Real Reason Why Kareena Kapoor Was Removed From Hrithik's Debut KNPH - Page 6

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Posted: 7 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: .FilmiDhun.

Kareena's attitude and acting took a long time to improve.

Her fans seem to forget her atrocious acting and distractingly big lips in a slew of films like mpkdh, k3g, mujhse dosti karogi etc etc that came along earlier in her career.

It is only after her relationship with Saif, marriage and subsequent motherhood that she has mellowed down quite a bit.

Anyway, point is yes, she is a good actress overall. But the amount of fawning the likes of Kjo and Manish Malhotra used to do over her during early 2000s is pukeworthy.🤢

KJo once even said that Kareena will always remain an Alister/superstar no matter how many flops she gives. Why? Because she is fair and comes from the so called "aristocratic" kapoor family?

let's not pretend that nepotism and industry support didnt help her sail through her string of flops and emerge as a top actress.


All the movies you listed she shot for within the same year or 2, so hardly can be used to show lack of progress.
By 2004 she was doing Dev, Chameli, Yuva, Aitraaz.
From 2004 till 2018 she's been a great actress. You use 2 years of bad acting against 14 years of good acting. And the reason kJo says she untouchable is not coz of nepotism.
He says she the LAST actress with the era of a superstar.
Speaking of which, last 5 films have been hits.
Edited by desigal90 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#52
kareena was way too entitled
i remember her early 2000s interviews..and her constant jaap..yeh tou abhi teaser dekh rai ho bhai..abhi tou shuruwat hai..

she was immature..dumb..entitled..spoiled..all those things and an average actor with 10 back to back flops

perfect recipe for an exit for good be it any outsider..

however nepotism can only take you thus far..post 2007..she saw a huge high..and ever since saif showed up in her life..she has mellowed down

babita has always been a gold digger..so not surprised..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90


Her acting was nothing special in Aitraaz. Haven't seen the other 2004 films to speak how noteworthy she was. With chameli atleast, I suspect part of the aclaim came along only because she made a choice that was considered bold for a leading actress back in that time.

From 2004 to 2018 she has been a great actress only in a handful of roles. Even after her 2007 JWM she was inconsistent in her performances with epics like Tashan, main aur Mrs khanna and kambaqt ishq. So saying Kareena has 14 years of good acting under her belt doesn't make sense to me.

Then from 2010 to 2015 or so she remained a "hit" actress by playing flowerpot in hero-centric masalas. And yes among the last 5 hits that you mentioned, 2 (bajrangi bhaijaan and singham returns) fall under that category. VDW and Udta Punjab's successes cannot be credited solely to her. She acted well in them though, I will give her that. Only ki and ka can be attributed as her solo success in recent times.

Given the ratio of bad films she has done in her career in comparison to good films, she would have never been paraded around as an A-list superstar if it weren't for the kind of backing she receives from the industry. I dont see what she has done other than being a reasonably good looking insider to warrant a superstar tag. There are too many bad films, flops and inconsistencies polluting her filmography for her to be called one imo.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can list some great films by year.
2003 - Chameli
2004 - Yuva and Dev
2005 - Kyonki
2006 - Omkara
2007 - Jab We Met
2008 - blah
2009 - Kurbaan and 3 Idiots
2010 - blah
2011 - blah and 2 hits
2012 - Talaash, Ek Main Aur Ekk tu
2013 - blah
2014 - hit
2015 - hit
2016 - Ki and Ka
2017 - Udta Punjab
2018 - Veere Di Wedding

I see a pretty consistent spread. If there were years she didn't have a good performance in, she either starred in a hit or she did 2 great performances the year prior.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Lol! Alia Bhatt itty bitty career span is more impressive i think.
And I think Deepika is more of a superstar. She really made it on her own rather than having a sugar daddy to ask for films when there was a drought.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Kareena Kapoor, was, is, and will always remain an over rated heck for me.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: chosen_destiny



Kareena would have gotten far more attention mileage and exposure than Ameesha got in KNPH..even a child can tell this. she belongs to a filmy family and she was making a big debut. and it's not like that RR had to face trouble working with her ... ask any director who worked with her initially like satish kaushik (MKKH) JP dutta ( refugee ) n even subhash ghai who were all aware of her tantrums she used to throw..not to mention her huge fight with bipasha on sets of ajnabee. all these films except Refugee released in 2001 which she must have shooting for all of them in 2000-2001 period. now please someone tell me, how in the world she got so many movies in one single go...was it because of her talent LOL. clearly nepotism was the case here...

and to those people who talks about her talent, let's just talk abt her talent n not her controversies or any other things. As a performer, she barely has done substantial work which is a FACT. she will be forgotten soon once she is out of industry because everyone would like to remember her for her controversial image or anything else but not her performances


even in ajnabee bipasha overshadowed her 😆 despite having less screen time... Movie revolved around bips character!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

Kareena's gonna cross 25 years one day if she keeps up, and people will still scream nepotism. 😆


Kareena can cross 40 years. It's still nepotism. 😉

Originally posted by: pakeezah



I can't think of a better debut for a newcomer than Kal Ho Na Ho. Amishas career did wonderfully because of it.


The irony is, by the time Kal Ho Na Ho was released in 2003, Ameesha's career was already over.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I still would have liked Kareena with Hrithik as they have a good chemistry unlike Hrithik and Ameesha. Hrithik mostly matches Kareena, Ash and Katrina. Ameesha could act well at times but God knows what happened then as she just disappeared from the industry and got no work then. Nobody would have imagined after having such a good debut. However, the major reason this movie did well was Hrithik as the story was not that great to become an ATBB but he was lucky to have such a great start.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Kareena has clearly mellowed with age, marriage and motherhood but by golly was she insufferable back then. Horrible attitude, super entitled and bitchy to everyone and their mother. She was completely unlikeable and had achieved nothing at that point. It is no wonder that she was thrown out, and the film was actually better for it, let's be real.

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