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Nice analysis 😊 Bas ek complaint salman ne khulle mein gautam ki bashing karni chahiye thi.. thats it 😊😊😊

Originally posted by: hppp

I don't see why should Gautam have to explain his equation with Diandra to the world.
If their understanding was to call whatever they had as "friendship", and Diandra isn't even denying that---why is it anyone else's problem?

Why do we want to give our own labels, designs, decorated with confessions in a grown up man and woman relationship.

They are educated adults who know what they are getting into. Why are we looking fr issues until there actually ARE issues?

The ONLY concern Diandra has expressed with Gautam's retraction is that--how will they deal with the next set of questions. Even on the partyy day, the only thing she was pleased with, was the news of public approval of her standing up against Pritam in response to his accusing Gautam.

Who knows behind close doors they were simply planning about having some fun and TRP through a portrayal of showmance??? And now Diandra is not verbally supporting Gautam as she doesn't want to appear "fake" through an admittance of showmance. It's not necessary, but it still is a possibility. But atleast, she isn't miffed with him. And her silence is not because she is Saint Theresa...but probably her truth isn't too graceful to admit!

I strongly denounce the idea of everyone's resolute to put Gauatm down without knowing what was the whole thing about. Is it not enough that neither of them has issues with each other...or they are ok with the term"Friendship"? Who are we to plan marriage and kids for them?

I also have always said, who are we to label any of it. I always thought it was like friends with benefits. And nobody should judge that, because it was an understood thing between them. Whatever they did in the bathroom, even if it was intimate, I have no issues with.

Also, I don't think Diandra is any abla naari. She was the first one to say that this isn't shaadi byaah kinda stuff and people should stop expecting such long term nonsense.

My sole problem was the way Gautam behaved immaturely about it. And it wasn't about announcing that he and Diandra are just friends ( which Salman also said was fine). It was the fact that when talking to Diandra also, he shifted the entire thing on her saying tum ye hug kiss karti ho woh theek nahi lagta hai. When he is the one who asked for a kiss from her in front of Sonali. He was the one who went ahead and told her " he would kiss her when she was wearing the salwar kameez". He has time and again saamne se hugged her in the mornings after waking up and he gave her a peck on the cheek on his own first before the party guests arrive.

So why make it sound like she was the one pulling you into forceful hugs and kisses onscreen? You were equally a part of it. I would have much appreciated if he didn't pull this immature bitch move and instead told her in clear terms that we know what our equation is and I don't believe that what's being shown on TV will work for my family or yours outside and we are friends, so let's keep it that way.

Instead he said, main dost hoon dost rahoonga, but tumhara ko open nature hai, ye hug kiss karna, ye acha nahi lagta hai.

I am sorry, but if I were Diandra, I would have given him a good sounding for being such a douche about making me look like a nymphomaniac or something.

There is no judging what they did or what they had. It is judging him telling her that her kissing and hugging is the problem and not simply admitting that whatever THEY did together was not cool with his parents and he didn't want this to be unnecessarily labeled as a relationship since it's not one. It's as simple as That. Be a man about it, not a silly child who could not deal with criticism from outside.

Wow nicely analyzed and very balanced take.

And dat has been Salman's problem...he is never proportional and balanced in dealing with housemates. Whom he likes he says a sentence or 2 or rebukes them gently by hinting things and lets d matter pass by, but the ones with whom he tales a dislike, even their smallest mistakes r magnified and highlighted and Slaman goes on and on and on!

Originally posted by: pp29

I also have always said, who are we to label any of it. I always thought it was like friends with benefits. And nobody should judge that, because it was an understood thing between them. Whatever they did in the bathroom, even if it was intimate, I have no issues with.

Also, I don't think Diandra is any abla naari. She was the first one to say that this isn't shaadi byaah kinda stuff and people should stop expecting such long term nonsense.

My sole problem was the way Gautam behaved immaturely about it. And it wasn't about announcing that he and Diandra are just friends ( which Salman also said was fine). It was the fact that when talking to Diandra also, he shifted the entire thing on her saying tum ye hug kiss karti ho woh theek nahi lagta hai. When he is the one who asked for a kiss from her in front of Sonali. He was the one who went ahead and told her " he would kiss her when she was wearing the salwar kameez". He has time and again saamne se hugged her in the mornings after waking up and he gave her a peck on the cheek on his own first before the party guests arrive.

So why make it sound like she was the one pulling you into forceful hugs and kisses onscreen? You were equally a part of it. I would have much appreciated if he didn't pull this immature bitch move and instead told her in clear terms that we know what our equation is and I don't believe that what's being shown on TV will work for my family or yours outside and we are friends, so let's keep it that way.

Instead he said, main dost hoon dost rahoonga, but tumhara ko open nature hai, ye hug kiss karna, ye acha nahi lagta hai.

I am sorry, but if I were Diandra, I would have given him a good sounding for being such a douche about making me look like a nymphomaniac or something.

There is no judging what they did or what they had. It is judging him telling her that her kissing and hugging is the problem and not simply admitting that whatever THEY did together was not cool with his parents and he didn't want this to be unnecessarily labeled as a relationship since it's not one. It's as simple as That. Be a man about it, not a silly child who could not deal with criticism from outside.

Again well said! 👏 And copy/ pasting what I had posted in d Gaatam-Diandra issue:

Those defending Gauatam r saying tht he never said it was love... He always said dey were friends... It was Daindra who initiated it all... Bla bla bla...whatever!

But tht's all besides the point. The point is dat Gautam is not man enough (nd I don't mean in terms of gender) to accept responsibility for his actions and worse still changing his ways coz he comes to know dat his actions r not looking good for him!

Originally posted by: nadalfan8989

I disagree, Most of the blame for physical intimacy should be placed in Diandra.

I can say a lot about a guy, but i feel a women before getting physical intimate with someone, if she wants a relationship, she should have said that.

GG never promised her anything. She said it was "Time pass".

Also i heard Diandra is only upset that her Boy friend got married.

Diandra is not upset with Gautam, that's for sure since she has been upset over her ex getting married.

THAT does not mean what Gautam did was fine. Diandra never wanted a relationship and before Gautam could even deny it, she had told Pritam and Praneet to back off as this wasn't a shaadi byaah relationship matter for her and she had made it amply clear that whatever it is, they know what their equation is and nobody needs to be a part of that discussion.

What Gautam did, is tell Puneet and Dimpy that he didn't do anything. It was Diandra who took him to the bathroom. Why you are a 5 year old who can be dragged anywhere?

He told Diandra " tumhari kissing hugging achi nahi lagti hai" when he was asking for morning kisses from her in front of Sonali, he hugs her every morning, he kissed her on the cheek at the party befroe the guests arrived. You can even watch that part of teh episode if you like.

So then why shift full blame on her for the physical aspect of their equation? You may deny it to the world, but you are telling off the girl for something you are equally part of? That was in my humble opinion the douchest thing to do. And this blaming the girl as she should keep in mind her woman values and blah blah reminds me of the idea that women who dress provocatively call for being raped. So I don't adhere to that kind of BS.

Gautam wasn't being molested. He was equally enjoying whatever physical intimacy was being shared. And when it came time to be mature about handling the situation, he quickly acted like some innocent victim. While Diandra stood up for him when he was questioned in the last WKW about his fake romance with her. When it came to standing up for her, he as conveniently put blame on her and shot off with his punz papa. Rubbish

Originally posted by: pp29

I also have always said, who are we to label any of it. I always thought it was like friends with benefits. And nobody should judge that, because it was an understood thing between them. Whatever they did in the bathroom, even if it was intimate, I have no issues with.

Also, I don't think Diandra is any abla naari. She was the first one to say that this isn't shaadi byaah kinda stuff and people should stop expecting such long term nonsense.

My sole problem was the way Gautam behaved immaturely about it. And it wasn't about announcing that he and Diandra are just friends ( which Salman also said was fine). It was the fact that when talking to Diandra also, he shifted the entire thing on her saying tum ye hug kiss karti ho woh theek nahi lagta hai. When he is the one who asked for a kiss from her in front of Sonali. He was the one who went ahead and told her " he would kiss her when she was wearing the salwar kameez". He has time and again saamne se hugged her in the mornings after waking up and he gave her a peck on the cheek on his own first before the party guests arrive.

So why make it sound like she was the one pulling you into forceful hugs and kisses onscreen? You were equally a part of it. I would have much appreciated if he didn't pull this immature bitch move and instead told her in clear terms that we know what our equation is and I don't believe that what's being shown on TV will work for my family or yours outside and we are friends, so let's keep it that way.

Instead he said, main dost hoon dost rahoonga, but tumhara ko open nature hai, ye hug kiss karna, ye acha nahi lagta hai.

I am sorry, but if I were Diandra, I would have given him a good sounding for being such a douche about making me look like a nymphomaniac or something.

There is no judging what they did or what they had. It is judging him telling her that her kissing and hugging is the problem and not simply admitting that whatever THEY did together was not cool with his parents and he didn't want this to be unnecessarily labeled as a relationship since it's not one. It's as simple as That. Be a man about it, not a silly child who could not deal with criticism from outside.

I'd agree. But at the same time I'd not read too much into that one sentence he said. I mean ...he might have said it abruptly with an intention of letting her know that the showmance had to be stopped from her side too.

Maybe it is just my perspective...but I didn't see the blaming part at all. I just saw that he had panicked and wanted the whole thing to come to a clear end--and being his usual bratty self, who likes to be the one to dictate rules to others...he was just giving her orders on how she should be proceeding from then onwards...without realizing how his own part was coming across to the audience.

I mean I just didn't see either of them blaming each other at all for anything. They weren't at any point in the mode of "I am innocent ..you are not". His intent was not about shifting responsibility of the entire act to her. To me he was more like acting as the boss playing out to her... "This has to be over and I am giving you instructions on how to proceed." kind of a role. His manner was more of a "commander" mode...and not that of an "evader acting innocent".

When people's objective is to throw blames on others, they have a different conversational style. They are defensive and not looking for mutually agreeable solutions. But contrastingly, his conversational style was more like "we have a problem...this is the solution, you must act on it (I ofcourse need no directions from you...I am God 😛) " !

Originally posted by: hppp

I'd agree. But at the same time I'd not read too much into that one sentence he said. I mean ...he might have said it abruptly with an intention of letting her know that the showmance had to be stopped from her side too.

Maybe it is just my perspective...but I didn't see the blaming part at all. I just saw that he had panicked and wanted the whole thing to come to a clear end--and being his usual bratty self, who likes to be the one to dictate rules to others...he was just giving her orders on how she should be proceeding from then onwards...without realizing how his own part was coming across to the audience.

I mean I just didn't see either of them blaming each other at all for anything. They weren't at any point in the mode of "I am innocent ..you are not"...I believe his intent was not about shifting to her. To me he was more like acting as the boss with his intent being "This has to be over and I am giving you instructions on how to proceed." kind of a thing. I mean he was more like giving orders than acting innocent.

See, I agree with you because Gautam is pretty young and time and again proved that he is immature as well, which comes with the age and not being exposed to certain situations and things in life, like Puneet and co were discussing when he got affected by the snake in the house rumor.

My point is, if you are adult enough to go into the washroom with a girl, and have her stand next to you arm in arm and tell people on WKW that it is not fake whatever they have and that nobody needs to question their equation, then you have to be adult enough to NOT malign a woman on TV like she is the sole culprit and a nymphomaniac.

Maybe he didn't mean to make it sound like he was blaming her, but he did tell Puneet and Dimpy that SHE took me to the bathroom, maine kuch nahi kiya. Then next day again he tells Diandra, tumhara open nature ye hug kiss karne ka acha nahi lagta".

If he was so affected by what they showed on TV, the kind of ideas that people got about them, the way his mom felt about it, then he should keep in mind that even her reputation is at stake here. And by making her sound like a needy person, makes her look bad on national TV and for her family too. If you both were complicit, then don't just try to salvage your repuatation, keep in mind she has hers too and you putting the blame on her, makes her look like a cradle snatcher ( for lack of a better word). THAT was my sole problem with his dealing on the matter.

But I will say that I am glad he accepted his folly in front of Salman instead of arguing and taking the matter further and tarnishing the reputations even more. I will give him that for sure.

Originally posted by: pp29

See, I agree with you because Gautam is pretty young and time and again proved that he is immature as well, which comes with the age and not being exposed to certain situations and things in life, like Puneet and co were discussing when he got affected by the snake in the house rumor.

My point is, if you are adult enough to go into the washroom with a girl, and have her stand next to you arm in arm and tell people on WKW that it is not fake whatever they have and that nobody needs to question their equation, then you have to be adult enough to NOT malign a woman on TV like she is the sole culprit and a nymphomaniac.

Maybe he didn't mean to make it sound like he was blaming her, but he did tell Puneet and Dimpy that SHE took me to the bathroom, maine kuch nahi kiya. Then next day again he tells Diandra, tumhara open nature ye hug kiss karne ka acha nahi lagta".

If he was so affected by what they showed on TV, the kind of ideas that people got about them, the way his mom felt about it, then he should keep in mind that even her reputation is at stake here. And by making her sound like a needy person, makes her look bad on national TV and for her family too. If you both were complicit, then don't just try to salvage your repuatation, keep in mind she has hers too and you putting the blame on her, makes her look like a cradle snatcher ( for lack of a better word). THAT was my sole problem with his dealing on the matter.

But I will say that I am glad he accepted his folly in front of Salman instead of arguing and taking the matter further and tarnishing the reputations even more. I will give him that for sure.

For the italicized part--when he said "maine kuchh nahi kiya"...and Puneet asked him you mean she did it...he clarified that "maine kuchh nahi kiya=kuchh sex related nahi kiya. She wanted to have a conversation in the bathroom"

If he is saying that...I don't think he is making her look like a nymphomaniac. All the time he was trying to say that--there was nothing going on between them. But no one would believe him any more.

In fact he didn't put the blame on her even once...all the time he was just trying to say that there was nothing between them, and no one would believe it...but probably that's the truth.

Originally posted by: pp29

But I will say that I am glad he accepted his folly in front of Salman instead of arguing and taking the matter further and tarnishing the reputations even more. I will give him that for sure.

I think the only thing he admitted was ..he didn't say it right.

He probably didn't do anything with her---coz if you look at the showmance objectively...it looks very cooked up. And when he tried to say the truth that they didn't do anything----no one believed him...and it backfired more. His denial looked like he was running away or something.

I mean he didn't even say once that she did it...and that he was innocent and she was not ! All the time the poor guy was insisting that they together didn't do anything and everyone got worked up at only him.😆