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Posted: 11 years ago
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it is very unreliable to use internet nowadays,

the people you are sending mails to CRUISER JI
might just be Nigerian prince...

rather personally try to fix appointment with Yogeshwar Dutt or Sushil,
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: milindms

it is very unreliable to use internet nowadays,

the people you are sending mails to CRUISER JI
might just be Nigerian prince...

rather personally try to fix appointment with Yogeshwar Dutt or Sushil,



Thats pretty pointless milindms JI

Even if I meet Yogeshwar or Sushil when in Delhi next time, trolls won't take my word as truth, right?

You very well know what I am saying is 100% true, Sangram has nothing to do with any Medal for India, just forget Commonwealth Wrestling Gold Medal! 😊


http://postimg.org/image/4mgobsoz7/

Keep posting Yogeshwar raag!

And keep praying some News House doesn't latch onto this story! Sangu will become Nangu then. Best advise you can give to Payal is TWEET her to remove that outrageous claim from Sangu website! 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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aisa hota hai kya, you disprespect a guy who represented India at such high levels

just by sending and receiving few emails...

thank god you are accepting your fault for saying sangram never represented India...

Just think about what it needs to represent India in International tornos... sangram must have achieved something HUGE to be a part of the team? or they just take a guy who was a arthritis patient and send him to south africa. HAVE MERCY




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Posted: 11 years ago
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The first google search about "Sangram Singh" shows a photograph of him dressed in a costume and the words "Sangram Singh" on the image. Somewhat like a character from those phony "professional wrestling" "federations" like WWE, TNA etc. Wikipedia entry says his real name is "Sanjit Kumar".

So, that's fine, he is a wrestler who has a "professional name "of Sangram Singh, so what?

Next I go to his official website, sangramsingh.com. In the awards page, following achievements are mentioned, and I'll elaborate on each one of them.

http://www.sangramsingh.com/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=48 &Itemid=64

1) World Best Professional Wrestler awarded by world professional wrestling federation in 2012.

Google search "world professional wrestling federation" yields NO OTHER results apart from a few mentioning "Sangram Singh". So what is this "world professional wrestling federation"?

Some further research yields that the character "Sangram Singh" is actually from "World Wrestling Professionals" or "WWP" is a South African wrestling "promotion". Their official website has his mention. The website promotes him as "One of the greatest Indian wrestlers in history"! It is also mentioned that he was awarded "World's best wrestler" in 2011. So it may be that WWP was wrongfully mentioned as "world professional wrestling federation" and 2011 as 2012 on Sangram's official website.

http://www.wwp.co.za/main/wwp-superstars/sangram-singh/

But this is not some sporting body. This is just an entertainment company like WWE. They have people play fictitious characters and fight.

eg: "Undertaker" (WWE) is a character played by "Mark William Calaway" with a backstory that he had his soul in a bottle and whatnot.

Similarly, Yokozuna in WWE was a character played by American "Rodney Agatupu Anoai" who was portrayed as a Japanese Sumo wrestler who was a "Yokozuna". "Yokozuna" happens to be the highest rank in Sumo Wrestling. But the truth is that Rodney was not even a Sumo wrestler, let alone a Yokozuna. It was just a character he played.

So I am guessing the same about Sangram Singh, that he is just an image created by WWP with a backstory of a wrestler from India.

Now coming on to the next achievement mentioned:

2) Gold Medal in commonwealth wrestling championship 2006

This one is a no-brainer. Commonwealth Wrestling Championships are held bi-annually. BUT, they happen in "odd" years, ie, 2005, 2007, 2009 etc. So there was NO commonwealth wrestling championship in 2006. They deliberately chose the year 2006.

I can understand about the previous point, but this is strange that they have mentioned a "TOTAL LIE" on his official website.

3) Held position among Top Ten Wrestler in the world in Senior World Wrestling Championship in Budapest, Hungary (2005)

I couldn't search a reference for this anywhere. He hasn't mentioned about any medals, so I guess he may have been a participant. Cleverly mentioned as among "top ten wrestlers". I'll give him a benefit of doubt.

So, I guess that he might have been an actual "wrestler" at some point in time, circa 2005 but not a noteworthy one.

4) John Ritz Big Five International Tournament in Johannesburg

Google search "John Ritz Big Five International Tournament in Johannesburg" -Sangram, yields ZERO results. The only reference to this are with Sangram's name.

Further research yields that there is a "Johnnie Reitz Big-5" open tournament in SA. It is organised by some club and is an open tournament. So he may have participated in that tournament and won a medal.

5) President Award - 2006

This one is too vague. I mean what "President award"?

Google search "President Award Sanjit" yields three results, his official website, his official facebook page and a webpage referencing his official website.

So I guess this one is a lie too. But since "President Award" is a very vague name, given that India has hundreds of thousands of sports societies (some even registered in slums, infact any one a register a sports society just like a company), may be that some obscure society did award him that. But there is no reference.

6) Chhtrapati Shivaji Award for Best Indian Sportsperson 2012

Exact same explanation as the previous point. Giving him a benefit of doubt, maybe some obscure outfit did award him that.

7) Rajiv Gandhi Award

Again, same explanation as the previous point. There is a "Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna", but he was obviously never awarded that.

8) Sr. National champion (2003)

No reference. I am giving him a benefit of doubt as he may have been an actual wrestler at that time taking part in state level/national level etc.

9) Won Medal at All Indian Police Games, New Delhi (2005)

No reference apart from his official website. Some places have mentioned that he was employed by Delhi Police. This yielded an interesting piece of news:

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/jan/929613.htm

It mentions some "Sanjit Kumar Dangi". It meniones about him winning a medal in South Africa and being a 5 times Delhi champion, so I am sure it's talking about Sangram.

It mentions about the "beach wrestling", which again is not real wrestling but "professional wrestling" like WWE.

So I guess, while in the police department, he was taking part in those money making competitions without authorisation, and was sacked.

I am not agains him personally, but this is against the traditional pehlwani ethics of India. If he was participating in such tournaments, it is almost for sure that he is not regarded well in the actual India wrestling circuit. Hence no mention anywhere.

10) Unbeaten Champion of Delhi Wrestling Championship from 2002 to 08

Covered in the previous point.

11) RAJIV GANDHI RASHTRIYA EKTA SAMMAAN - 2010

No reference other that his official website.

Some research and it turns up that there are MANY NGOs and societies which use this name for an "award". So it could have been some obscure outfit. He became "Sangram Singh" in 2010, so may have been a PR exercise.

12) Won "Sher-e-Hind" title in 2008

Again no reference. And this title too is awarded by many wrestling "societies". So again, may have been some obscure one.

13) No reference apart from his official page. No reference to who awards this title. May have been awarded by local akhadas in some "melas".

14) Won Crown Award by Youth Association India and International Body Building (2010)

No reference. There are zillions of youth associations in India. Again, could have been a PR exercise for the TV show in 2010.

15) Mr Haryana 2009

He was not amongst the "official" winners organised by the Body Building Federation. Might have been some obscure outfit. Anyone who knows about bodybuilding can tell that he stands no chance even in a district level contest. Not because he is out of shape, but he doesn't have the actual "bodybuilder's" body.

So why the lies?

My conclusion is that Sanjit Kumar Dangi trained in an akhada in his youth like tens of thousands in Haryana. Got a job in Delhi Police through sports quota. But wanted to make big bucks so started the gimmicky "professional wrestling". Was sacked by Delhi Police. Then finally managed to join WWP who created the "Sangram Singh" character.

Then some PR agencies created his host of "achievements" and started projected him in media as some great Indian wrestler. He became a regular feature in reality shows and Bigg Boss is no exception.

I am even starting to doubt that his "wheelchair" stories may also be fake, part of his "Sangram Singh" character and not actual Sanjit Kumar.

The point is not to undermine his ability as a wrestler. But to point out that his whole persona is built upon lies and imagination and is just a character. And he is not being projected as "professional wrestler" (proffessional wrestl
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Posted: 11 years ago
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For all those that are saying it was an honor to see an Olympian in BB, and watching Sangram- do any of you remember watching him participate in these prestigious games?
How can you be a fan of a person whose achievement you have only heard of rather than seen?
Are you sure you are not his PR agent?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't get it. Why are you guys trying to base your claims on your 'investigations' (read search) about Sangram on internet? This is absurd. Though most of the organizations have been digitized, there are still some which do not put their records online. So, how true are your claims anyways? Sangram might not yield satisfactory searches to please you people, but maybe when he comes out of the house, his certificates might shut your guys' mouths.

It is so stupid and amusing how low people can go to malign someone's image. And, FYI, just getting responses via email does not guarantee any truth. Twitter accounts, email ids might not be verified. Most of the government offices in India are not that tech savy. So, you never know the person who replied to your mails or tweets was even the reliable one or not.

I have also participated in many sports competition on national level, but there are no details regarding it online. So, does that mean I never participate in such event just because some people can not find details regarding that online? I have my certificates to prove that and I am very sure Sangram might also have his.

It is okay to have opinions but do not stoop so low. You do not have to like Sangram but questioning his credentials is absurd. 🤢

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: desighal

For all those that are saying it was an honor to see an Olympian in BB, and watching Sangram- do any of you remember watching him participate in these prestigious games?

How can you be a fan of a person whose achievement you have only heard of rather than seen?
Are you sure you are not his PR agent?



actually i have seen one of his wrestling videos (NOT professional wrestling, south africa) and also i have proof of him representing India... it is on the official website of wrestling federation of India.

well I want to say to u, indian people or India don't give wrestling any attention, hence very less articles you would come across online
u have to win atleast an olympic medal to come in the news and get the fame as a wrestler, that is the truth.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: udi1223

I don't get it. Why are you guys trying to base your claims on your 'investigations' (read search) about Sangram on internet? This is absurd. Though most of the organizations have been digitized, there are still some which do not put their records online. So, how true are your claims anyways? Sangram might not yield satisfactory searches to please you people, but maybe when he comes out of the house, his certificates might shut your guys' mouths.

It is so stupid and amusing how low people can go to malign someone's image. And, FYI, just getting responses via email does not guarantee any truth. Twitter accounts, email ids might not be verified. Most of the government offices in India are not that tech savy. So, you never know the person who replied to your mails or tweets was even the reliable one or not.

I have also participated in many sports competition on national level, but there are no details regarding it online. So, does that mean I never participate in such event just because some people can not find details regarding that online? I have my certificates to prove that and I am very sure Sangram might also have his.

It is okay to have opinions but do not stoop so low. You do not have to like Sangram but questioning his credentials is absurd. 🤢



TRUE and I feel really sad...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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now i m confused infact i was also suprised to see the olympic winner in BB did he came to prove sangram;s claim or is sangram a fakester as cruiser has mentioned in earlier post...common BB u should clarify it its not done if sangram has won all those title i want him to win BB he must be national hero then if not he should be thrown out of the house
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guess what even Google is failure to answer about him that he is Gold Medalist.

But thank god, we have milinddms here to prove and provide us some source.

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