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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: spkurmind



Have you heard of " Be a Man"? Its only matter of different language.

Does the use of Language sober up the statement?

Does women think their place is in dustbin? Or is an insult to be a women? They why bother if someone uses this statement?


When a woman is asked to act like one in a patronizing tone, the implied meaning comprises among other things, inferiority and weakness as compared to males. No one takes well to be looked down upon or belittled.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: spkurmind



Have you heard of " Be a Man"? Its only matter of different language.

Does the use of Language sober up the statement?

Does women think their place is in dustbin? Or is an insult to be a women? They why bother if someone uses this statement?






The connotation for "Be a Man" is positive whereas the other statement the connotation is to demean a woman and as I said to supposedly put her in her place.

Also I hate to make this into a man-woman issue, but unfortunately it is sad to see the difference of attitude of some of the HMs towards Armaan and Gauhar for being very vocal. Armaan when he loses it does not have control over his words, though I am not condoning Guahar, but she does control her language. Yet Armaan is looked upon by the HMs (some of dem at least) as the big brother or benevolent patriarch who deserves to be respected, whereas Gauhar is seen as a despo and manipulative person.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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By reading some of posts here, it seems the way in which Arman said "Aurat ho, aurat ki tarah raho" was really offensive - though I did not watch it myself. However, in BB, I have more often seen the same problem the other way round. Some women participants talk very rudely with others. They scream at, rebuke and make insulting comments. But if any man replies back in kind, their answer is "Learn to respect a woman."
Similarly "Be a man" is not always used in positive sense. Often this is used to mean that "Men should take up more of hard works. In any fight between a man and a woman, the man should apologize even if the woman is at greater fault." In BB, you will easily see that when a man and a woman contestants fight with each other and, even if both are at fault, people tell the man "Say sorry to her."

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Armaan said - aurat ho aurat ki tarah raho, aadmi ke sarke upar chadne ki koshish mat karo.armaan is a male chauvinist pig.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: spkurmind

My point is we believe every individual is alike and they should not imitate others. Similarly Women should behave as Women and not try to imitate Men and it also goes with Men that they should behave like Men.

We MEN in India have been raised to behave like MEN and take up our responsibilities right from childhood, for education, career, marriage, children etc.

Why at the same time if we expect Women to behave like Women a big problem?
In earlier days way centuries back Women were much more independent and lived up in true sense being Women. But today the definition of independence and liberation has been so miserably changed that Women have lost there focus of existence. Hardly 5% of Women today are in true sense independent.

This are my views and people are free to give theirs. But don't dare try to change mine.

what does behaving like a women or men means? when a men cries people say "be a man" dont cry like women why? crying is the most natural emotion and everyone is free to do so...similarly if a women flirts or gets angry or gets aggressive or talks loudly she is told to behave like a women ...why? do men have their copyrights on "anger " "aggresion" "flirting"...men in india are brought up to be a man and women to be a women they are not brought up to be a human being ...giving gali is ok for man but if a women does so she has a bad upbringing ,if a man speaks loudly then he showing off his mardangi but if a women speaks loudly then she does not know how to behave ,if a man flirts he is being a man and if a women flirts then she is characterless...thats the problem with that extremely gender biased statement...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

By reading some of posts here, it seems the way in which Arman said "Aurat ho, aurat ki tarah raho" was really offensive - though I did not watch it myself. However, in BB, I have more often seen the same problem the other way round. Some women participants talk very rudely with others. They scream at, rebuke and make insulting comments. But if any man replies back in kind, their answer is "Learn to respect a woman."

No one is condoning that. I am not in favor of being given any special respect only on account of my gender. It needs to be earned. That is what irks me in the stereotypical gentlemanliness and old world chivalry. On romantic dates, men are expected to pay bills etc. Really unfair.
But in the context of Arman's statement, just because some women play gender card unfairly doesn't give him license to berate and talk loosely about all womankind.

Similarly "Be a man" is not always used in positive sense. Often this is used to mean that "Men should take up more of hard works. In any fight between a man and a woman, the man should apologize even if the woman is at greater fault." In BB, you will easily see that when a man and a woman contestants fight with each other and, even if both are at fault, people tell the man "Say sorry to her."

I haven't watched any such instance where someone who is at a greater fault has been said sorry to only on account of being a woman šŸ˜• Are we watching the same show?
People usually ask that person to initiate truce who seems to be the more understanding and mature of the two sparring opponents, be it a man or a woman.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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[quote=Riyasi]But in the context of Arman's statement, just because some women play gender card unfairly doesn't give him license to berate and talk loosely about all womankind.[/quote]

I already said in my very first sentence in my previous message that the manner in which Arman said that was really offensive. I used the words "it seems" because I am not watching this season. I was live feed only once and that too for less than 10 minutes. Barring that, I am watching neither any episode nor live-feed. But I like reading messages in this forum.

[quote=Riyaasi] I haven't watched any such instance where someone who is at a greater fault has been said sorry to only on account of being a woman šŸ˜• Are we watching the same show?
People usually ask that person to initiate truce who seems to be the more understanding and mature of the two sparring opponents, be it a man or a woman. [/quote]
As I wrote above, I cannot be sure about this season and also I cannot be sure about the previous season because I watched first 6 episodes of the previous season. I did not watch any other episode and I did not watch live feed of the previous season even for a minute.
But, what I have written, has happened in earlier seasons.

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