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Posted: 10 years ago
#11
arya does a mistake and says sorry.
when gautam made a mistake and said sorry a hundred times, arya and his lot said that his sorry didnt come from the heart.

arya ki sorry , sorry

aur gautam ki sorry, sorry he nahi.

arya is only getting a tast of his own medicine, so let him take it and learn something if he has the brains to
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsptl

So according to your 4th point and what Salman said: Child labor is OK in India as children will be respecting elder when they ask them to work and they have no right to oppose whether they beat them.


If this happened out side India, Puneet would have been REAL in jail.





respecting elders is our family and social values. and should be instilled in every child. there are no two ways about it.
salman never said anything about accepting a criminal offence committed by elders, a child is not suppose to show respect to criminals but everybody should oppose it. child labor is a social issue, and has nothing to do with big Boss.

Puneet is not a criminal and arya is not a 8 year old child.

there are no similarities between the incident in BB house and child labour. so don't compare them. thats silly and juvenile but ist ok if you are 16 years. your scope of experience in limited and so is your cognitive analysis and capability
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: merrydock

respecting elders is our family and social values. and should be instilled in every child. there are no two ways about it.

salman never said anything about accepting a criminal offence committed by elders, a child is not suppose to show respect to criminals but everybody should oppose it. child labor is a social issue, and has nothing to do with big Boss.

Puneet is not a criminal and arya is not a 8 year old child.

there are no similarities between the incident in BB house and child labour. so don't compare them. thats silly and juvenile but ist ok if you are 16 years. your scope of experience in limited and so is your cognitive analysis and capability


I am not comparing them, I am just giving an example. BB and Salman setting wrong example for the viewer and whatever senior does, do not argue and respect them.

Big Boss is a non-fictional reality show so it is a social platform to portray any message.

Once again, if Puneet did this US/UK really show, regardless of his age and status he would have been thrown out and in JAIL and would have proven guilty in court thus a criminal in eyes of court. (speaking as experienced US lawyer)

And there was no need to go personal on me, but if you are immature 10 year will not get this. So enjoy your childhood.


Edited by dsptl - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Didn't Salman brough the issue of Puneet hurting AB during WKW first ? 🤔
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Posted: 10 years ago
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If you see most the abuses directed to Puneet has always the common word "Buddha"
Basically it is the age discrimination that is working against him.

India is a dividied country, discrimantion is there at every sphere of social life and age discrimination is another flavour,

Majority of people hate Puneet just becaus he is old.

Such a pity.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyams

Didn't Salman brough the issue of Puneet hurting AB during WKW first ? 🤔


Exactly, no-one dared to utter a word then why now same thing repeated by Arya, even though Arya did not took a name and Salman did.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsptl

So according to your 4th point and what Salman said: Child labor is OK in India as children will be respecting elder when they ask them to work and they have no right to oppose whether they beat them.


If this happened out side India, Puneet would have been REAL in jail.


Why did you stop at this? Let me take this bit further. Similarly child sex abuse is ok because when elder people will abuse, kids have no right to oppose?

Right? that is even better is not it?

I applaud your logical mind.. Can i get a little bit of your grey cell please?

Wont it be a good idea to think for a while before typing any junk next time?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So Person A is allowed to physically attack B, talk about his personal life, demean his profession, try to create a rift between him and his friends and B should just thank you Sir A, because you're older?

Makes a lot of sense.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: silverbug

A couple of points that I want to raise in defence of Puneet:

1. Arya Babbar seems to have a knack for bringing in personal issues. Even Preetam, Praneet were saying he's crazy and getting personal now. Agreed. Arya shouldn't have gotten personal, whoever it was in front of him. Even Upen and the others agreed with this.

2. As far as Puneet bringing up the romance issue, Arya/Minisha themselves exposed their dirty laundry in front of everyone. What's the big deal ? When that incident happened, Puneet was the one to tell Arya that the stuff he said shouldn't have been said to begin with! Yet time & again, after the rest have forgotten it, its Puneet who keeps bringing it up.
I don't even get why it bothers him. Even if Arya & Minisha planned to get a romantic angle, so what?! Would it directly harm someone else in the house? Is it currently bothering Puneet in any way? NO.
And lets face it, who doesnt try to plan their BiggBoss journey before they enter the house? It doesn't ever go as per plan, but everyone comes in with some kind of idea about how they're going to conduct themselves in the house, and it really is their own choice and shouldn't be judged for it.

3. Bringing up AB's name on screen when he has nothing to do with the show. Why did he do it ? How dumb is it to bring up a 30 year old issue that's dead and buried ? AB could sue him just for this. Agreed. I don't know about the suing part, but yes, that topic needn't have been brought up.


4. Not to sound repetitive, but he was completely disrespectful to someone his father's age. Like Salman said, Puneet has the right to be disrespectful. This is the culture of subcontinent - we respect elders. Rest assured public will give the right verdict. Take it or leave it but what Salman said is 100% accurate. Let's not forget this is supposed to be a family show, it sets a bad precedence.
I commented this somewhere else too.. I know what the culture states and that we should respect our elders. But respect should be earned. It should be commanded, & not demanded. Arya was very respectful of Puneet for a long long time. Now that went down the drain, yes, but with good reason, imo.
Basically, if Arya kept mum when everyone was calling him 'jhoota', people would have still said that he doesn't take a stand.
There's no pleasing everyone. Whatever he does, someone will have a problem with it (and this applies to everyone in the house). 😛

5. I've an inkling that Arya did the whole physical violence natak thing on purpose. He knows that unfortunately Puneet has a reputation for being an unsafe worker because of that one unfortunate incident. Personally, I do not agree that he is unsafe because he did a lot of physical things in many movies + full on fights in Mahabharat. His work was praised and nobody called him unsafe. But Arya successfully capitalized on that reputation and caused Puneet eviction. When in reality, if Gautam had whined and whinged as much about Arya and Ali twisting his neck and hand badly, it would have obviously resulted in their evictions. Also, the proof is on camera that Ali and Arya were proudly expressing their intent behind what they did. Same thing with Sonali and Diandra.

Okay, for the record, I don't think Arya was acting. But even if for a second we believe that.. Does someone have to get physically injured for it to be proven that someone else was physically violent? Are we to wait for a point where someone is hurt to such an extent? Is it really not violence if someone has aggressively held someone's throat in (in Puneet's own words) a Martial art's position?
In my opinion, the line should have been drawn there. Call it Arya's stategy or whatever, but Puneet was wrong, fact remains.
In Gautam & Upen's task, they were SUPPOSED to loosen Gautam's grip by force. And so they did. Puneet could have too, easily. But his conscience suddenly woke up, I guess.. Idk.
And Diandra was rightly punished. She held that bucket and spun it (and Sonali along with it) around. She hadn't held Sonali's neck. 😛 (Thank God)

6. This guy Arya's passive aggressive behavior is weird. Nobody knows who the real Arya is. Is it the guy who is all peaceful, tries to act like the 'big brother', respects his elders or is it the guy who bangs the (open lol) door, exposes a woman's dirty laundry and uses expletives for his elders ?
You notice one night where he was disrespectful, and forget 7 weeks of respect? 😳 Arya may not be able to take stands, or argue for himself, or etc etc, whatever complaints people have with him. But he was damn right respectful. I can't emphasize enough how much I admire the way he handled the 'hinsa' situation.

7. Also, Puneet was being all politically correct in the beginning but now that he is being very open about things. Why are people hating on him for that ? When he was politically correct, they hated him. Now he is open, they still hate him.
If by they, you mean the housemates, then obviously no ones going to like it when you say degrading things about them. This one is a no-brainer. 😛


Hope that made sense! 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I'm getting so sick of this. How can you people say that puneet can do such things because he is a certain age? OH MY GOD! Are you for real? Respecting someone who is clearly the worst person in the house just because he's elder??? Why? These are NOT our cultural values. I would be ashamed of my father if he was like puneet, and I would point it out to him. And PLEASE he chose to come to this show, so he is like every contestant there so stop with all this respect him crap. He deserves as much respect as everyone else in the house.
Getting personal part? He kept getting personal about minisha issue, he nominated them for that like W*F??? Bigg boss knows that they broke the rules, and BB chose to do nothing about it, why is it bothering him then? How did minisha-arya planning affect punit? It did not, still he never left that topic. As you sow, so shall you reap. ;)

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