Cinematographers and Editors - Do they get enough credit? - Page 2

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Why do you think the reviews of Bollywood critics are so unvalued? Because they don't talk about what matters. It has considerably improved over the last decade but before that, they would literally review like audiences, based on whether they liked the story (which is the main aspect but not the only one). No one gives an insight into the craft of filmmaking. Hardly any mention of cinematography, camera work, frames, lighting, costumes, audiography, etc. There are so many cinematic techniques that go into filmmaking and no one writes about it.

I myself didn't know about all this. The first time I got curious was when I saw Rockstar and hated it! And i wondered why because it was obviously a great story. Then why I didn't I like the film? And this introspection lead me to other aspects that shape up a good film.

There needs to be a revolution within the industry. Screenwriters didn't get credit either and they were paid peanuts till Salim-Javed took necessary steps, most of the good was undone post their split but the value of a great script is way more acknowledged today.

Ayan Mukherjee once said that being an actor is the best job to have in the industry because they're treated like stars on the set while the crew is labourers. Which is so contrasting to the Hollywood scenario where actors don't find their job very empowering because they have the least say in the storytelling.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This makes me wonder on whether there re in fact many Bwood movies that allow to showcase the talent of a cinematographer or an editor?


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fivestars

ofcourse they do get enough credit in the name of awards ..isnt it ? like best cinematography and best editing awards ?

award shows mein bhi they dont get oppurtunity to thank anyone , ya phir that is edited by some editor
see the irony
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chippeshwini



more often than not, people tend to give actors more credit over edtiors if its a successful movie 😆


In BW, 70% credit is for the actors, 20% for the director, 5% writer, rest 5% is shared between everyone else. 😕😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chippeshwini

This makes me wonder on whether there re in fact many Bwood movies that allow to showcase the talent of a cinematographer or an editor?





Well, not so sure about cinematography but doesn't every movie require proper and crisp editing to shine?

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I remember reading a blog entry by Baradwaj Rangan on the film Jigarthanda and it's aspects of sound, dialogue mixing etc..obviously most of us would find it very technical but more emphasis on those technical aspects would only highlight their importance in the entire process of making a film. I totally agree with Jane here, unless these critics and movie experts don't speak about such significant technicians, the audience wouldn't really know about them. I think, it's also the duty of directors to credit the editors accordingly.

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LOL @the irony of editors being asked to edit the speech of editors. Very interesting point 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .krackjack.

I totally agree with Jane here, unless these critics and movie experts don't speak about such significant technicians, the audience wouldn't really know about them.


That's exactly my point. Story aspect was always there of course but reviews started with being concentrated on the performances and music, so actors and composers started becoming brand-names. Then they added direction, directors became brand-names in their own right. Now the critics have started emphasising on the importance of screenplay so writers are gaining prominence, the first brandname in this is Zoya Akhtar. Audiences actually look forward to what she will write next. We need similar exposure for others involved.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .krackjack.



Well, not so sure about cinematography but doesn't every movie require proper and crisp editing to shine?

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I remember reading a blog entry by Baradwaj Rangan on the film Jigarthanda and it's aspects of sound, dialogue mixing etc..obviously most of us would find it very technical but more emphasis on those technical aspects would only highlight their importance in the entire process of making a film. I totally agree with Jane here, unless these critics and movie experts don't speak about such significant technicians, the audience wouldn't really know about them. I think, it's also the duty of directors to credit the editors accordingly.

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LOL @the irony of editors being asked to edit the speech of editors. Very interesting point 😆



Definitely

I think often, people take editting for granted.. or I definitely do 😆
But I guess editing gives a film the entire feel that it has.

Editing failures are easier to spot than great editing too, IMO. Case in point Bombay Velvet..

and while some will disagree, I found the editing of Detective Byomkesh Bakshy rather sloppy
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chippeshwini



Definitely

I think often, people take editting for granted.. or I definitely do 😆
But I guess editing gives a film the entire feel that it has.

Editing failures are easier to spot than great editing too, IMO. Case in point Bombay Velvet..

and while some will disagree, I found the editing of Detective Byomkesh Bakshy rather sloppy



Lol. True. Like the annoying editing that happens for awards shows. Totally cringeworthy 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chippeshwini



Definitely

I think often, people take editting for granted.. or I definitely do 😆
But I guess editing gives a film the entire feel that it has.

Editing failures are easier to spot than great editing too, IMO. Case in point Bombay Velvet..

and while some will disagree, I found the editing of Detective Byomkesh Bakshy rather sloppy


+100

Editing can make or break the film. Probably one of the most difficult aspects of filmmaking to get the pace of the film just right.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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forget the technicians even directors don't get enough credit all stolen by the male superstar

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