Accents and Inclusiveness - Your own experience

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Posted: 11 years ago
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English and Hindi are two languages that continue to thrive due to their inclusive nature. Every year both the languages adopt so many words from daily life, other languages and even current events that keeps them alive, growing and relevant. Due to various factors English has become the global lingua franca. People of all nations and walks of life speak in the language - and naturally carry the intonations of their own local language into the way they speak in English.

The way a Korean, African, Afghan, Chinese, European, British, Scottish or American person would say "Is there a spare cup for tea" would be totally different. In such an atmosphere to mock someone for their inability to express themselves in a language they are totally unfamiliar with (Eli and her usage of Hindi) or the way they speak the language as it is spoken in their own country (Asif and his English) would be totally wrong.

Here I would like people on the forum to share their own experiences on how they were either humiliated or corrected in the way they express themselves in a language.

I would love to hear your opinions on the usage of language and whether it is right or wrong to mock people thus or not, but primarily this would be a platform for people to share their own experiences or a funny incident they were witness to.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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It should ideally be wrong to mock people on their accents.😊..But I must confess, I have mocked or rather mimicked Pranab Mukherjee's English and Hindi several times in my school days...😆 But then I was a kid, so I think I deserve a mercy...😆
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I was 18 and had moved from a Govt. school to a posh college. A lecturer used the word "enterpreneur" and pronounced it as "onthropraner" - I was taking notes and she sarcastically asked if I wanted to know how to spell the word, I said yes. So she started to spell it out, and soon as she said "ent..." I said I know the word. And she was like - how did you pronounce it and I said the way it is written of course. The entire class was laughing at me and then I was like I didn't know one had to learn French before sitting in an English class, the least English could do was teach their language in English instead of French.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Interesting question! In my experience I find this over-emphasis on accents to be a surprisingly accepted of discrimination. Frankly this happens everywhere- schools, colleges, universities etc. And the funny part it happens more in non-English speaking countries. I have spend years interacting with Americans and Europeans and they dont usually discriminate or make fun of people's accents. But in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh- this is a huge issue! And more often than not, people making fun dont have great accents themselves. If I take Bollywood for example, no one other than PC speaks English with a proper American accent but should we really judge them by it?

Is judging someone by their accent any better than judging them for their color, religion or sexual preference? In a society where discrimination is such a problem- where 85% dont even know how to speak English, making fun of someone's accent is very rich.

Coming to Ellie, I just want all the contestants to try and speak her native language and not butcher it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I was embarrassed by shopkeeper in another state 4-5 years ago. I am from Bihar and as soon as i started speaking he said you are from bihar and started laughing. 😆

And one more hilarious experience, dont know its relevant here or not But a Dhaba owner was of chinese origin and the hindi was like that, after that 2 people came and asked for dosa. After eating one person was telling other that Dosa is a chinese food. 🤣

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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post purva-again:)
bt i wont share here my experience tht i had in india-when we visited there 4 yrs bk wit family:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok this is the first joke I heard about wrong pronunciations. For a long time this was my top joke to break ice with strangers.

There's a school inspection going on. So the Inspector enters a class where a SchoolMaster is teaching a class of boys. The Inspector asks what are you teaching and the Master says English. So the Inspector writes a word on the board and asks a boy to get up and read what's written.

The boy gets up very confidently and says in a loud voice - "Natoore"

The Inspector asks another boy to read, and he too says - "Natoore". Third, Fourth, Fifth boys - "Natoore". At the end of 10 minutes the entire class is standing up.

The School Inspector is very angry, the Master by now is in tears, and the School Headmaster is a very worried man. He comes to the Inspector and whispers very softly - "Sir ab to bata dijiye, sahi kya hai, nahi to in sab ka Fatoore kharaab ho jayega"


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Purva-

The entire class was laughing at me and then I was like I didn't know one had to learn French before sitting in an English class, the least English could do was teach their language in English instead of French.


English is a stolen language. It has many roots due to the invasion of English. The Vikings, Romans, French and the Anglo Saxon. After their personal invasion they build their empire and adopting worlds from around the world, even Hindi and Sanskrit.

But back to your topic, as a joke my siblings and I often tease my Mum as she often can't pronounce certain words. The word escalator turns into exhilarator. Or my uncle who turns Buffalo into boo-fa-lo. However, that is us just teasing them. I wouldn't mock ones accent. Pronanations is what forms accents.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I highly recommend the read The Mother Tongue to those who are interested in the development of English as we know it today.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Mother-Tongue-English-That/dp/0380715430

This is a funny, humorous book with tons of knowledge and anecdotes about English. Like me you will be surprised at how English has evolved in uncanny ways. And pronunciations, spellings, grammatical rules aren't there because they are right. They just happened to come about because some influential people or populations preferred it that way. Back in the day you have some great minds writing journals and letters creatively using a dozen different spellings for the same word in the same document. Sow next tyme u right "I vent to skool" Don't bee two hard on yourself.

And yes that is coming from one major Nazi Grammar Bitch! To illustrate that. I was in kindergarten. I came home one day furious and fuming that my teacher was incapable of teaching me. She was pronouncing Teddy Bear as Teddy Beer. 😆

Sometimes you don't appreciate how other people cope with language barriers unless you experience it yourself. When I went to Brazil with my MBA class, I didn't speak a word of Portuguese. We struggled even placing a simple order at McDonalds. But the citizens were pleasant, smiling and helpful. Of course they giggled and laughed at us, but not one was impatient, belligerent or rude that we didn't speak their language or were holding up the line. After the trip my white American classmates said that they had a whole new appreciation and respect for Hispanics who migrate to USA and don't speak the language.

So the next time you meet someone who doesn't speak well and makes mistakes - of course correct them and help them get better. BUT be respectful that they come from a different background and appreciate their efforts to communicate.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Interesting topic, Purva!
I lived in many countries and as a result my accent is never quite native to the place, which gives rise to a lot of speculation to where I'm really from.

However, when I was much younger, I had the classic Indian habit of pronouncing my V and W interchangeably (much like the Germans!). I got mocked mercilessly for that by my British neighbours.

I, personally, don't so much as mock accents as seem fascinated by them. I'm curious to understand why people, sometimes, from the same geographical area speak in different accents. It is interesting for me to be able to tell from various sl*gs a person uses, his exact town, for instance.

(Making this BB relevant 😉), I cannot stand Pratyusha's accent but clearly her accent is typical of a large population of India, but I don't have a problem with the Indian accent. So, many a time, as is the case with Prat, I probably just don't like the tone and pitch of the voice in that particular accent.

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