned from his teacher job at Taxila university and went to the Nanda empire capital at Pataliputra . Alexander has with him 48,100 foot soldiers, 6,100 cavalry and a fleet of 120 ships with crew numbering 38,000 --and it was NOT a war exercise .

He advised the Nanda King about the looming foreign invasion by a greek King Alexander and advised him meet the Greek army , as other kingdoms were too small and not militarily strong as the mighty Nanda empire.

So, 2300 years ago, Chanakya entered the palace of the Nandas. He saw ten gold plates and thrones. He was told that nine were for the eight Nanda princes (who were brothers) and their father Sarvarthasiddhi.

The tenth was for the most learned person in Vedas.

This throne was always reserved for Subandhu, who was way below Chanakya in Vedic knowledge . Chanakya strode up and sat down on the tenth throne.

Chanakya knew that the ideologies of the then existing small kingdoms in the Indian Subcontinent (janapadas) which was limited to safeguarding their own boundaries. They did NOT have the vision or perspective to unite and confront a larger battle hardened foreign invader army.

Nanda was the only mighty empire at that time. Chanakya went to Pataliputra to suggest that the Magadha king Dhana Nanda must position his army North West of Taxila kingdom at the virtual gates of Hindustan .

To be honest such a grandiouse proposition would be bizarre to any king ..and it was natural that they would smell a rat and get upset. The perceptive prime minister of King Dhana Nanda , Amatya Rakshasa could have been convinced, but a fortuitous incident upset the applecart ..probably for the better .

Chanakya was a famous and proud man those days .

Now"


The nine princes and Subandhu entered the place and noticed Chanakya sitting on the throne, and all got terribly upset.

The youngest two brothers, Sukalpa and Dhanananda, asked him rudely to get up and leave. Chanakya replied, 'I am the most qualified for the tenth throne. It is my right to sit on it.

If Subandhu defeats me in a literary vedic public debate, I will readily step down.'

Everybody knew that Subandhu was NO match for Chankya.

The princes become more angry but Chanakya remained calm.


Sukalpa insulted him by calling him a black like a monkey but Chanakya continued to be calm and said that the duty of the king is obey the Sanatana dharma. Since the tenth throne is to be given to the most learned man, it is dharmic that a fair contest be held.

Further, Chanakya noted that he may be dark skinned like a monkey but Vedic scholars are noted for what is inside them. The princes got more angry made fun of his hair tuft ( Mun-Kudumi ) and asked the palace guards to throw him out..

While Chanakya was being physically evicted one guard pulled him by his hair tuft .

Immediately Chanakya untied his own Kudumi -and this made everybody terribly nervous.

He took the famous oath, " I will not tie my tuft of hair until I uproot the whole Nanda dynasty and establish dharma in Magadha. Rulers like you have spoiled Bharat. This tuft of hair is now a serpent which will come back to bite you."


Hearing this, Sukalpa got furious and ordered him to be put to death. However, a minister Subuddisarman intervened and requested the king to let go Chanakya or it will be adharmic .

All were too stunned to react and Chanakya walked out unmolested.

Chanakya true to his word would later dethrone the mighty Nandas, and put the illegitimate son of Prince Sarvarthasiddhi of the Nanda empire Chandra Gupta on the newly created Mauryan empire throne.

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Is this post for real 😆
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose



Is this post for real 😆


Haha. No, it's fake. That's why today we have more information about Chandragupta Maurya who ruled earlier than Ashoka.

Evident from Megasthenes' accounts that Buddhism and Jainism were dead in India. But beloved Piyadasi aka Ashoka converted from Bad Bad Hinduism to goodie good Buddhism. 😆
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Originally posted by: Druids


Haha. No, it's fake. That's why today we have more information about Chandragupta Maurya who ruled earlier than Ashoka.

Evident from Megasthenes' accounts that Buddhism and Jainism were dead in India. But beloved Piyadasi aka Ashoka converted from Bad Bad Hinduism to goodie good Buddhism. 😆


Every relegion 's purpose is to guide people... Relegion should not be blamed if people who say belonging to it do bad... Relegion lays out what is good and bad and it is for the people to decide what to do using their brain..
No relegion supports harming others...
If you think King Ashoka didnt exist so its ok.. thats ur opinion and I respect it.. bt please keep away the relegious comparisons...
I dont want to go off topic more...
So Thank you
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Originally posted by: musicndance2


Every relegion 's purpose is to guide people... Relegion should not be blamed if people who say belonging to it do bad... Relegion lays out what is good and bad and it is for the people to decide what to do using their brain..
No relegion supports harming others...
If you think King Ashoka didnt exist so its ok.. thats ur opinion and I respect it.. bt please keep away the relegious comparisons...
I dont want to go off topic more...
So Thank you


Sorry. I did not mean it that way. But Piyadasi was created for a reason.

Jainism btw is the second oldest religion on this planet after Sanatan Dharma. If you want to know more about either, you can google "Sanatana Dharma Hinduism Exhumed."

And also google "Kalidasa did not exist, Jainism is second oldest religion."
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Originally posted by: Druids


Sorry. I did not mean it that way. But Piyadasi was created for a reason.

Jainism btw is the second oldest religion on this planet after Sanatan Dharma. If you want to know more about either, you can google "Sanatana Dharma Hinduism Exhumed."

And also google "Kalidasa did not exist, Jainism is second oldest religion."


Its ok...
Bt even though the show 's base is wrong still if ur saying is true it will remain true... so just chill😊
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I dare you to have a look at those posts and blow your mind. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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"But the newly written Buddhist books talk about Ashoka being converted by a Buddhist monk Samudra / Nyagrodha."
Er, the Ashokavadana is a 2nd century B. C. E. text. "Newly written"?

And while it's true that the Buddhist scriptures don't mention the Kalinga war, the man's own edicts do. And while the scriptures mention Buddhism-proselytising activities, the edicts don't. You need to decide which one to choose to believe. 😆


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Btw I believe that this is your source for this fantastic info:
www.stephen-knapp.com/reestablishing_the_date_of_buddha.htm

Don't trust this one too much. It mentions Bimbisara as a Sisunaga dynasty king, when he belonged to the Haryanka dynasty. Plus, the Aryans were still getting over their pastoralism in the 1880 BCE. Puranas' time frame has always been messed up, so no need to go there.

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