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Posted: 8 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Padfoot_Prongs

But they have English on their boards. instructions in Hindi helps whole north India. According to ur logic, Placards wud have to be placed in every language. Any regional office like Andhra Bahwan or Tamil Bhawan etc. have boards in their languages. and hindi populaton going there and settling wont change much except may be learning the native language just like Keralaites who reside in Delhi do. I dont see them changing the South culture. It is Indian Culture's beauty. A migrant hardly affect things on bigger scale. Keralite residing in Delhi will adapt to its culture and a north Indian going to Kerala will do the same. They are not putting Hindi above native languages. they did not remove regional language from the boards.

On Brahmanism, the person said that UP Brahmanism is being transported to South. South have their more vicious version of Brahmanism. In politics. they may not have big say directly but they are bigger part of bureaucracy. every part of India have Brahmanism differing from others and nothing can change them. UP's different from Tamil Nadu and UP's one cant effect TN's one.



@bold shows the issues is. India in now caught up and learning English. So English and local language(s) should be enough. Kearalites who reside in Delhi, their second generation learnt and speaks HIndi. How many in Bangalore whose second generation does not speak the local language.

You can say a migrant hardly affects, and say Keralite living in Delhi willa deapt while NI going to Kerala will do the same. But when the services and education are set up in a way in which they don't need to, that is exactly what will happen.

And yes, local language was removed from many highways. I will try to search for the pics, but they were. And all it proves is that if not now, after the outcry, it will be attempted again. Then again, then again. Until it becomes norm.

It's not just the boards. It's everything else combined with it. Policies designed to help Hindi speakers over others.

South have vicious version which social changes and politics have kept in check. But who is getting free hand where, and that's the politics that they try to import down to TN and Kerala to undermine the advances made to keep it in check.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess.wh0

Some of the posts on here are so ridiculous. I have 0 interest in south Indian cinema, I don't understand the languages and I have no desire to watch a dubbed film. Meri marzi...
Its as ridiculous as a Punjabi calling South Indians ignorant because they have 0 knowledge of Bhangra/Punjabi music, which is way bigger than Bollywood music, except the few tunes Bollywood 'rearranges' and 'rehashes'.
The Hindi Propaganda has been there for years and isn't just relegated to South Indian states but I get the point behind it. It's made to make communication easier when moving from one state to another. Hindi had the largest number of speakers so they decided to go with Hindi. It makes sense on a lot of levels. You can't be expected to learn a new language moving from one state to another. How would that work? The point is you should learn your mother tongue, but it would be to your own benefit to know Hindi & especially English if you plan to pursue life and opportunities away from the little caccon, that is your state.
Lastly, none of this has anything to do with Bahubali, anchors make mistakes all the time. To make this a political debate and call others ignorant just reeks of insecurity.




And have local languages relegated as lower class, which is in the Railways Act itself. Hindi's large numbers come after including the so-called 'dialects' which are older than Hindi itself.

Once again, cannot be expected to learn a new language is bull. How many times do you move from state to state? And English as link language is enough. Hindi is not needed. English is enough, there is no need to promote Hindi over other languages. If need, let states who are Hind-speaking promote. Union promoting, giving incentives, placing Hindi-fluency levels for jobs which Hindi is not needed--all directly hurt the local languages.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: guess.wh0

Some of the posts on here are so ridiculous. I have 0 interest in south Indian cinema, I don't understand the languages and I have no desire to watch a dubbed film. Meri marzi...


i guess it's a personal choice then.i can watch any good movie dubbed or even with subtitles, regional from india or from any country!! i have south indian friends who like traditional folk punjabi pakistani or indian music. i like good movies i don't care if they are bollywood,hollywood or nollywood!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Assam
https://twitter.com/himjyoti/status/856174058253279232

Odisha
https://twitter.com/GargaC/status/855389456055943168
https://twitter.com/SirDebasis/status/855397359018168320

Railway Week Celebrations in Chennai
https://twitter.com/boopalsridhar/status/852051529251119105

Karnataka coming up
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Posted: 8 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani



And have local languages relegated as lower class, which is in the Railways Act itself. Hindi's large numbers come after including the so-called 'dialects' which are older than Hindi itself.

Once again, cannot be expected to learn a new language is bull. How many times do you move from state to state? And English as link language is enough. Hindi is not needed. English is enough, there is no need to promote Hindi over other languages. If need, let states who are Hind-speaking promote. Union promoting, giving incentives, placing Hindi-fluency levels for jobs which Hindi is not needed--all directly hurt the local languages.



ok here i agree with guess who!! hindi the dilect know as (khadi boli) is our national language and english the official language!!The official languages of the Union Government of the Republic of India are 21 languages and English as mentioned in article 343/1 of the Constitution of India.,you can't expect people to know regional languages unless they are living there or moved to some state!! no language is above any it's about where you live and your own choice wether you want to learn a specific language or not plus convinience!!yes mostly all south indians speak english so if you travel you will have no probelm!!
bdw south india is beautifull!!!
the ruling in 2010, all 22 official languages are meant to be taken on equal footing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lailaMai



ok here i agree with guess who!! hindi the dilect know as (khadi boli) is our national language and english the official language!!The official languages of the Union Government of the Republic of India are 21 languages and English as mentioned in article 343/1 of the Constitution of India.,you can't expect people to know regional languages unless they are living there or moved to some state!!



Hindi is not the national language. There is no one national language in India. India has no national language. Hindi and English, after the South fought for it are the official languages of the union.

States were/are allowed to conduct in their own languages.

But when Railways, Highways, Education, Banks, all have various Hindi imposition by the Centre, then Hindi being the sole official Indian language of the union poses a very serious problem.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Assam
https://twitter.com/himjyoti/status/856174058253279232

Odisha
https://twitter.com/GargaC/status/855389456055943168
https://twitter.com/SirDebasis/status/855397359018168320

Railway Week Celebrations in Chennai
https://twitter.com/boopalsridhar/status/852051529251119105

Karnataka coming up


Karnataka markers in only Hindi

https://twitter.com/hariprasadholla/status/775890934407888896

https://twitter.com/hariprasadholla/status/769805052290535427

This is all just the tip of the iceberg. Those who want to look into it, can do so.

And those who will continue to say the same old, same old--it's obvious that it's never going to make any impact no matter what and you will go on to support Hindi imperialism and flick off/ dismiss why people are opposing it in their own lands.🥱
Edited by KhatamKahani - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani



Hindi is not the national language. There is no one national language in India. India has no national language. Hindi and English, after the South fought for it are the official languages of the union.

States were/are allowed to conduct in their own languages.

But when Railways, Highways, Education, Banks, all have various Hindi imposition by the Centre, then Hindi being the sole official Indian language of the union poses a very serious problem.


As per Article 343 of the Constitution of India, India'sofficial languages shall be Standard Hindi (the dialect known as khadi boli) written in the Devanagari script, and English. ... So, we end up having a total of 22 official languages today (excluding English). However, India does not have a national language.

yes you are right!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hindi versus other languages debate. This is defenitely not because of British. If they had not ruled us, we all would have belonged to different kingdoms. We would have fought and got our independence separately and be different countries (like countries in EU). Let us not blame British for Hindi domination.


Yes. There is a bit of compulsory Hindi in primary schools, which I think is totally not needed. No one has learnt any Hindi because of that. I am sharing my personal experience in Hindi exam paper. There used to be one 5 mark question based on a paragraph. There were 5 sentences in the para and 5 questions based on the same para. As a thumb rule, I answered first sentence for first question and so on. I could never learn how to construct one sentence properly and still I got away with 90%.
Today, whatever Hindi south Indians know is because of soft power of Bollywood (it started with Maha Bharat from Door Darshan). Having said, one cannot deny Hindi once tried to impose itself (still tries) on others.

Pre independence, intellectuals in UP decided Hindus and Muslims cannot stay. Which states got divided? Not UP. Instead, Punjab and Bengal. That is what is imposing thoughts.
UP guys did not end here. Those who stayed in India (Hindus) tried imposing Hindi on other states. Those who went to Pakistan (Muslims) tried imposing their Urdu on rest of the Pakistan.
Nehru stopped pushing too hard when Tamilnad put its foot down and threatened to quit the country. Pakistan centre did not care when Bengalis said the same. Eventually Bengalis broke away from Pakistan. This is what happens when something is imposed without people's will.
Funny thing is how Panjabis (east or west) back Hindi/Urdu at the cost of their own language. Main contributors to Bollywood (Hindi) movies are Punjabis. But they are not able to produce films of that scale in their own language. Forget Bollywood, they don't compete with other regional films too either in terms of content or budget. (One cannot forget, it was Punjabis who helped British in suppressing the first Indian war of independence). Nothing to belittle anyone. But they often set their priorities wrong.

What bothers many South Indians is the way they are perceived by many North Indians. South Indians are just some dark human beings who are not as handsome as them. This is despite being economically and technically more advanced. Four decades after independence, India was still underdeveloped or developing country. In few years, it changed its course. India and China's name started appearing in prime time news of western media. The man who made this happen in few years time was a South Indian who probably looked like an ape to North Indians. Brain is beyond looks.
South and west India's advancement has lead to low birth rates, hence less number of seats in Parliament. Right now in India, west and south contribute more towards economy. But more money is being spent on east and north states (like Kashmir and Bengal). All these states do is Hartaal and bandh. But then, one (state) cannot dissociate themselves so easily. South India do not have enough energy resources. Bengal has coal. Gujarat coast has petrol. South India does not even have enough water (hence talks of joining rivers). South Indian states themselves do not get along all the times. How much ever one hate the other, we all need each other. Then why hatred?

Better to know, constitution has not provided superiority to any language. Also, when someone goes and settles in some other state (be it a North Indian settling in Bangalore or a Tamilian settling in Mumbai) for more than three years, make an attempt to learn the local language. The region which is feeding you owes that much respect at least.
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Posted: 8 years ago


But when Railways, Highways, Education, Banks, all have various Hindi imposition by the Centre, then Hindi being the sole official Indian language of the union poses a very serious problem.

education-yes we can have an option of selecting any one of the 22 languages as an extra subject.although the process involved in acheiving that will be very expensive .think adding 20 more teachers to each school in india!!
banks,railways etc- we have 22 official languages.it's impossible to have paper work etc in 22 different languages.you have to use and teach one common language except english and the majority choose hindi!!.yes i agree it can be any language and not hindi but then do u want to start a debate with people from 22 states? everyone will want their own regional language!!
do you think this wouldn't have been debated before!!
dr ambedkar wanted our officilal or national language to be sanskrit.indians chose hindi!!
majority wins!!
Edited by lailaMai - 8 years ago

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