Discussion thread - Week of 5/9/2011 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Wafah

I can move it in here...??

Originally posted by: gardes

Rani, I read your post. I wrote elsewhere that Runjhun mentions Abhi matter-of-factly but to Guddu, who does not know what transpired with Abhi (I am guessing), Abhi is a wrong name to him in that moment. It casts doubts for him. I am all smiles that the past is in their faces. It is so needed to be resolved.

Agree with all else you wrote.

Originally posted by: gardes

I loved today's episode...

Highlights:

I felt that Guddu appeared scared and conflicted about what is happening to him.

Runjhun started to depend on him so easily and expressing her emotions and inner turmiol - like crying, feeling hurt.

Runjhun made a mistake of mentioning Abhigyan in front of Guddu, who is losing his equilibrium and he was jolted back to reality.

Both their emotions are so well portrayed and edited, I was ecstatic.

Ok, so here I go... my Master's thesis...

In the past few weeks, Guddu has become comfortable and complacent in his exixtence. Runjhun has cajoled, cuddled and pushed him and because of the way he is starting to see Runjhun he has gone along with it, slowly and steadily. It made sense in his current situation. His once formed hatred changed to revenge, changed to need ($ for his Amma) and he, without thinking of consequences jumped into a marriage that he knew nothing about. He HATED Runjhun and now he is seeing a side of her that leaves him awestruck, in a way. There is a new respect for her, a certain camaraderie as well. At one point before his marriage, in his revenge mode, he mentions to his buddies that he does not understand how Runjhun does not react and is so stoic. Now he is starting to see her in a totally different light and in the process he has unwittingly subjected himself to introspection. He is changing..

Guddu has known a certain life until now, where he is boss. When things got difficult for Jabbo, Jabbo in his selfishness used choice words to descibe the changes in Guddu. Jabbo in a way brought him back to reality as Guddu knew it just a few days ago. Guddu does not give in to anyone. So with the challenge back on the front burner, Guddu is contemplative. He has feelings but he has self-preservation at his fingertips.

The conflict seen today is that he is resurrecting the old Guddu, but Runjhun has not disappeared yet - she is very much a presence in his life. He knows her better and each time she is an underdog, his personality comes into action and he jumps up to "save" her. He would do it for others - did it for Mahadevi too, knowing what Jabbo is all about! But he is also not aware overtly that he has developed feelings for Runjhun - feelings he does not know or understand. They are not like the love for his mother. These feelings are coming from his "haq" (rights) as her husband - shouting Dharampatni, Runjhun SHUKLA! He is attracted to her, he is willing to shield her from evil. What are these feelings?

Then Runjhun mentions Abhigyan. He is introspective on 2 fronts that he never considered Runjhun's feelings when he married her or broke up her engagement to Abhigyan. Instrospection kicks in. What will the outcome be? He is confused and will act out until he reaches a conclusion of what he really wants - the life as he knew it or the life he has entered into with Runjhun, willingly, I might add.

Runjhun craves love and acceptance and only knows duty. Runjhun is very malleable because that has been her existence. She is doing her part as Guddu's wife as expected by Amma. In the process she cared for him, understood him, and wanted to gentrify him so that he is not known as the topmost goon of Kannauj.

Today she was REALLY needy and who do you think she went to? Guddu of course, and not Amma, because she knew he can act and get results. He would understand where she is coming from. She DEPENDS on him. She does not realize overtly either that her feelings are changing for him. She was reminded about her existence by Mahadevi just like Jabbo did for Guddu.

She is hurt today and who does she seek solace from? The one person she has settled into life comfortably and complacently with - Guddu - and he does not disappoint her. He rolls up his sleeve and says who and I will "take care" of that person. When she mentions Abhigyan, she is not mentioning him in a forlorn or wistful sort of way. She says it matter-of-factly. Little does she know that Guddu HAS changed and he ignored it once yesterday but mentioned again today, he will need to evaluate and assess all this in his current state of mind. (We the viewers know all this but the characters don't.)

Both Guddu and Runjhun fell into a situation and tried to make the most of it - challenge or not. But neither of them dealt with the terrible past that brought them to this juncture. It was too traumatic for Runjhun and Guddu was hell-bent on getting his revenge. Neither ever verbalized until now. I would be terribly disappointed with the CVs if they did not bring this up. My hats off to them for bringing in the parallels - Jabbo and Mahadevi - to explain away the conflicts.

CVs, please continue doing what you do best - tell us a story in your own way. I have no beef at all! I loved today's episode.

Please give me your thoughts. I will not be hurt if you say I am wrong in any of this. I am one of Bee's "Newcomers". Please share...

Originally posted by: Wafah

Especially considering the scenes he remembered the most...He doesn't know about Abhi asking for the medical test (he'd left by then) but the scenes that seem to stick in his memory...is the first that Abhigyaan calls Runjhun his to-be dharampatni...considering how Guddu uses the term dharampatni...and Abhigyaan stepping in when he'd thought he brought Runjhun down. Then he remembers Abhigyaan touching Runjhun when she's bleeding (😆 I know me and my touches...) We know how touches were important for them and have gradually eased in...the next time when Abhigyaan tells Guddu that Runjhun and he are one, and that he will be her shield he will be the one to protect her. Then when he sold/auctioned Runjhun's items.

This scene seems to play in his mind the most...I think what happened between Runjhun was the elephant of their past in the room present subconsciously even thought they were getting more comfortable and with Mahadevi and Jabbo, their insecurities are being brought forefront.

Even Runjhun when Abhigyaan was mentioned by Mahdevi seemed a little bothered to me.

Originally posted by: gardes

OMG, I just watched the aired version and the best scene today for me was the part where Guddu is shown getting dressed in his gunda-like pre-wedding clothes and he is talking himself into not falling for Runjhun and her sweet-talk. And Lo Ji, here is Runjhun, sobbing, closing the door and entering the room. Guddu does a slow motion and looks at her sobbing away and he melts faster than butter in a frying pan!

I was doubling up with laughter. In all the seriousness of the episode where the elephant in the room is now being made visible, there was so much drama, and yet plenty of humor.

For some reason, I seem to get it best when I watch the aired version.

Originally posted by: gardes

OMG, I just watched the aired version and the best scene today for me was the part where Guddu is shown getting dressed in his gunda-like pre-wedding clothes and he is talking himself into not falling for Runjhun and her sweet-talk. And Lo Ji, here is Runjhun, sobbing, closing the door and entering the room. Guddu does a slow motion and looks at her sobbing away and he melts faster than butter in a frying pan!

I was doubling up with laughter. In all the seriousness of the episode where the elephant in the room is now being made visible, there was so much drama, and yet plenty of humor.

For some reason, I seem to get it best when I watch the aired version.