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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Cruiser-


That makes him a far better ACTOR than Shri Gaurav Chopra Ji who promised, he will be ACTING when in BB House but eventually turned out to be a damp squib and no match to ACTING prowess of Manveer! 😆



@bold: 👏👏👏

Thats the real problem i guess. First, how can a gaon ka ganwar and so-called 'lukkha' managed to win. Second, OMG, he was acting as well. Ye to double defeat ho gayi 🤣

He should start acting classes. Gaurav and VIndu will be the first to enroll. 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It's not about that... It's about the fact that CON ARTIST manveer n sly bb worked together to write this script n present manveer as a simpleton gaon Ka chora when Infact he was anything but that... Both manveer n bb fooled audiences.
And how much drama manveer did for cutting his beard, then in the end bb praising him for cutting his beard to save Manu, when Infact manveer had been without the beard pre bb too...

This news just exposes what a big con artist manveer turned out to be ... And fake bb helped him along with scripted storyline ... 🤢
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It's not about his marriage also, but if the dude has a five year old kid and he is denying it then laanat hai Manveer pe...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Cruiser-



So bottom-line is if you hold a marriage certificate or have taken 7 Pheras around the holy fire or said Qubool-Qubool-Qubool in front of Maulvi Saab or I do-I do-I do in front of Holy Priest, you better watch out your ass and stay well behaved!

As long as you are NOT MARRIED...have a ball, we respect your private life!

WHY?

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2 Cents!


2 Words!

Salman Khan!

All his dalliances are forgiven (by his fans) cos he's not married. And then there's poor Shiney Ahuja!...

Not saying you are wrong... but ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd

It's not about his marriage also, but if the dude has a five year old kid and he is denying it then laanat hai Manveer pe...

as of now nothing is clear. Some say he ran off from marriage and his younger brother had to marry the lady...
...

My limited point is will journalists also scour out who all in house is lying about his / her past relationships, why they did not work out and their respective faults? Obviously no.Why? Because in our society whatever Salman does to his girlfriends is acceptable because he is not officially married. But if it comes out a Kejriwal or a Priyanka Gandhi cheated on their spouses it will be news of Tsunami.proportions. All because they are married. Come to think of it in both cases, a person is cheating upon his partner.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Cruiser-

as of now nothing is clear. Some say he ran off from marriage and his younger brother had to marry the lady...

...

My limited point is will journalists also scour out who all in house is lying about his / her past relationships, why they did not work out and their respective faults? Obviously no.Why? Because in our society whatever Salman does to his girlfriends is acceptable because he is not officially married. But if it comes out a Kejriwal or a Priyanka Gandhi cheated on their spouses it will be news of Tsunami.proportions. All because they are married. Come to think of it in both cases, a person is cheating upon his partner.


Cruiser, marriage is a legal contract of trust. Theoretically, marriage is a mutual unforced decision usually with social approval. So if one cheats, it is a legal crime. Today, if one lives in with another, that is also considered the equivalent of marriage, isn't it? Ofcourse the latter is still suspect in many eyes, but still, it legally carries weight today. Still, to live in comes with its elements of risk to both partners including abandonment and social acrimony.

I am not justifying Salman's abusive behaviour if any in his youth, but that was girlfriend zone and no woman was bound by a contract to suffer (they don't need to suffer abuse within marriage either)- they attached themselves to him because being Salman's gf came with its own perks. Why else would a woman befriend a famous man known to be abusive- falling into the trap of hopes of transforming him? Naturally, both man to larger extent and woman to smaller extent are to blame in these cases imho.

Now, about journalists who have not scoured the relationships of others within. As I said on the other thread, nobody inside the house made an effort to create an image of being this 'bhola-bhala' stereotype. Nobody except Manveer.

Gaurav's past relationships are out in the media with intricate details, Rohan has a gf now and whatever his past, his current status eliminates his past follies if any as in Salman's case- if his woman can accept him, what more say do we have? (I know Rohan has a clean image pre-Kanchi as well). Rahul and Karan, both have clean married family images. Manu came with the committed image and whatever flirtations he may have indulged in, it was nipped in the bud after his brief exit and he never did project himself as in the market. Aur raha the intelligent but hyper Navin- the genuinely single guy who never got an opportunity to explore the single and ready to mingle facet on the show.

Now, Manveer, from his dressing to obsessions with his hair to his conversations, atleast BB's editing made him out to be single. Atleast Manveer's mumblings towards Nitibha created that impression and that was not BB's doing. Naturally, that is the perception we gathered and the journalists too I suppose.

We live in a social environment where married/divorced/separated men are usually considered less attractive (especially among the non-metro population) to the female population- the howler category, I mean. Naturally, all the acclaimed pappis and jhappis he sought and garnered during this period was atleast partially derivative of this image. Remember Manu during the mall task saying, 'Hello, mei bhi aadmi hoon'? He had to seek votes from young girls (tough that it was with his Piku status) unlike Manveer who carried the single image, which surely helped him garner votes finally as well.

Ofcourse the entire winning stands subject to suspicion if number of votes alone is the criteria. Still we can surely say that if Manveer came in forcefully as a divorcee or separated or run-away post-marriage, he would have found it tough to gain popularity with the masses as well and young girls. That is deliberate concealment for known benefits and if he can do so for the sake of a game and money, why blame journalists for their bread and butter?

And as earlier, I repeat, if there's a child involved in all of this, then this sentiment of mine is augmented several multiple times and it then goes beyond mere deception.



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Posted: 8 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Uma2010


Cruiser, marriage is a legal contract of trust. Theoretically, marriage is a mutual unforced decision usually with social approval. So if one cheats, it is a legal crime. Today, if one lives in with another, that is also considered the equivalent of marriage, isn't it? Ofcourse the latter is still suspect in many eyes, but still, it legally carries weight today. Still, to live in comes with its elements of risk to both partners including abandonment and social acrimony.

I am not justifying Salman's abusive behaviour if any in his youth, but that was girlfriend zone and no woman was bound by a contract to suffer (they don't need to suffer abuse within marriage either)- they attached themselves to him because being Salman's gf came with its own perks. Why else would a woman befriend a famous man known to be abusive- falling into the trap of hopes of transforming him? Naturally, both man to larger extent and woman to smaller extent are to blame in these cases imho.

Now, about journalists who have not scoured the relationships of others within. As I said on the other thread, nobody inside the house made an effort to create an image of being this 'bhola-bhala' stereotype. Nobody except Manveer.

Gaurav's past relationships are out in the media with intricate details, Rohan has a gf now and whatever his past, his current status eliminates his past follies if any as in Salman's case- if his woman can accept him, what more say do we have? (I know Rohan has a clean image pre-Kanchi as well). Rahul and Karan, both have clean married family images. Manu came with the committed image and whatever flirtations he may have indulged in, it was nipped in the bud after his brief exit and he never did project himself as in the market. Aur raha the intelligent but hyper Navin- the genuinely single guy who never got an opportunity to explore the single and ready to mingle facet on the show.

Now, Manveer, from his dressing to obsessions with his hair to his conversations, atleast BB's editing made him out to be single. Atleast Manveer's mumblings towards Nitibha created that impression and that was not BB's doing. Naturally, that is the perception we gathered and the journalists too I suppose.

We live in a social environment where married/divorced/separated men are usually considered less attractive (especially among the non-metro population) to the female population- the howler category, I mean. Naturally, all the acclaimed pappis and jhappis he sought and garnered during this period was atleast partially derivative of this image. Remember Manu during the mall task saying, 'Hello, mei bhi aadmi hoon'? He had to seek votes from young girls (tough that it was with his Piku status) unlike Manveer who carried the single image, which surely helped him garner votes finally as well.

Ofcourse the entire winning stands subject to suspicion if number of votes alone is the criteria. Still we can surely say that if Manveer came in forcefully as a divorcee or separated or run-away post-marriage, he would have found it tough to gain popularity with the masses as well and young girls. That is deliberate concealment for known benefits and if he can do so for the sake of a game and money, why blame journalists for their bread and butter?

And as earlier, I repeat, if there's a child involved in all of this, then this sentiment of mine is augmented several multiple times and it then goes beyond mere deception.



Uma I fully understand each and every point you made and infact it's a brilliant articulation of your reasoning and viewpoint.

There are two things here. Number one, there is a reason why past of a contestant is not and should not be raked up and he / she is required to be judged based on his or her conduct during the show.

Taking extreme examples imagine Lopa was in love with a guy...another much more richer guy came in her life and she mercilessly ditches the first sincere, loving albeit poor guy...THIS IS JUST FOR EXAMPLE...how would it be any less bad then a Manveer running away from his marriage (assuming he ran away that is?).

Media can not and will not dig out the truths of all relationships and conducts. Assuming Manveer ran off from his wife and media dug it out...so it would be just Manveer's bad luck. How do we know what all others in house have done in their various relationships?😲

I agree with you amongst Indian fans factor of married and taken works to the disadvantage of married one. Mercifully, now all married male actors are well accepted by fans but same can not be said for married female actors and that's a shame really...😊




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Cruiser ji the debate is not about Manveer is married or not married it's about him portraying a bhola bhala sachai ka devta seedha sada commoner who was shown as representing all Indians. How can he represent India?????
You mean to say this is small thing he can have liberty to lie on this!!!!!!!
For Indians marriage is Pious relation and we all believe strongly in the institution of marriage. A person like Manveer didn't inspire anyone in positive way. His ways were more of rowdy goony and uncivilized type which is not alike Indian culture.
On top he was trying to have affair with nitibha what about that and many times he tried on lopa too. What message he gave it's ok to hide your marriage to become famous????????
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheebri

Cruiser ji the debate is not about Manveer is married or not married it's about him portraying a bhola bhala sachai ka devta seedha sada commoner who was shown as representing all Indians. How can he represent India?????

You mean to say this is small thing he can have liberty to lie on this!!!!!!!
For Indians marriage is Pious relation and we all believe strongly in the institution of marriage. A person like Manveer didn't inspire anyone in positive way. His ways were more of rowdy goony and uncivilized type which is not alike Indian culture.
On top he was trying to have affair with nitibha what about that and many times he tried on lopa too. What message he gave it's ok to hide your marriage to become famous????????

I don't even know why many found him attractive and likeable. I never liked him one bit.
My only point is we do not and can not know how all others on house have been with their partners in life. Some could be lot worse than this guy too. Who knows? That's all.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Extremely well written Uma..👏

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