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Posted: 6 years ago
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A male lead playing a character who falls for a character played by a girl who's two or three decades younger and of course dreams of nothing else but boinking some saggy, withered uncle - Bollywood's main fantasy for the past 5 decades. Oh, how fascinating: such special circumstances and finally a story that feels soooo fresh, and what a wide gamut of emotions: from 💤 to 🤮

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: dedh

A male lead playing a character who falls for a character played by a girl who's two or three decades younger and of course dreams of nothing else but boinking some saggy, withered uncle - Bollywood's main fantasy for the past 5 decades. Oh, how fascinating: such special circumstances and finally a story that feels soooo fresh, and what a wide gamut of emotions: from 💤 to 🤮

it's the directors vision obviously. but what confuses me is that isnt SLB gay? so it probably is not made in the intention for these types of "fantasies"

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: DavidBowieGirl

Age gaps between the actor and actresses has been around since the start of the film industries and is still going on. So I'm not shocked or appalled like some people may be about it. Despite her looks Alia is an adult and this isn't the first time as age gaps are always happening in Indian films, they are just not typically addressed as this film plans to do apparently, so I guess I don't get some people reaction? Why are people acting like this is the first time or even uncommon? If age gaps makes one uncomfortable I would not recommend Indian cinema for that person, it's like in almost ever other movie.

I can only guess it because Alia has always looked so much younger then her age. If it was another actress her age I don't think people would have such a reaction.

I am looking forward to this movie!


age is just a number, but when you have an actress who looks like a teenager, it is disgusting actually. it actually creates an acceptable mindset. and subjects young teens to fall prey to older men as love interests in real society. movies have tremendous influence on the audience.The fact that there is a 30 year age gap between them is not ok to present on screen any more imo..because you are crossing the line there imo.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349


age is just a number, but when you have an actress who looks like a teenager, it is disgusting actually. it actually creates an acceptable mindset. and subjects young teens to fall prey to older men as love interests in real society. movies have tremendous influence on the audience.The fact that there is a 30 year age gap between them is not ok to present on screen any more imo..because you are crossing the line there imo.


30 year age difference crosses what line ??

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349


age is just a number, but when you have an actress who looks like a teenager, it is disgusting actually. it actually creates an acceptable mindset. and subjects young teens to fall prey to older men as love interests in real society. movies have tremendous influence on the audience.The fact that there is a 30 year age gap between them is not ok to present on screen any more imo..because you are crossing the line there imo.

Never said age is just a number and very disgusted with that phrase, I firmly believe it's only acceptable if the age gap is between two consenting adults obviously, no matter how disgusting some people may view it, if the gap is between two consenting adults I would say whatever go ahead. Alia is a 26 years old woman, no matter how young she looks, that is a fact. How am I crossing the line if I am saying I am fine with this age gap because it's between two consenting adults? You have your opinion I have mine but I think in fact you are crossing the line by saying that.

As for what else you have said, I admit I have never heard of that happening due to the the movies main pairing having an age gap, so that is news to me if what you saying is true. If that is indeed the case then I agree such films then should not be made.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: DavidBowieGirl

Never said age is just a number and very disgusted with that phrase, I firmly believe it's only acceptable if the age gap is between two consenting adults obviously, no matter how disgusting some people may view it, if the gap is between two consenting adults I would say whatever go ahead. Alia is a 26 years old woman, no matter how young she looks, that is a fact. How am I crossing the line if I am saying I am fine with this age gap because it's between two consenting adults? You have your opinion I have mine but I think in fact you are crossing the line by saying that.

Age is just a number in general. I actually dont understand how you are disgusted with that phrase, when in fact it is just a number generally speaking. and where am I crossing the line? (and obviosuly i am speaking about two consenting adults! no one is talking about children here, come on!) It is my opinion that the age gap and how they appear visually as a couple is crossing the line in terms of what is acceptable. thats my opinion and has no offense to you.

we are not talking about real intimate relationships here btw, we are talking about movies and what is portrayed on screen. you are going in a whole different direction here! She is playing a character, and that can be justified by the story so I will not argue against that.

However..the fact is that visually, she does look very young (I am not talking about her biological age). and movies have influence on an audience.

I am talking about this influence. if something on screen is visually portrayed as acceptable on screen where the love interest does look quite underage, it poses a problem to young girls and teens.

and I have a problem with this, you may not-thats fine. but i am in no way crossing a line here.

Edited by sania349 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: DragonBoy49


30 year age difference crosses what line ??


go date your daughter's friends some day. I know this may be a serious case of feminism and what not. But if it is portrayed as normal on screen, you are telling the male audience that this is normal as well.

Now if you dont care about the impact this has on women, then there is no argument here to make.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349

Age is just a number in general. I actually dont understand how you are disgusted with that phrase, when in fact it is just a number generally speaking. and where am I crossing the line? It is my opinion that the age gap and how they appear visually as a couple is crossing the line in terms of what is acceptable. thats my opinion and has no offense to you.

we are not talking about real intimate relationships here btw, we are talking about movies and what is portrayed on screen. you are going in a whole different direction here! She is playing a character, and that can be justified by the story so I will not argue against that.

However..the fact is that visually, she does look very young (I am not talking about her biological age). and movies have influence on an audience.

I am talking about this influence. if something on screen is visually portrayed as acceptable on screen where the love interest does look quite underage, it poses a problem to young girls and teens.

and I have a problem with this, you may not-thats fine. but i am in no way crossing a line here.

I have never been fine with that phrase due to the fact that age is not just a number, only when we reach adult age are such relationships acceptable, there should be no such unclearness on that. Real intimate relationships off or onscreen it doesn't matter, I am only fine if it's between two consenting adults who are the couple, no matter how gross some see it. If Alia was portraying someone younger then an adult or got this role when she she was younger then an adult, then I would for sure have a problem with this film and raise strong objection. You and others find this pairing disgusting that is fine, I won't force you to think otherwise! Alia can't help that she looks the way she does, if this role is something she does indeed want, which seems to be the case as it seems like this is her dream role then she should go for it is what I thought.

Again I have never heard of such an effect from these films. I know age gap is a big thing not just in India but even in Hollywood as well. This reminds me of the debate of if violence in video games is the reason for acts of violence in real life. If that is really happening then again, this is first time I am hearing about that and thank you for bringing that up, and now I have a problem with this and think these types of films should stop being made and shown then.

You seem like a good, caring person with your heart in the right place. I hope you don't take our discussion to mean I am angry at you or think you are horrible lol. I think such discussion are good to have and thank you for having one with me.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: DavidBowieGirl

I have never been fine with that phrase due to the fact that age is not just a number, only when we reach adult age are such relationships acceptable, there should be no such unclearness on that. Real intimate relationships off or onscreen it doesn't matter, I am only fine if it's between two consenting adults who are the couple, no matter how gross some see it. If Alia was portraying someone younger then an adult or got this role when she she was younger then an adult, then I would for sure have a problem with this film and raise strong objection. You and others find this pairing disgusting that is fine, I won't force you to think otherwise! Alia can't help that she looks the way she does, if this role is something she does indeed want, which seems to be the case as it seems like this is her dream role then she should go for it is what I thought.

Again I have never heard of such an effect from these films. I know age gap is a big thing not just in India but even in Hollywood as well. This reminds me of the debate of if violence in video games is the reason for acts of violence in real life. If that is really happening then again, this is first time I am hearing about that and thank you for bringing that up, and now I have a problem with this and think these types of films should stop being made and shown then.

You seem like a good, caring person with your heart in the right place. I hope you don't take our discussion to mean I am angry at you or think you are horrible lol. I think such discussion are good to have and thank you for having one with me.

I understand your perspective, you are looking at it from a non influence/impact point and I get that! I was just trying to make sure you understand where I am coming from on my views toward it from obviously a very different perspective.

My opinions are developed due to a change I want to see in the industry, and the fact that huge age gap still exists and stories repeatedly glamorizing relationships between an older man and younger woman personally upsets me, b/c I thought we were moving beyond that as a society. The fact that she does look super young just enhances this negation in my point of view. There is certainly a huge impact on what is presented in the media/movies on the indian audience. The fact that she is 26, no one knows that. but visually presenting a very young looking girl with an older man and presenting/glamorizing this as acceptable influence mindsets at the end of the day, and impacts the culture of relationship dynamics which sadly targeted in opposition of older women.

In terms of characters and stories, I have no idea what this film is about. In today's time, no one realistically will find the story unappealing if it is done correctly.

and just to add-this reminds me of what srk said in an interview on romancing younger women on screen. He answered, look at donald trump and his wife are so many years apart (something of that sort)-that justified him being able to romance women half his age on screen (f that is not influence, i dont what it is)--this is the point im trying to make.

Edited by sania349 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sania349

it's the directors vision obviously. but what confuses me is that isnt SLB gay? so it probably is not made in the intention for these types of "fantasies"


No confusion, then - maybe he's able to grasp the concept intellectually, but doesn't feel how nonsensical it is.

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