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Janaki

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Posted: 11 years ago

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I don't know if Buddha is an avatar. I feel that his principles go against the principles taught by Shri Ram and Shri Krishna. Both of them never preached in support of war, but they always did preach that injustice must be vanquished. If it could not be achieved peacefully, then it was the dharma of human beings to do battle against evil to restore justice in the war. Buddha would never have waged war against Ravan or the Kauravas.

In my family, we believe the 9th avatar of Lord Vishnu was Lord Venkateshwara (Balaji). He is a popular incarnation of Vishnu in South India, and many South Indians believe him to be the 9th incarnation after Lord Krishna.

However, I believe that in Vaishnavism, Lord Balaram was the 8th avatar and Lord Krishna was the 9th avatar, so it really depends on which sect of Hinduism one follows. It is not clear who the 9th avatar was, for some reason.

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_gReenheaRt_

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath
I don't know if Buddha is an avatar. I feel that his principles go against the principles taught by Shri Ram and Shri Krishna.

Can you please quote some examples?😊

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Janaki

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience

Can you please quote some examples?😊

I don't have any particular example. In general, didn't Buddha preach non-violence and renounce his family because he was dissatisfied with the world and wanted to become a saint?

I just feel that if you compare him to Vishnu's previous incarnations, who were peaceful when required but also showed their fierce side when necessary, Buddha is very different. Even Kalki is said to be a fierce incarnation (though he did not come yet), so why would Buddha preach total non-violence in the Kali Yuga, when evil is more rampant than it was in Treta or Dwapar Yuga?

I don't know, maybe I am mistaken, and Buddha really was an incarnation, but these are just my thought.

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sherlock

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Posted: 11 years ago

#14

Thank God I finally remembered that I'd promised ages ago to post further on this thread. 😆😆

About Buddha as an Ansha-Avatar of Lord Vishnu, as mentioned in the Puranas, I remember his father being called "Ajin" in Puranas, and not Shuddhodhan.

Secondly, the story given in Puranas is way different from that of Prince Siddharth. It goes something like this.

Asuras, as usual, were lording over all creation, and devtas were comprehensively defeated by them. However, this time, the King of Asuras asked Indra the ways and means to keep the reign of asuras going forever. Indra decided that any person who is asking his advice should be given absolutely correct advice only, even if that means losing out to asuras forever and ever.

So Indra told the king of Asuras that "Dharma is the final sustainer of all. If you want that this time, asuras should be truly undefeatable, that the reign of Taamsic forces on the creation should sustain forever, take the refuge of same Dharma you wish to destroy forever, because if you'll never leave Dharma, then Dharma too will never leave you."

Asuras acted upon Indra's advice, leading to a situation where Asuras fashioned their society on the principles of dharma and the strength that this provided them, they were use that strength to destroy all their foes and keep lording over all creation.

So Lord Vishnu manifested as Buddha, and went to asuras and started sermonizing them that their dharmic lifestyle is nothing but an unending emanation of superstitions, and that no purpose is served by doing Yagya or worshipping God, they should revert back to their lifestyle of eat, drink and be merry. Asuras, adequately inspired by Buddha's sermons, left the path of Dharma, & over a period of time, their strength waned , and Devtas defeated them again.

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sherlock

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Posted: 11 years ago

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@Proud-India: Do listen very carefully to what Shri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya is saying on Sanatan Dharma and Buddhism in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkTc0z0SM_I

https://www.youtube.com/user/DharmaNation/videos

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sherlock

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Posted: 11 years ago

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@ Janaki Raghunath: Oh JR, I always feel delighted whenever we agree, which is almost always. 😆

So seeing that we both agree here too that Gautam Buddha is no avatar of Lord Vishnu, I am very very happy.

Love to be on the same page with you, JR. 😉

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sherlock

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience
Why don't we recognize ourself as an Avatar?

Because we just know the truth that we are god's manifestations but never experienced this truth!

Why we are unable to experience it?Because of our ignorance.Every Avatar is basically the formless god.We ordinary beings infact are also of the same formless god.But, it is overlaid by the effect of ignorance,which hides the truth that we are the God!

When the entire purview of any discussion falls within Vedic Gyan Marg, these are good enough conclusions to draw.

Otherwise, from what I've understood, this is a sure shot way of "travelling one's entire life but reaching nowhere in the end."

As it is, the Gyan Marg is a disaster, if you ask me, for cul-de-sacs galore down that road.

Of course, you don't have to pay any attention to what I've understood, still, if possible, do give this a thought. 😊

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Cherry

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: sherlock

As it is, the Gyan Marg is a disaster, if you ask me, for cul-de-sacs galore down that road.

We have classifications,in accordance with the type or the tendency but in the end all the paths converge and become one.All the margs are interdependent and inseparable.It is not a matter of separate units.

Edited by Cool-n-Fresh - 11 years ago

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sherlock

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Posted: 11 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh
We have classifications,in accordance with the type or the tendency but in the end all the paths converge and become one.All the margs are interdependent and inseparable.It is not a matter of separate units.

Really?!?! 😲😲

That's news for me. 😃

And it makes me wonder. 😕😕

If the end result of Karm & Gyan are material = perishable = temporary, how can these two paths be equated with the third one which gives a permanent result???

However, even though they are useless as standalones, when practiced as Karm-Yog and Gyan-Yog, their end result becomes divine. Clearly, the thing added to them in this case makes all the difference. What is that tattva? And since that Tattva was absent when Karm & Gyan were considered as standalones, how can we reach the conclusion that the three paths converge in the end?

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Cherry

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: sherlock

Really?!?! 😲😲

That's news for me. 😃

And it makes me wonder. 😕😕

If the end result of Karm & Gyan are material = perishable = temporary, how can these two paths be equated with the third one which gives a permanent result???

However, even though they are useless as standalones, when practiced as Karm-Yog and Gyan-Yog, their end result becomes divine. Clearly, the thing added to them in this case makes all the difference. What is that tattva? And since that Tattva was absent when Karm & Gyan were considered as standalones, how can we reach the conclusion that the three paths converge in the end?

I've just repeated words of those, who talk in Yoga,walk in Yoga,sit in Yoga,who when eat or sleep is Yoga...their every activity is Yogic and they are always immersed in Yoga.

There's is 'Practical Application and Experience'.It is impossible or rather difficult to answer questions based on Theoretical Explainations.

A Theory might be an approximate conclusion but it is not exactly 'The Real'.