'Bollywood doesnt have the discipline to make a film like Bahubal

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Baahubali sound designer PM Satheesh: Bollywood doesn't have the discipline to make a film like this

Baahubali 2 sound designer PM Satheesh compares the working culture between Bollywood and regional film industry, and gives reasons as to why the former lags behind in terms of quality.

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Written by Priyanka Sharma | Mumbai | Updated: May 2, 2017 11:37 pm
pm satheesh, baahubali, satheesh baahubali, satheesh sound designer, baahubali sound designer, baahubali 2 sound designerSound designer PM Satheesh has won a National Award.

In his almost 20 years of career as a film sound designer, National award-winner PM Satheesh has worked on movies from both South industry and Bollywood, and hence is well versed with the working pattern of both the set-ups. His latest project is the mammoth blockbuster - Baahubali. Thanks to director SS Rajamouli's vision and a never-seen-before scale, the franchise has raised the bar of what's called quality filmmaking' notches higher, and has filmmakers across the country call it a benchmark in the movie business. But Satheesh believes it's not just the grandeur of the film that sets it apart, but also the discipline and intent with which Rajamouli and producer Yarlagadda made it.


In an interview to indianexpress.com, Satheesh, whose filmography also includes international collaborations, spoke about his experience creating those impactful sound effects for the period film, Rajamouli's obsession with perfection and why a film like Baahubali will not come naturally to filmmakers in Bollywood.

"What we lack here (Bollywood) is discipline. Why is that stuff like this (Baahubali) happening in Telugu cinema and is being pulled off wonderfully there because the money for the film of this sort goes into the production. It's not eaten up by a few big stars. If you have a 600 crore-film in Mumbai, at max Rs 100 crore will go into the production, if you are lucky. Otherwise, everything is siphoned out to a few stars and people. In Baahubali, every penny has gone into the production that's why it shows," Satheesh said before adding that in Bollywood, he has had to struggle even for the most "basic" requirements.

"If you look at the sound budget of Baahubali, people in Bollywood will faint because they will not spend that kind of money for the quality. That's a huge difference. We ask anything to the production of Baahubali, if that's justified, if we can logically and rationally explain that to the producer or the director, it's done. Nobody asks another question. But here, we have to struggle so much to convince them for the basics. So, you need to have an intention and a discipline to put that money into the production," he said.

While talking about intent and dedication, the sound designer mentioned Rajamouli and said that one needs to be as conscious about quality as the filmmaker to be able to pull off a Baahubali.

"Baahubali sets a standard of quality, our culture has been like let's somehow save the money and if that works then good', as opposed to Rajamouli, who on the last day of the sound mixing, was editing the film because some of the CGs (computer graphics) were not up to his mark. He removed those scenes from the story. He had the courage to remove that after the film was mixed and ready to be put out. That's how quality conscious he is," Satheesh revealed.

Besides Rajamouli's passion, it was also his openness to suggestions, which impressed Satheesh. "During the making, we had discussions on sound effects. What was good about them was that he wanted to see the versions we had churned out. This was because the makers had a set picture in their mind, so, they wanted to see someone else, who are experts of sound, how do we approach. It would be quite nice rather than corrupting our mind with what they want because it's a different point of view. So, I feel he looks at what he has in his mind and what others have to say and then decide the best for the film."

pm satheesh, baahubali, satheesh baahubali, satheesh sound designer, baahubali sound designer, baahubali 2 sound designerSound designer PM Satheesh at work during the post production of Baahubali.

Unlike the first part, for which Satheesh and his team of four had to travel abroad to design the sound, all the work this time was done in India, and the designer is glad it turned out this way.

"Ramoji Film City (in Hyderabad) has godowns, where all the properties used in a film are dumped. So, we could use them to create sound. A lot of properties that you see in the film, we actually used them to create sound. This time we didn't go abroad for the sound design because there we don't get enough properties. We called the guy here and all the work was done in India. It helps when you have real stuff to design the sound effects." Satheesh has used Dolby Atmos technology for the film, and the designer said he felt like a child owning his dream toys.

"For a sound designer, Dolby Atmos is a way through which a child can get all his dream toys and he or she can play with them any which way around. It's the format, which gives us the perfect 3D space sound and now, it's up to us how to use it. I have always worked on Dolby and Atmos is the ultimate thing. What better can you get than this? There are times that we overuse it, but that's because we don't believe in subtleties, we like more of in-your-face' kind of things. But I think with time, we will start using it judiciously. At least, I make sure that I am not using it to create any shock value and its effects should go perfectly with the story."

The sound editor, who has worked on Bollywood films like Angry Indian Goddesses, Kaminey and Ishqiya, now has actor Saif Ali Khan's next in his kitty. Directed by Akshat Verma (of Delhi Belly fame), the movie's working title is Kalakandi. The film, which has been shot, is now ready for sound mixing.

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"If you look at the sound budget of Baahubali, people in Bollywood will faint because they will not spend that kind of money for the quality. That's a huge difference. We ask anything to the production of Baahubali, if that's justified, if we can logically and rationally explain that to the producer or the director, it's done. Nobody asks another question. But here, we have to struggle so much to convince them for the basics. So, you need to have an intention and a discipline to put that money into the production," he said.


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Originally posted by: Schmmuck


If you have a 600 crore-film in Mumbai, at max Rs 100 crore will go into the production, if you are lucky. Otherwise, everything is siphoned out to a few stars and people. In Baahubali, every penny has gone into the production that's why it shows," Satheesh said before adding that in Bollywood, he has had to struggle even for the most "basic" requirements.

"If you look at the sound budget of Baahubali, people in Bollywood will faint because they will not spend that kind of money for the quality.


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I do agree that at times it does look that bollywood stars are charging alot... But say someone like salman - uske naam se hi picture chalti hai so why shouldn't he ask for a lot...

But yes i dont agree with when like 75% of your budget is eaten by actors who fail to deliver or aamir's tactic of allegedly asking for 80% of the profits...


The economics are all out of whack in bw. So say ranbir asking for 30+ crores does not make sense at all. We need to apportion budget to the technical department as well
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So where the rest of the money goes if its not being used in production ??? If some share of total budget is being used in production!!!
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On discipline yeah they really don't have discipline and professionalism...

all idea and stories are according to producers demand...or the one who is investing for the film...

see the story of sultan or ETA or banranji bhaijan...it doesn't qualify for hit ...but then they are hits or i say super hits...

Bollywood doesn't experiments with story ...only few in two years does one dares to tell story in different layout example kahaani...badlapur...shor in the city...


i really want BW to expand its story telling and not rely on one or two producer who are doing gundagardi 🤣🤣


on topic i serious think Bahubali 1 and 2 didn't required 400 crores...this only shows that they were duped 😆😆 big time...

else profit would had been maximum in the history of Indian cinema for Bahubali 1 and 2
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

I do agree that at times it does look that bollywood stars are charging alot... But say someone like salman - uske naam se hi picture chalti hai so why shouldn't he ask for a lot...

But yes i dont agree with when like 75% of your budget is eaten by actors who fail to deliver or aamir's tactic of allegedly asking for 80% of the profits...


The economics are all out of whack in bw. So say ranbir asking for 30+ crores does not make sense at all. We need to apportion budget to the technical department as well

it's fine if Salman asks 80% profit?
guess the % profit depends whether they co-produce.And no one knows the % investment in the film.


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this film used VFX so convincingly that too by using low cost effective Indian techno...

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjUXr560Gu0[/YOUTUBE]


but then if you had called foreign tech it would had cost like bomb...

That's where Bahubali failed big time in wasting too much money on nonsense scene which would had been made cost effective by indian techie ...


alas their circus ...😆

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Originally posted by: raj80

it's fine if Salman asks 80% profit?

guess the % profit depends whether they co-produce.And no one knows the % investment in the film.



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Salman is also asking for 80% profit??? ... Sab greedy ho gaye hain...


Btw, no, no actor should get any % of profit... Profit is the return you get for taking the risk, actually investing money... Yeh kya baat hui - profit hai toh 80% doh, loss hai toh ta-ta bye-bye ... Unless you are actually coproducing and then your share should be in proportion to your investment
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BW really needs to pay the stars per their standing

giving 38 crores to ranbir and 50 to HR and they give a BV and a MD..no other industry would ever do that..i agree..most of the money is wasted on these stars who cannot even give an opening..they are either social media stars or PR stars staying in news for relationships..but when their movie releases..you don't see all these people defending them online going to cinemas..

the likes of ranbir..HR should at max be given 3-4 crores..but does BW have guts to do this to these self proclaimed PR made superstars belonging to rich and influencial families..NO..and the results are for us all to see..
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