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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nuktaacheen

but you said it yourself...! 😛 it is her own decision at the end of the day, no matter how you look at it... if you care more about what people are going to think about you thus behave in a certain manner, onus is on yourself...! 😉
however, i find it a moot point... considering we don't have a single example of anyone whose career took a turn AFTER their marriage... 😛😛😛 your point would be idealistically valid, if we had such examples... everyone got married after their career took a downhill turn... ye hota, wo hota, are just speculations... hence, realistically i don't see the validity of such statements...!! 😉
and a lot of actresses never cared about wearing a bikini after their marriage... sharmila tagore... her marriage did not change anything for her, so really she took the decision herself... she had a great career before and after... she did not get married when offers stopped coming for her, and her career went downhill...! 😛
as i said, the general audience does not really care about the status of the celebrity... sure, there might be some die hard fans and such who might get 'effected' (speculation), but in general i don't see that being the case for as you said, the indian audience...!!


that's what I'm trying to say - the society does come into play. it's not like the actresses's decision isn't affected by another factor other than her own sensibilities. It has a huge impact on the choice they make. they may choose to oppose the general standpoint of the society but that's a struggle of it's own. it's not easy to take a stand knowing that it might result in consequences.

well for women who waited for their career to bite the dust and then got married, probably believe that marriage is actually the end of it all. that once you're done with your flight and come to a dead end, security becomes the top most priority and what other institution other than marriage can provide security for life?

wearing a bikini is not a benchmark to judge the working niche of an actress. I used that example to point out the difference between the pre and post marriage working styles. kajol has been taking up the same kind of roles that require heavy melodrama and ash has been treading very carefully whilst checking that she doesn't step out of her boundary. my question still stays - why the U-turn after marriage? why should a woman subconsciously decide to sacrifice a certain kind of image just because she's married?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: CZ..


that's what I'm trying to say - the society does come into play. it's not like the actresses's decision isn't affected by another factor other than her own sensibilities. It has a huge impact on the choice they make. they may choose to oppose the general standpoint of the society but that's a struggle of it's own. it's not easy to take a stand knowing that it might result in consequences.

well for women who waited for their career to bite the dust and then got married, probably believe that marriage is actually the end of it all. that once you're done with your flight and come to a dead end, security becomes the top most priority and what other institution other than marriage can provide security for life?

wearing a bikini is not a benchmark to judge the working niche of an actress. I used that example to point out the difference between the pre and post marriage working styles. kajol has been taking up the same kind of roles that require heavy melodrama and ash has been treading very carefully whilst checking that she doesn't step out of her boundary. my question still stays - why the U-turn after marriage? why should a woman subconsciously decide to sacrifice a certain kind of image just because she's married?




I think in Aish's case, the Bachchans made it clear to her that she had to act more "properly" after marriage.
She had that kiss with Hrithik in Dhoom 2 but a week after the movie was out, the kissing scene disappeared! So it's not just the actress, but also the family and their beliefs that she's marrying into

Hehe, the Khans are more liberal while the Bachchans are strictly conservative😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolchick



I think in Aish's case, the Bachchans made it clear to her that she had to act more "properly" after marriage.
She had that kiss with Hrithik in Dhoom 2 but a week after the movie was out, the kissing scene disappeared! So it's not just the actress, but also the family and their beliefs that she's marrying into

Hehe, the Khans are more liberal while the Bachchans are strictly conservative😆


yes, basically there is a certain pressure - it may come from the society or the family/husband, but it does exist and does affect the actresses's decision. she cannot simply do whatever she wishes to do without looking around.

I remember the controversy about the kiss in dhoom 2. I wouldn't qualify that little awkward moment as a 'kiss' but it was blown up at such a large scale that I had expected some sort of a love making scene or something 😕 but it turned out to be nothing. and this happened even before she got married!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: CZ..


yes, basically there is a certain pressure - it may come from the society or the family/husband, but it does exist and does affect the actresses's decision. she cannot simply do whatever she wishes to do without looking around.

I remember the controversy about the kiss in dhoom 2. I wouldn't qualify that little awkward moment as a 'kiss' but it was blown up at such a large scale that I had expected some sort of a love making scene or something 😕 but it turned out to be nothing. and this happened even before she got married!




I agree...Aish and Hrthik were made to look like a bunch of fools with this "controversy"
No wonder why she steers clear of any "kissing" scenes now

There is pressure of course but the actress must also be willing to give importance to the social rules as well if they want to remain at the top which is sad

That's why I'm rooting for people like Kareena and Priyanka, who I have a feeling, won't care about what others think of them if they get married in "ten plus" years; Kareena especially seems to be the type to go against old traditions and formulate new ones instead
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolchick




I agree...Aish and Hrthik were made to look like a bunch of fools with this "controversy"
No wonder why she steers clear of any "kissing" scenes now

There is pressure of course but the actress must also be willing to give importance to the social rules as well if they want to remain at the top which is sad

That's why I'm rooting for people like Kareena and Priyanka, who I have a feeling, won't care about what others think of them if they get married in "ten plus" years; Kareena especially seems to be the type to go against old traditions and formulate new ones instead


exactly. they can decide to not give a rat's ass about their image and go ahead with an independent decision, but that would also automatically sign the death warrant of their careers.

I don't see kareena and priyanka sacrificing their choices either, but I still hope they avoid marriage for another 3 or 4 years to avoid any complication 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: CZ..


that's what I'm trying to say - the society does come into play. it's not like the actresses's decision isn't affected by another factor other than her own sensibilities. It has a huge impact on the choice they make. they may choose to oppose the general standpoint of the society but that's a struggle of it's own. it's not easy to take a stand knowing that it might result in consequences.

well for women who waited for their career to bite the dust and then got married, probably believe that marriage is actually the end of it all. that once you're done with your flight and come to a dead end, security becomes the top most priority and what other institution other than marriage can provide security for life?
and that's what i said all along... it's really their own decision... none of them really married in their primes, so whatever happened with their career, was sort of manifestation of their own decisions...! 😛

wearing a bikini is not a benchmark to judge the working niche of an actress. I used that example to point out the difference between the pre and post marriage working styles. kajol has been taking up the same kind of roles that require heavy melodrama and ash has been treading very carefully whilst checking that she doesn't step out of her boundary. my question still stays - why the U-turn after marriage? why should a woman subconsciously decide to sacrifice a certain kind of image just because she's married?

why, i don't know... it depends on the woman herself too... it's not exactly that they are following any conservative norms of the society before their marriage, is it... they do bold scenes and pretty much everything that comes with the territory... i wasn't being specific about a bikini scene either... 😛😛
kajol's point, as i mentioned earlier... she shoots at her own convenience... so really, she herself is limiting her choices... that would happen with the case of actors as well... some would sign them, who are willing to compromise with these restrictions, but most of the others would just sign someone else... plenty of choices to choose from... ek jaaye ga, to doosra aaye ga...!
why just in bollywood, it happens in real life... if you keep taking days off to look after your kids and slack off your work, i gaurantee you will be getting served with a letter of termination...! 😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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again, rani still suits the roles... she has maintained herself... and plenty of actors with whom she can be paired with still... but then again, her days would be numbered with the coming of the new actors and actresses... that is a fact... how many roles could she possibly do with actors who look like babies...? 😕 you have to suit the part...! reasonable difference is okay..!
madhuri is the most fantastic dancers we have (this is my personal view; others don't need to agree), but would she make shiela ki jawani as much of a hit as katrina...? i doubt it... again, madhuri is my favourite and i don't mean to say this as a disrespect or anything, but i'm being realistic...! 😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
#38
Great topic CZ 👏

(i) does your outlook towards an actress change after her marriage? if so, why?
Nope not at all, what does marriage have to do with one's acting?

(ii) do you feel that marriage unknowingly creates a barrier between the audience and the actress because as per the indian values, she's not longer available?
Bollywood is a sexist and a hypocritical industry with a very harsh and objectifying attitude towards women, and the society in general is no different so yes, unfortunately, marriage does create a barrier in bollywood and so does age. We all know how people start calling women in their 30s "aunties and mommys". It's sad but its the truth. 🤢

(iii) does marriage limit the kind of roles an actress can do?
I dont see the connection between marriage and the roles you do BUT since bollywood are so sexist, yes it does and unfortunately, marriage has NO effect on men's roles. HYPOCRISY 🤢

(iv) what are the different kinds of images that a married actress has to subconsciously live up to?
Has to maintain the "clean" and "modest" image. 🤢

(v) how do you think the situation is different from that of hollywood?
Cant even compare the two. You see married women with 3 kids working in the best movies with such brilliant roles that gain both critics and audience's appreciation along with a million awards. Nothing changes for them after marriage. Theres a long list of women who were married with kids and still succeeded more than the un-married ones for example, Emma Thompson, Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Angelina Jolie (not technically married but has like 6 children and still does more action in her movies than all of our bollywood actors combined), Helen Mirren, Julia Roberts, Tilds Swinton etc etc etc the list never ends.

God know when things will change in bollywood 🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: eraser

Great topic CZ 👏


(i) does your outlook towards an actress change after her marriage? if so, why?
Nope not at all, what does marriage have to do with one's acting?

(ii) do you feel that marriage unknowingly creates a barrier between the audience and the actress because as per the indian values, she's not longer available?
Bollywood is a sexist and a hypocritical industry with a very harsh and objectifying attitude towards women, and the society in general is no different so yes, unfortunately, marriage does create a barrier in bollywood and so does age. We all know how people start calling women in their 30s "aunties and mommys". It's sad but its the truth. 🤢

(iii) does marriage limit the kind of roles an actress can do?
I dont see the connection between marriage and the roles you do BUT since bollywood are so sexist, yes it does and unfortunately, marriage has NO effect on men's roles. HYPOCRISY 🤢

(iv) what are the different kinds of images that a married actress has to subconsciously live up to?
Has to maintain the "clean" and "modest" image. 🤢

(v) how do you think the situation is different from that of hollywood?
Cant even compare the two. You see married women with 3 kids working in the best movies with such brilliant roles that gain both critics and audience's appreciation along with a million awards. Nothing changes for them after marriage. Theres a long list of women who were married with kids and still succeeded more than the un-married ones for example, Emma Thompson, Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Angelina Jolie (not technically married but has like 6 children and still does more action in her movies than all of our bollywood actors combined), Helen Mirren, Julia Roberts, Tilds Swinton etc etc etc the list never ends.

God know when things will change in bollywood 🤢


thanks for the reply eraser, I can see that you're quite repulsed at the state of affairs in Bwood and I completely concur with that feeling --> 🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Don't know marriage change our outlook towards an actress, or an actress gets married when our outlook change towards her.
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