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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwww

Why is it considered so bad for a woman to have had relationships before marriage ?
So she broke with Salman and Vivek for whatever reasons - so what ?
Atleast she had affairs with single men unlike some of the other actresses who have affairs with married men and break their homes.
Also why is it such a big deal that she broke up with Vivek ? maybe their relationship just didnt work - should she have married him and then filed for a divorce years later ? Also him dumping his fiance is hardly mentioned why is that ? what goes around comes around.
God forbid if all employers were like SRK - all abused women would have no option but hang themselves (I really like srk and have like him since his Fauji days but this particular time he was totally in the wrong - yeah he would have suffered a few losses so ? isnt being a good human being worth it ?)

totally agree with the parts that are in bold
Thank god she didnt do what some others did🤢
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well, I've never really liked her myself, and I think the other thing that makes me feel negative towards her, is her fans. Its like when people talk about Sonam Kapoor fans bad mouthing Deepika and Sonam gets the bad karma.😆😆 Sort of like that, I really don't see what is so amazing in her. She's good but her fans act like she's a goddess, who has some sort of super power or something😆😆😆 (btw, I'm talking about the fans i've seen on youtube and other sites) But I won't say I hate her, because as they say, 'LOVE and HATE' are pretty strong words, but I defiantly don't like her. I don't think she has done anything amazing and to compare her to the league of Gandhi is out or order. He was a human being who revolutionized the idea of revolution itself and she is a mere ex beauty queen and a current actress. So yeah, I think her being over hyped is one of the reasons I don't like her, there are better people out there! But I don't everything shouldn't like becuase of this reason either, lol.

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Btw, this is all purely my opinion, please don't get offended.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: laksh_kt

The only reason she is ok w/ Preity is because Veer Zaara was offered to Ash first. But after she declined, Preity called her up to ask her PERMISSION to play the role. And Rani didnt. So shes bad. That makes NO sense to me at all. Aishwarya was wrong in making Rani feel bad like that.
Frankly, I think that your points are for lack of a better word, idiotic.



OMG...Preity phoned her up???😲 Wow, I didn't expect that, I guess she prob did so, just in case their relationship turned sour, but why would Ash care if she gave up the role a bit hypocritical. No? I think Rani was right, she didn't do anything wrong, talk about over reacting on Ashes side!
~ Plus, I'm glad Ash declined Zaara's role!! I love the movie and Preity and Srks chemistry is amazing compared to Ashes and Srk's

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Aishwarya Rai Bachchan is a Legend .Whether it is her divine beauty or her amazing carrer,She is a name that noone in Bollwood can reach , Even Biggies like her father in law , Srk , Amir or Rani and Hrithik cant be compared to her cause she is udoubtedly the most sussessful star in Bollywood even with many flps to her crdit .

not Rani-not Madhuri-Not Preity-Not Kajol-Not Kareena and not Priyanka or Deepika.All al might get thousands of crores for their movie and even might get a lil fame out side bollywod like Shilpa sheety but no one is gonna replace Aishwarya Rai because the woman is a freaking Legend .

And please stop talking bout Aish being in a relationship before marriage cause the last time I checked every bollywood actress acts and lives like a western person in bollwood now.Kareena has become the biggest slut by changing partners and getting intimate even when she knows the relationship is not gonna last and the rest of actresses arent all that good goody either.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: mrbajajisheaven

And please stop talking bout Aish being in a relationship before marriage cause the last time I checked every bollywood actress acts and lives like a western person in bollwood now.Kareena has become the biggest s**t by changing partners and getting intimate even when she knows the relationship is not gonna last and the rest of actresses arent all that good goody either.

I, for one, am not too fond of Kareena but to call her names simply because she's dating is rather unfair. It didn't work out with one guy so she moved on. I really don't see what is wrong with that. To call her a "s**t" is rather radical. After all, you don't know for a fact if she was sexually active with her boyfriends.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ~Ouma*n*Ranbir~



OMG...Preity phoned her up???😲 Wow, I didn't expect that, I guess she prob did so, just in case their relationship turned sour, but why would Ash care if she gave up the role a bit hypocritical. No? I think Rani was right, she didn't do anything wrong, talk about over reacting on Ashes side!
~ Plus, I'm glad Ash declined Zaara's role!! I love the movie and Preity and Srks chemistry is amazing compared to Ashes and Srk's

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Aishwarya did not ask Preity to phone her for the role of Zaara. Preity knew that Yash Chopra wanted Aish for Zaara but it is Srk who asked him to take somebody else because he did not want to work with Aishwarya.
For Rani and Chalte Chalte it's different because Aishwarya had already begun to shoot and Srk replaced her without explanations what is really unfair after that Srk said that he regretted what he made.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: piya_y116

Anyways, as for the topic..her fans will come and say she is the most beautiful and blah blah..blah, so women hate her! Personally, that's definetly not the case for me. I think she is stunning , no doubt but she sure is not the MOST beautiful caz there is no such thing as most beautiful. Every human being has their flaws and so does she!
I do not like her caz of all the personal affairs in her life, she USES people and that's a fact. More than the fact that she uses people, i hate the fact that she portrays this 'Sati savitri" image of herself, as she did no wrong to anyone.
She has done bad to many people , Viveek being on top of the list. She started dating him when he was giving back to back HITs and was on top, she left him through text message after she found "Bachchan" tag! And plzzzzz, her fans can't blame Vivek admitting the relationship in the public. she didn't have guts to acknoledge it since it would ruin her PERFECT image. She likes to do stuff behind the doors , and keep clean chit for audience as if we are dumb enough to buy her act.
And all these things that she made it on her own is Biaaaasee, she USED Salman, NO DOUBT, and now using bachchan tag!

No doubt that everyone has their flaws but to hate on someone because of their media-concocted shortcomings is rather naive, in my opinion. For starters, you don't know for certain she uses people. It's an assumption. A rather baseless one at that. At the time that Vivek recieved accolades for Saathiya, Aishwarya was considered one of the leading ladies in Bollywood, what with Devdas releasing earlier in the year. What back-to-back hits are you referring to? Company was a multi-starrer film, as was Road from what I recall. To solely give Vivek the credit is rather unfair as Ajay Devgan and Manoj Bajpai did rather well in their respective roles.
This "sati savitri" image you talk of is rather ironic considering the media loves to bash her. For every article glorifying her that you can provide, I can give you at least 5, if not more, that outright bash her. She maintains a dignified silence on the subject and that is somehow interpreted as her acting holier than thou. It almost seems as if her detractors are merely looking for a reason to dislike her.

It's acknowledged by many articles that Abhishek and Aishwarya didn't start dating until after Umrao Jaan hit the theatres - they cite Abhishek of saying so. As far as I'm aware, the Aishwarya-Vivek alliance was over long before that, sometime in 2005 - correct me if I'm wrong. In addition, if the tabloids are to be believed, he apparently dumped some girl named Gurpreet for Aishwarya but you conveniently forgot to mention that. Are you not trying to white-wash Vivek's flaws to make Aishwarya look like, for a lack of better term, the villain? Obviously, each and every one of them has skeletons in their closet so to bash one for her dirty linen is rather unfair when you turn a blind eye to the other's dirty laundry.
If she doesn't want to acknowledge her relationship with Vivek - I don't see what's so wrong in that. Perhaps she didn't feel comfortable or had some other reason she feels the media doesn't need to know. Perhaps, it wasn't as big a deal for her as it was for Vivek - perhaps his attachment was greater than hers. Either way, it's not her responsibility to keep the media privy to every detail of her life.
Accept it or not, she did make it on her own. Coming from a non-filmi background, she's come a long way from the days she wanted to be an architect. How exactly did she "use" Salman? One would thik that if she was indeed using Salman, as you so eloquently put it, she'd be acting with him more often but guess what? They only acted in one or two odd movies - the most prominent being Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. It isn't 17th-18th century England where women need to rely on men to climb the rungs of a social ladder so you might want to update the calendar😛. As for using the Bachchan tag, might I remind you that she is far more popular in the West than the whole clan combined. For a moment, stop trying to justify your dislike and look at it from an objective point of view. It may turn out that she isn't nearly as bad as you paint her to be.
Edited by ShadowKisses - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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^^^ you can give all reasons you want, but it still doesn't change the vibe i get from her. It just the way it is.
I don't care she dated, don't care she left people or not..but i def do not like the "act" she put in front of the media and people.
As for being so famous in West, Plzz just caz few flop directors and producers start casting her, it doesnt make her Angelina Jolie. She is famous, but in india media..her image was tarnished after all the flop movies and relationships. Marrying Bachchan has definetly helped her!
Before she got together with Abhi, she had only two hits ..HDDCS (thanks to Salman) and devdas . She was giving series of flops after that! Until guru and Dhoom came to her rescue. So people need to stop making it look like she made a career on her own. Ya may be the modeling career and flop hollywood career but for the bollywood career ..she definetly got all the help from her ex and current bues!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: piya_y116

^^^ you can give all reasons you want, but it still doesn't change the vibe i get from her. It just the way it is.

I don't care she dated, don't care she left people or not..but i def do not like the "act" she put in front of the media and people.
As for being so famous in West, Plzz just caz few flop directors and producers start casting her, it doesnt make her Angelina Jolie. She is famous, but in india media..her image was tarnished after all the flop movies and relationships. Marrying Bachchan has definetly helped her!
Before she got together with Abhi, she had only two hits ..HDDCS (thanks to Salman) and devdas . She was giving series of flops after that! Until guru and Dhoom came to her rescue. So people need to stop making it look like she made a career on her own. Ya may be the modeling career and flop hollywood career but for the bollywood career ..she definetly got all the help from her ex and current bues!

I wasn't trying to change your opinion. Merely giving you an opposite perspective. Now, if you chose to gather some wisdom from it, none of my business.
How is maintaining silence putting an "act" for the media? If she speaks, she's bad. If she doesn't, she's bad. It's a double-edged sword.
Y'know, she is famous in the West. Not as much as Jolie but compared to many of the other actors working in Bollywood, she is. Will Smith and Daniel Radcliffe citing her as their favourite actress clearly shows that. She refused at least two movies with Will Smith - THE most bankable star in Hollywood, if the overwhelming success of his mediocre Hancock is anything to go by. If that doesn't show her popularity, then I rest my case for the sake of my sanity. And these offers had absolutely nothing to do with the Bachchans. Perhaps her image - or rather, the way she is portrayed - in the indian media has improved after her marriage but what does that show about Aishwarya? It only demonstrates the cheap thinking of the media personel who praise married actresses (Karishma, for example, was officially renamed "Saint Karishma" after her marriage) and degrade unmarried ones (ex. Deepika is newest gold-digger in town or something to that effect).
She DID make her career even if you chose to disregard it. The actresses who started their career at nearly the same time as her aren't getting prominent roles wheras she still gets some of the best roles. Not to mention that she's labelled as 'plastic' and 'ice maiden' but till date, she has worked with some of the best directors, endorsed some great products and been the brand ambassador for international brands. That in and of itself is a huge achievement in an industry that treats women with the shorter end of the stick.
HDDCS was a success due to the multi-starrer cast and the SLB production house which was considered very prestigious at the time. To give Salman the entire credit for its success is incredulous at best. Merely because none of her films were classified "hits" is no reason to claim she was unsuccessful. Between the duration of HDDCS and Dhoom, she did churn out strong performances in Taal (which was definitely a hit), Raincoat, Choker Bali, Kandukondain Kandukondain, HDAPH (if the FF nomination is anything to go by) and Umrao Jaan. Funny how you forgot to mention those.
Regarding the italics - If you are going to make a claim, you should at least support it. It's rather baseless to say she got "support from her ex and current beaus" when you have absolutely no facts to back that claim.
Edited by ShadowKisses - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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For an actor who was branded as wooden, plastic, expression less and criticized for fluttering eyelashes and giggles, she has come a long way. She worked with the best directors, best actors, always endorsed best products, became brand ambassadors for biggest labels still maintaining herself with dignity. She single handedly created her position in the industry.
Most actors who started before or with her are already fading but she is still going strong and competing with the youngest lot vying for the same roles. Now that is an achievement for any female actor in Bollywood where male chauvinism and hypocrisy is rampant.
At the release of Jodha-Akbar, Hrithik said that it is easy for an actor with average looks to get immediate appreciation but when someone is as stunning as Aishwarya, people scrutinize more. Somewhere in mind it is stuck that pretty faces can't act, just like the dumb blonde stereotype. Only when someone removes make-up and applies grease on face do we take them seriously.😆
Anyways, Go Rai! She will always be etched in everyone's mind just like diva Rekha.

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